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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1800 on: September 26, 2020, 07:10:23 AM »
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So you can have an abortion or go to Walmart but can't vote or go to work, school, or church.  Got it.  The point is obvious. 

It certainly is. The point is that Strawman “Smith” also makes false equivalencies. Here’s a hint: large groups of people congregating in close proximity for long periods of time.

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You can't change the rules at the last minute in a nationwide election to impact potentially millions of votes.  That will create chaos. 

Says who? Trump? He creates chaos just by opening his mouth.

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Ballots will be challenged by both side.  Courts in different places will create different standards subject to endless appeals from both sides. 

States have always had the ability to have different rules and standards. Some states do all their voting by mail, and have been for a long time.

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This doesn't just affect Trump.  It will affect any democrat that is elected by casting doubt on the process and undermining the legitimacy of their presidency.

The only ones casting doubt are Trump and his sycophants, because they know they’re losing.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1801 on: September 26, 2020, 07:15:16 AM »
So let people vote the same way they go to the grocery store.   

 :D

You do realize that a lot of people do their shopping by mail, right?

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1802 on: September 27, 2020, 06:08:32 AM »
Sure hope that if Trump wins that some of the JFK forum members will not have a total meltdown and become stark raving lunatics , as some of them may be CT and that would fuel LN theories that CT were already mad before there ever was TDS:)

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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1803 on: September 27, 2020, 10:13:36 AM »
Sure hope that if Trump wins that some of the JFK forum members will not have a total meltdown and become stark raving lunatics , as some of them may be CT and that would fuel LN theories that CT were already mad before there ever was TDS:)

I think Paul's initial hypothesis has been soundly refuted by the various contributions by members across the JFK spectrum. I can assure you that should Trump win it will have no effect on my current view on JFK and his demise.


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1804 on: September 27, 2020, 03:53:03 PM »
You still haven't explained what changes were made or what rules were changed. Understandable because you can't. What it really comes down to is that Trump and idiots like you just don't like the existing laws.

When something is allowed by law, there are no changes. Just compliance with and application of existing law. You don't like that? Change the law... but stop whining. It's pathetic.

Is this above your head?

Btw, have you figured out why so many Republican Governors are on your list of so-called "changes"? They really must dislike Trump, don't you think?

Huh?  I knew you were a kook but this one is gold:  "When something is allowed by law, there are no changes."  HA HA HA.  So when the law is changed, there is no change because it is allowed by the law!  Wow.  No wonder you are a CTer.  That is the most tortured logic that I can ever recall this side of 1984.  And no one said that only Dems were changing the rules you dishonest fool.  The point is that in the weeks leading up to the election that the rules are being changed in a way that will affect millions of votes.  There is no universal standard for these changes. Every state that has changed the rules - repub or dem - will interpret and apply different standards potentially resulting in chaos.  And what is the definition of a repub or dem state in this context? For example, there are some states with repub governors, dem majority legislators, and biased one way or the other judicial branches.  And there is no need to create this uncertainty.  If Old Joe is so far ahead in the polls and certain of winning, then why create a situation in which the validity of the election will be disputed by this chaos?  Who will count these millions of mail in ballots?  How long will it take to count, recount, and challenge all these ballots?   Look what happened in Iowa.  Total chaos.  All of which is unnecessary.  Whoever wins - whether Old Joe or Trump - will be under a cloud due to this stupidity.
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1805 on: September 27, 2020, 04:07:25 PM »
Sure hope that if Trump wins that some of the JFK forum members will not have a total meltdown and become stark raving lunatics , as some of them may be CT and that would fuel LN theories that CT were already mad before there ever was TDS:)

It's way too late for that.  LOL.  If Hiden wins a fair election, I wish him all the best.  Any American citizen should at least hope that whomever becomes the President does a great job because we all benefit.  I would never hope that Hiden fails simply because I have a different political philosophy. I thought Obama was a decent and intelligent person.  Just someone who couldn't get much done and what little he did get done, I disagreed with.  But I never hated him or filled my days ranting that he was the devil like some type of mental case because he had different views.  The Trump haters, however, have a kamikaze mentality.  Their sole objective is his destruction. They hope everything goes to hell because it lends support to their hate filled beliefs.  If people die because of the virus, all the better in their opinion.  They can blame Trump.  If they insist the economy be shutdown for months, and then Trump does that, then blame Trump for the unemployment and economic harm.  btw: how many dems are calling for a shutdown now if it was so effective?  The virus is still around.  How about no one.  It was a failure that actually caused more harm than good and no one would repeat that strategy.  Even the dems realize that was a disaster.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1806 on: September 27, 2020, 04:17:42 PM »
It's way too late for that.  LOL.  If Hiden wins a fair election, I wish him all the best.  Any American citizen should at least hope that whomever becomes the President does a great job because we all benefit.  I would never hope that Hiden fails simply because I have a different political philosophy. I thought Obama was a decent and intelligent person.  Just someone who couldn't get much done and what little he did get done, I disagreed with.
He couldn't get much done as he was up against Congress and the Senate. Wait until November when the Dems have a triumvirate.

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  But I never hated him or filled my days ranting that he was the devil like some type of mental case because he had different views.  The Trump haters, however, have a kamikaze mentality.  Their sole objective is his destruction.
You just don't understand how would be dictators work. Fortunately this one is a complete idiot, and will end up in jail.

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They hope everything goes to hell because it lends support to their hate filled beliefs.  If people die because of the virus, all the better in their opinion.  They can blame Trump.  If they insist the economy be shutdown for months, and then Trump does that, then blame Trump for the unemployment and economic harm.  btw: how many dems are calling for a shutdown now if it was so effective?  The virus is still around.  How about no one.  It was a failure that actually caused more harm than good and no one would repeat that strategy.  Even the dems realize that was a disaster.

And you call Trump's actions a success? You just confirm your imbecility.

Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1807 on: September 27, 2020, 07:33:05 PM »
Huh?  I knew you were a kook but this one is gold:  "When something is allowed by law, there are no changes."  HA HA HA.  So when the law is changed, there is no change because it is allowed by the law!  Wow.  No wonder you are a CTer.  That is the most tortured logic that I can ever recall this side of 1984.  And no one said that only Dems were changing the rules you dishonest fool.  The point is that in the weeks leading up to the election that the rules are being changed in a way that will affect millions of votes.  There is no universal standard for these changes. Every state that has changed the rules - repub or dem - will interpret and apply different standards potentially resulting in chaos.  And what is the definition of a repub or dem state in this context? For example, there are some states with repub governors, dem majority legislators, and biased one way or the other judicial branches.  And there is no need to create this uncertainty.  If Old Joe is so far ahead in the polls and certain of winning, then why create a situation in which the validity of the election will be disputed by this chaos?  Who will count these millions of mail in ballots?  How long will it take to count, recount, and challenge all these ballots?   Look what happened in Iowa.  Total chaos.  All of which is unnecessary.  Whoever wins - whether Old Joe or Trump - will be under a cloud due to this stupidity.

Huh?  I knew you were a kook but this one is gold:  "When something is allowed by law, there are no changes."  HA HA HA.  So when the law is changed, there is no change because it is allowed by the law!  Wow.

Yeah, I thought it would be over your head, and you have just proven me right. I have always known you are an idiot, but I never thought you were this stupid. The "changes" you mentioned in the list you posted were no changes at all. It is what the States were/are doing within the framework of the law to ensure as many people who want to vote can actually vote. However, now that you have once again instisted that laws have been changed it should be easy for you to tell us which States have actually changed the law and when! But you can't, simply because it didn't happen.
 
And no one said that only Dems were changing the rules you dishonest fool.  The point is that in the weeks leading up to the election that the rules are being changed in a way that will affect millions of votes. 

Do you have any idea what it is you're talking about? One moment you claim laws have been changed (but you can't give one example) and the next you ramble on about rules that were changed. Laws and rules are two very different things. To change a law you need a majority vote of a legislative body. To apply a rule that's already permitted by law, you don't. And applying an existing rule is not the same as changing it.

So I ask again; what laws have been changed in the weeks leading up to the election? Be specific!

And there is no need to create this uncertainty.  If Old Joe is so far ahead in the polls and certain of winning, then why create a situation in which the validity of the election will be disputed by this chaos? 

Who is creating this situation? So, let's see Republican and Democrat controlled States are allowing mail in voting and have no problem with it. The Democrat party and Joe Biden have no problem with it. So that leaves only Donald Trump and his ilk, who are complaining.

But it was Donald Trump himself who attacked the Postoffice, by having one of his buddies taking sorting machines out of the system, changing delivery rules and removing postboxes. The hypocrite who is complaining about mail in voting, is himself voting by mail. Says it all, really!

Who will count these millions of mail in ballots?  How long will it take to count, recount, and challenge all these ballots?

What does it matter how long it takes to count those votes, as long as every American with a right to vote can vote and gets his vote counted? You wouldn't be complaining about mail in voting because in your view that way too many people will be voting, would you now? 

All of which is unnecessary.  Whoever wins - whether Old Joe or Trump - will be under a cloud due to this stupidity.

Only when there is a close election. Not so much when there is a landslide...

You can be as sanctimonious as you like, by pretending to be concerned about the consequences for whoever wins the election, but if massive mail in voting is really such a worrisome issue, why is it that only Trump and his ilk are complaining about it?  If, as you say, the Democrats will be affected by it as well, why do they not worry?
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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