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Offline Tom Scully

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1304 on: August 09, 2020, 09:11:12 AM »
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Are you really stupid enough to believe that Trump’s false rhetoric is factual? You trust the guy with 20,000 documented false or misleading statements?

Actually John, it was 20,000 lies by July 9, plus an average of 23 each day for the past 440 days.

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It took President Trump 827 days to top 10,000 false and misleading claims in The Fact Checker’s database, an average of 12 claims a day.

But on July 9, just 440 days later, the president crossed the 20,000 mark — an average of 23 claims a day over a 14-month period, which included the events leading up to Trump’s impeachment trial, the worldwide pandemic that crashed the economy and the eruption of protests over the death of George Floyd in police custody.

The coronavirus pandemic has spawned a whole new genre of Trump’s falsehoods. The category in just a few months has reached nearly 1,000 claims, more than his tax claims combined....

Considering he's in hyperdrive, reinstating the fake covid-19 daily "briefings", 21,000 lies since 20, January, 2017, is likely the current tally.

Whew! Thanks for that. John, you mean Trump is not trying to buy reelection by promising to permanently defund Social Security and Medicare, a windfall only for larger employers who'll retain nearly 8 percent of payroll costs, compared to if Trump supporters voted in their own best interests, instead of in Trump's?

We're inside 90 days until election day. He'll be promising everyone a free pony, by next month. Richard, do you happen to ride, or possibly own a large freezer? "Pony meat" could come in handy if Trump and his USDA stooge, Sonny Perdue, dupe voters into keeping them in orifice.
Two years ago, he started panicking about losing the House majority and promised an immediate, imaginary 10 percent tax cut and imaginary affordable healthcare plan, all to be real, by election day!

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The president made the pledge after signing a directive postponing payroll tax payments into next year
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Nov 15, 2018 · Trump raised eyebrows in October when he suddenly began to talk about a 10 percent tax cut for the middle class that would be passed ahead of …
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Offline Paul May

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1305 on: August 09, 2020, 03:59:04 PM »



Trump walks out of news conference after reporter asks him about Veterans Choice lie he's told more than 150 times

 
By Daniel Dale
Updated 6:44 AM ET, Sun August 9, 2020

Trump shuts down briefing after he's fact-checked by reporter

Trump, speaking at his Bedminster, New Jersey, golf club, had claimed again that he is the one who got the Veterans Choice program passed -- adding, "They've been trying to get that passed for decades and decades and decades and no president's ever been able to do it, and we got it done." In fact, former President Barack Obama signed the Choice program into law in 2014. The law, which allowed eligible veterans to be covered by the government for care provided by doctors outside the VA system, was a bipartisan initiative spearheaded by two senators Trump has repeatedly criticized, Bernie Sanders of Vermont and the late John McCain of Arizona.

What Trump signed was a 2018 law, the VA MISSION Act, that modified and expanded the eligibility criteria from the Choice program. Rather than tout that bill, Trump has claimed over and over that he created Veterans Choice itself -- after others had failed for "50 years." "Why do you keep saying that you passed Veterans Choice?" CBS News White House correspondent Paula Reid asked Trump at the SaPersonay news conference, during which Trump announced executive actions on coronavirus relief.

As Trump tried to call on another reporter instead, Reid continued, "You said that you passed Veterans Choice. It was passed in 2014...it was a false statement, sir." Trump paused, then responded: "OK. Thank you very much, everybody." He then walked away as the song "YMCA" played. Trump had either never or almost never been challenged on the Veterans Choice claim before Reid did so.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1306 on: August 09, 2020, 04:03:09 PM »
Another magnificent day for Trump!  He takes decisive action to help out those Americans impacted by the virus after dems try to told those funds hostage as a means to get trillions for unrelated programs.  Wow.  That is leadership.   Any do nothing establishment politician would have caved to the pressure and allowed Congress to put trillions on the American tax payers for their pork projects.  An establishment politician like Old Joe Biden would have even been complicit standing to benefit from all the dollars that would have gone to his paymasters under the guise of helping Americans.  How about those financial disclosures from Benghazi Rice?  She did pretty well on a government salary.  Net worth around $50 million with investments in many of those energy companies that Crazy Joe wants to shutdown.  Hypocrisy and greed.  She will make a great do nothing president for the establishment when Old Joe resigns or is removed from office due to his obvious cognitive decline.

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Offline Paul May

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1307 on: August 09, 2020, 04:38:47 PM »
Another magnificent day for Trump!  He takes decisive action to help out those Americans impacted by the virus after dems try to told those funds hostage as a means to get trillions for unrelated programs.  Wow.  That is leadership.   Any do nothing establishment politician would have caved to the pressure and allowed Congress to put trillions on the American tax payers for their pork projects.  An establishment politician like Old Joe Biden would have even been complicit standing to benefit from all the dollars that would have gone to his paymasters under the guise of helping Americans.  How about those financial disclosures from Benghazi Rice?  She did pretty well on a government salary.  Net worth around $50 million with investments in many of those energy companies that Crazy Joe wants to shutdown.  Hypocrisy and greed.  She will make a great do nothing president for the establishment when Old Joe resigns or is removed from office due to his obvious cognitive decline.

A Royell Storing clone. This is entertainment! Smith is apparently unaware congress controls purse strings and NOT POTUS. Trumps SO FAR behind Biden he now is resorting to PR and more lies. 145+ times Trump has said he got Veterans Choice done when no other POTUS could do it. Yet, Vet choice became law under Obama in 2014. Daily lies like this don’t bother Smith. If Biden wins the states he’s expected to win as of TODAY, he has 334 electoral votes. Bye Donald. Bye Richard. :D

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1308 on: August 09, 2020, 05:46:50 PM »
Another magnificent day for Trump!  He takes decisive action to help out those Americans impacted by the virus after dems try to told those funds hostage as a means to get trillions for unrelated programs.  Wow.  That is leadership.   Any do nothing establishment politician would have caved to the pressure and allowed Congress to put trillions on the American tax payers for their pork projects.  An establishment politician like Old Joe Biden would have even been complicit standing to benefit from all the dollars that would have gone to his paymasters under the guise of helping Americans.  How about those financial disclosures from Benghazi Rice?  She did pretty well on a government salary.  Net worth around $50 million with investments in many of those energy companies that Crazy Joe wants to shutdown.  Hypocrisy and greed.  She will make a great do nothing president for the establishment when Old Joe resigns or is removed from office due to his obvious cognitive decline.

You really need to expand your sources of information and perhaps include some credible ones. His "decisive action" is, like Paul said, merely a (extremely badly executed) PR matter and another promise he can not keep. And you call that "leadership"  :D

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1309 on: August 09, 2020, 06:32:26 PM »
A Royell Storing clone. This is entertainment! Smith is apparently unaware congress controls purse strings and NOT POTUS. Trumps SO FAR behind Biden he now is resorting to PR and more lies. 145+ times Trump has said he got Veterans Choice done when no other POTUS could do it. Yet, Vet choice became law under Obama in 2014. Daily lies like this don’t bother Smith. If Biden wins the states he’s expected to win as of TODAY, he has 334 electoral votes. Bye Donald. Bye Richard. :D

Congress didn't act.  The dems attempted to use the suffering of the American people as a ruse to get trillions for pork projects that benefit only themselves and their paymasters.  Didn't work this time.  Trump called their bluff. That is why they hate Trump so much.  He is not part of the do nothing establishment that does what they are told.  A magnificent display of leadership.  Saving the tax payers trillions and getting help to those that need it.  I agree, though, that Old Racist Joe will probably win.  The members of the establishment need a figurehead in power.  They have controlled the political system in the US for a century or more.  If Biden dies in office, which seems likely, they will roll him around like the dead guy in Weekend at Bernie's.  No one will be able to tell the difference. It is sad that there are those who have so much hate for a politician that they actually want people to suffer economically and even die to validate their political views.  Just look at the state of America's cities that have been controlled by establishment democrats for decades.  They are a disaster.  Anyone want the mayors of Portland, Chicago, NYC in charge of the entire country?  That is Old Joe only with less cognitive ability.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1310 on: August 09, 2020, 07:05:37 PM »
Congress didn't act.  The dems attempted to use the suffering of the American people as a ruse to get trillions for pork projects that benefit only themselves and their paymasters.  Didn't work this time.  Trump called their bluff. That is why they hate Trump so much.  He is not part of the do nothing establishment that does what they are told.  A magnificent display of leadership.  Saving the tax payers trillions and getting help to those that need it.  I agree, though, that Old Racist Joe will probably win.  The members of the establishment need a figurehead in power.  They have controlled the political system in the US for a century or more.  If Biden dies in office, which seems likely, they will roll him around like the dead guy in Weekend at Bernie's.  No one will be able to tell the difference. It is sad that there are those who have so much hate for a politician that they actually want people to suffer economically and even die to validate their political views.  Just look at the state of America's cities that have been controlled by establishment democrats for decades.  They are a disaster.  Anyone want the mayors of Portland, Chicago, NYC in charge of the entire country?  That is Old Joe only with less cognitive ability.

Congress didn't act.  The dems attempted to use the suffering of the American people as a ruse to get trillions for pork projects that benefit only themselves and their paymasters.  Didn't work this time.  Trump called their bluff.

And got nowhere as his "executive action" isn't worth the paper it's written on. And it's also a massive con.... He reduces the amount from $600 to $400, on condition that the States pay the first $100. He can not force the States to do that and he hasn't got the legal power to make such a "deal".

Everything else in your post is nothing more than pathetic Republican rethoric and classic GOP scaremongering.

I agree, though, that Old Racist Joe will probably win.

If you agree with this, you must also agree that Trump simply did not deliver and isn't by all counts the worst liked President the country has ever had for nothing.

You don't even notice that Trump's actions are those of a wannabe dictator. You really must hate America to cheer on somebody who is trying to destroy it in every way he can.
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1311 on: August 09, 2020, 07:06:45 PM »
Congress didn't act.  The dems attempted to use the suffering of the American people as a ruse to get trillions for pork projects that benefit only themselves and their paymasters.  Didn't work this time.  Trump called their bluff. That is why they hate Trump so much.  He is not part of the do nothing establishment that does what they are told.  A magnificent display of leadership.  Saving the tax payers trillions and getting help to those that need it.  I agree, though, that Old Racist Joe will probably win.  The members of the establishment need a figurehead in power.  They have controlled the political system in the US for a century or more.  If Biden dies in office, which seems likely, they will roll him around like the dead guy in Weekend at Bernie's.  No one will be able to tell the difference. It is sad that there are those who have so much hate for a politician that they actually want people to suffer economically and even die to validate their political views.  Just look at the state of America's cities that have been controlled by establishment democrats for decades.  They are a disaster.  Anyone want the mayors of Portland, Chicago, NYC in charge of the entire country?  That is Old Joe only with less cognitive ability.

A broken record. Same talking points as Fox News day after day. Who is your audience?

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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