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Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1152 on: July 30, 2020, 07:29:09 PM »
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That's good news, Mr. Scully.
This Flynn case just won't go away. Even despite Barr's best efforts.

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Offline Tom Scully

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1153 on: July 30, 2020, 07:47:48 PM »
That's good news, Mr. Scully.
This Flynn case just won't go away. Even despite Barr's best efforts.

I heard yesterday that William Barr is worth $20 million +. If he has any sense, he'll resign before the Aug. 11 hearing and leave the U.S. The majority of this appeals court are not Trumpkins like Judge Rao. Nothing that Judge Sullivan had already ruled on was submitted in the Barr engineered, 108 page pleading Barr's stooge submitted to Judge Sullivan's court arguing Flynn should no longer even face charges due to imaginary prosecutorial "misconduct" no one is actually being held accountable for, because it did not happen.

Barr acted at the direction of a letter sent to him by Flynn's "attorney" Sidney Powell, and not on the evidence or on any legal basis.

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HJC SHOULD ASK BILL BARR WHY IT WOULD DO IRREPARABLE HARM IF HE HAD TO EXPLAIN HIS ACTIONS IN THE FLYNN CASE
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DOJ has argued that DOJ would face irreparable harm if they had to explain their actions in the Mike Flynn case under oath. Which is reason enough that HJC should focus on that question when Bill Barr comes to testify tomorrow.
.....One thing that should be included, however, is the letter that Sidney Powell sent Barr and Jeffrey Rosen in June 2019 and Bill Barr’s actions to deliver on her demands in the subsequent year, actions that DOJ itself admits would do irreparable harm if DOJ had to explain.

The letter was effectively a road map of demands, many of them based off hoaxes, almost all of them unrelated to Flynn’s prosecution or false. It later became the Brady demand that Judge Emmet Sullivan rejected in a meticulous opinion last December. In it, Powell demanded that DOJ conduct a review of the prosecution and then dismiss the prosecution......

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FULL DC CIRCUIT SHIFTS MIKE FLYNN ANALYSIS BACK TO WHAT IT SHOULD BE: UNUSUAL REMEDY
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The full DC Circuit is going to re-hear Mike Flynn's petition for a writ of mandamus, this time reviewing what they should have reviewed the first time, whether Flynn has any remedy other than a writ. (He does.)

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1154 on: July 30, 2020, 10:15:05 PM »
Fox News host speculates Trump ‘won’t leave the White House’ if he loses: ‘Is he setting up something?’

David Edwards

Fox Business host Neil Cavuto speculated on Thursday that President Donald Trump might refuse to peacefully leave the White House if he loses in November.

After Trump tweeted a suggestion about “delaying” the election, Cavuto asked Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) if the president is “setting up something.”

“So you don’t think he’s setting up something if he were to lose,” Cavuto asked, “that he’s going to claim that it was rigged and he just won’t leave the White House — crazy glue his hands to the Oval Office doors?”

Blackburn answered by accusing Hillary Clinton of refusing to accept the results of the 2016 election.

“So, if the president were to lose,” Cavuto pressed, “let’s say, by a fairly comfortable margin — he might not like that — do you think he would say, ‘Alright, that’s it, I’m outta here?'”

“I think Donald Trump is going to win,” Blackburn insisted.

“I understand that,” Cavuto interrupted. “In your heart of hearts, do you think if he were — if he were to lose that he would try to come up with a reason not to leave?”

“He has always honored the will of the American people,” Blackburn replied.

“Because if they tried to push me out of here, Senator,” Cavuto noted, “I would just continue doing shows. Because I would not leave.”

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1156 on: July 31, 2020, 12:32:09 AM »
The man is utter trash.

Trump calls reporters to the White House for surprise event as Obama delivers eulogy for John Lewis

Eric W. Dolan

President Donald Trump on Thursday called reporters into the White House for an event with the family of slain Fort Hood soldier Vanessa Guillen.

The press availability, which was not previously on the president’s schedule, coincided with former President Barack Obama delivering an eulogy at the funeral service of John Lewis.


“We didn’t want to have this swept under the rug, which could happen,” Trump told Guillén’s family during the Oval Office meeting.

Some political observers viewed Trump’s actions as as an attempt to “one-up” Obama or distract from his speech.




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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1157 on: July 31, 2020, 12:38:29 AM »
Donald Trump kill and destroys anything he comes into contact with. Latest example, Herman Cain at his Tulsa rally.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1158 on: July 31, 2020, 01:46:26 AM »
Donald Trump kill and destroys anything he comes into contact with. Latest example, Herman Cain at his Tulsa rally.

Last month Herman Cain was laughing at Donald Trump's Tulsa Death Rally mocking masks and attacking "liberals" for wearing them. I posted a picture of him sitting jammed together with a group of people. I said he was going to get sick. Sure enough he did. If he wore a mask and stayed home, he would be alive right now. Instead he got to see Donald Trump rant like a loon, slurring his words, pretending to walk down a ramp, and drink a glass of water. What a way to go.     

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1159 on: July 31, 2020, 02:34:52 AM »
More than half of Americans polled say they will definitely vote to oust Donald Trump from office, and they are definitively not open to changing course.
Fully 53% of respondents in the latest Civiqs survey released Thursday said they "oppose President Trump, and there's almost nothing that could change that." Surpassing the 50% threshold on that question is a key marker since it gives Trump little wiggle room in his path to reelection in the Electoral College. Once more, those definitely opposing Trump’s reelection outpaced those definitely supporting him by 19 points.

Here’s the breakdown:

Support Trump, won't change: 34%
Support Trump, could change later: 8%
Neither support nor oppose Trump: 2%
Oppose Trump, could change later: 3%
Oppose Trump, won't change: 53%
Unsure: 1%

Taken together, 56% oppose Trump's reelection and 42% support it, but those opposed are much more fervent about their intentions.

Other key findings:

63% of respondents remain very/moderately concerned about a local coronavirus outbreak, just 21% aren't concerned at all.

64% say they're not very satisfied/not satisfied at all with the federal pandemic response, with just

34% saying they're mostly/completely satisfied.
Respondents are almost evenly split on their state's coronavirus response, with 49% saying they're mostly/completely satisfied and 50% saying they're not very satisfied/not satisfied at all.

On schools, a solid 60% majority express concern and discomfort with reopenings:

Very uncomfortable: 45%
Somewhat uncomfortable: 15%
Somewhat comfortable: 13%
Very comfortable: 23%
Unsure: 3%

On mask wearing, only 11% of respondents say they never wear a mask; 88% say they wear a mask in public all or some of the time, with 56% saying they do so whenever they leave the house and another 33% saying it depends on what they're doing.

The vaccine question was concerning, with just 45% of respondents saying they plan to take it if it becomes available.

Yes: 45%
No: 28%
Unsure: 27%

But here's the party breakdown of the 27% of respondents who said they were unsure:

Democrat: 30%
Independent: 28%
Republican: 23%

Perhaps a vaccine administered by a competent Democratic administration—public servants who actually believe in the government helping people—will be able to win over some of those unsure Democrats and independents, and maybe even some Republicans.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1159 on: July 31, 2020, 02:34:52 AM »