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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1864 on: October 01, 2020, 10:04:43 PM »
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The tape exists.  We don't have to debate what was said.  Here is what Trump said when asked if he would condemn white supremacy:  "Sure, I'm willing to do that."

So then why didn't he actually do it?

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  It was obscured by Wallace but the media reports are false.  If there was any doubt, though, as to Trump's position on that issue he has condemned it on several occasions.  How about asking Hiden about his record of locking up blacks, calling them "predators"

The "superpredators" thing was false too.

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, speaking at the funeral of the grand wizard of the KKK,

That's the best you got?  Byrd recanted his 1940s involvement with the Klan over his lifetime.  Trump won't even condemn current white supremacists.  Why?  Because he needs every vote he can get.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1864 on: October 01, 2020, 10:04:43 PM »


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1865 on: October 02, 2020, 12:09:09 AM »
I don't care what the Wall St. Journal or ABC reported in the past. You falsely claimed that, during the debate, Biden had denied "that Hunter had been kicked out of the military due to his drug use" and that never happened. You made it up!

In reality (which seems to be a foreign concept for you), Trump claimed, during the debate, that Hunter had been dishonorably discharged from the military and that's what Biden denied.



You know better than the WSJ?  Roger Collins - a biased, hate filled kook who spends his every waking moment promoting conspiracy theories on the Internet?  LOL. Was Hunter Biden kicked out of the military for drug use or not?  That is the point.  Pedantic hair splitting over the administrative mechanism used to kick his sorry ass out of the military is not the point.  Hunter made himself relevant to this election by using his father's position to enrich himself to the tune of millions of dollars from foreign governments. 

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1866 on: October 02, 2020, 12:21:42 AM »


Here is what Trump said when asked if he would condemn white supremacy:  "Sure, I'm willing to do that."  It was obscured by Wallace but the media reports are false.

BS.. It was not obscured at all. Everybody heard it. Trump did indeed reply that he was willing to do that..... but subsequently he didn't. J

Wow.  This is your dumbest post since you claimed that no election laws had been changed to allow mail in voting.  And then when confronted with evidence that almost every state has changed their laws claimed that changing the law was somehow not a change in the law because any change became the law.  Totally insane logic.  Here we learn that Trump replied that "he was willing to do that [i.e. condemn white supremacy]" but somehow that means he didn't do it!!!!   You should be ashamed.  Try an example.   Interpret this exchange.  Society: "Hey Roger get a functioning brain."  Martin/Roger:  "Sure, I'm willing to do that."  Ask yourself in this example whether Roger has agreed to seek a functioning brain without any further clarification on his part.  Would you interpret this exchange to mean that Roger has failed to agree to obtaining a functioning brain?  Of course not.  Trump was asked to condemn white supremacy.  He responded:  "Sure, I'm willing to do that."  End of story.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1867 on: October 02, 2020, 12:27:41 AM »
If Trump loses in November, can he resign in the lame duck period allowing President Pence to pardon him? Like Ford did for Nixon.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1868 on: October 02, 2020, 12:34:13 AM »
You know better than the WSJ?  Roger Collins - a biased, hate filled kook who spends his every waking moment promoting conspiracy theories on the Internet?  LOL. Was Hunter Biden kicked out of the military for drug use or not?  That is the point.  Pedantic hair splitting over the administrative mechanism used to kick his sorry ass out of the military is not the point.  Hunter made himself relevant to this election by using his father's position to enrich himself to the tune of millions of dollars from foreign governments.

Was Hunter Biden kicked out of the military for drug use or not?  That is the point.

No it isn't. The point is that Trump lied when he falsely claimed during the debate that Hunter Biden was dishonorably discharged from the military and that's what Biden denied.

As far as everything else in your post goes goes; Hunter Biden is not running for President, nor is he part of the Biden campaign. The unproven and debunked claim that he used Joe Biden's position to enrich himself does not alter that. The far right just want to to be part of the election because they have nothing else to attack Joe Biden on.

Fact is that investigations in the Ukraine have found no wrong doing on Hunter Biden's part and despite all the bogus allegations by Republican hacks, there has not been an investigation of Hunter Biden in America and there never will be one. Why not? Trump has Barr in his pocket and had four years to come up with something solid. It never happened for one reason only; there is nothing there. That's why Trump tried to get the new President of Ukraine to open up a bogus investigation, so he could use it in the election. It blew up in his face and got him impeached!

Clearly out of desperation, you're trying to beat a dead horse.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1868 on: October 02, 2020, 12:34:13 AM »


Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1869 on: October 02, 2020, 12:43:49 AM »
Wow.  This is your dumbest post since you claimed that no election laws had been changed to allow mail in voting.  And then when confronted with evidence that almost every state has changed their laws claimed that changing the law was somehow not a change in the law because any change became the law.  Totally insane logic.  Here we learn that Trump replied that "he was willing to do that [i.e. condemn white supremacy]" but somehow that means he didn't do it!!!!   You should be ashamed.  Try an example.   Interpret this exchange.  Society: "Hey Roger get a functioning brain."  Martin/Roger:  "Sure, I'm willing to do that."  Ask yourself in this example whether Roger has agreed to seek a functioning brain without any further clarification on his part.  Would you interpret this exchange to mean that Roger has failed to agree to obtaining a functioning brain?  Of course not.  Trump was asked to condemn white supremacy.  He responded:  "Sure, I'm willing to do that."  End of story.

When you have anything of significance or substance to say, just let me know.....

Just three remarks;

And then when confronted with evidence that almost every state has changed their laws claimed that changing the law was somehow not a change in the law because any change became the law.

I never claimed any such thing, but it is not my problem when you clearly have difficulty understanding what I have actually written. But regardless of how stupid you are, stop misrepresenting my words.

Here we learn that Trump replied that "he was willing to do that [i.e. condemn white supremacy]" but somehow that means he didn't do it!!!! 

Exactly. That's what people who actually watched the debate saw what happened. Biden challenged him to actually say it.... and he didn't. You need to be brain dead to deny it.


He responded:  "Sure, I'm willing to do that."

He said the same thing about releasing his tax returns..... so where are they?
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1870 on: October 02, 2020, 12:50:02 AM »
EXCLUSIVE: Leader of 'white supremacist' Proud Boys is state director of unofficial support group called Latinos for Trump and has ties to Republicans including the president's son Don Jr., Senator Ted Cruz and Roger Stone, who is a member

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8794301/Leader-Proud-Boys-state-director-Latinos-Trump-close-ties-GOP.html

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1871 on: October 02, 2020, 12:51:54 AM »
How about fact checking the claim that Trump did not condemn white supremacists at the debate?  A widely reported and false claim.  The tape of the event shows that Trump responds "sure" when asked if he would condemn it.  Chris Wallace was just talking over him.  And what about Hiden denying that Hunter had been kicked out of the military due to his drug use?  Hunter was discharged after testing positive for cocaine use.  Old Joe apparently drew a distinction between Hunter being "dishonorably" discharged when he was "administratively" discharged for drug use.   LOL.

He never said "I condemn White Supremacy". He called on his Proud Boys to "stand by". Nice try. 

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1871 on: October 02, 2020, 12:51:54 AM »