Users Currently Browsing This Topic:
0 Members

Author Topic: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2  (Read 442590 times)

Offline Rick Plant

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8177
Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2376 on: November 14, 2020, 12:52:54 AM »
Advertisement
US election 2020: Biden takes Georgia to solidify victory
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54939212

Joe Biden becomes first Democrat in 28 years to win Georgia
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/13/politics/joe-biden-wins-georgia/index.html

Joe Biden has officially won Georgia and has a final total of 306 Electoral Votes which is a landslide victory according to Donald Trump and his GOP cult. Counting down the days until this fraud leaves office in disgrace.   

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2376 on: November 14, 2020, 12:52:54 AM »


Offline Rick Plant

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8177
Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2377 on: November 14, 2020, 01:16:43 AM »
I'm 99% certain that liberal news outlets are not going to mention this, so I will: The COVID-19 case death rate in the U.S. continues to drop. Two weeks ago, it was at 2.6%. Now, as of this morning, it is down to 2.3% (243K deaths/10.6 million cases). That means the average survival rate is up to 97.7%.

At one point during the lockdowns, the case death rate was at 5.67%. Gee, why is it that when states began to reopen and allowed people resume normal lives, the death rate almost immediately began to decrease? Maybe because forcing people to be cooped up at home for weeks is not the best way to deal with the virus?

And, Sweden's COVID-19 success story continues: While the U.S. has averaged about 800 deaths per day since August, Sweden has averaged about 4 deaths per day since August. If we adjust Sweden's numbers to our population size, that would equal about 130 deaths per day in Sweden, 82% lower than our average deaths per day.

But if Biden does take office, you can bet that the Democrats will continue to ignore fact and logic and will seek to impose their panic posture on the rest of us.

More blatant lies and disinformation. We currently have the highest death and infection rate which is at its worst point since the pandemic started. Moderators should remove your posts because it's dangerous and false. Why do you continue to post COVID-19 disinformation? What's your agenda? What's your goal?

New Zealand beat the virus because of strict lockdowns. That's the only way to stop the spread. 

New Zealand Stamps Out Coronavirus For A Second Time: Strict Lockdowns Helped Eliminate Transmission of The Virus
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/07/world/australia/new-zealand-coronavirus.html

US officials warn of tens of thousands more Covid deaths in coming weeks
CDC warning comes amid threat of PPE and bed shortages
New coronavirus cases increase with 150,000 on Thursday

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/13/us-coronavirus-covid-deaths-cdc-warning

COVID-19 Deaths in the U.S. Have Taken a Turn for the Worse
https://www.usnews.com/news/healthiest-communities/articles/2020-11-10/covid-deaths-in-the-us-are-poised-to-surge-model-shows

CDC projects up to 282,000 Covid-19 deaths by December, a new forecast shows
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/12/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html

U.S. reports record 153,400 new Covid cases
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/13/us-reports-record-153400-new-covid-cases-as-dr-fauci-urges-americans-to-be-careful-it-is-not-futile.html

Coronavirus U.S. Numbers

Cases Yesterday: 162,226
Deaths Yesterday: 1,186

Cases Today (so far): 177, 249
Deaths Today (so far): 1,364

So, the day isn't even over yet and we exceed yesterday's case and death total by the thousands. Donald Trump a d the GOP are disgrace infecting and killing thousands of people. Michael T Griffith is posting blatant bogus disinformation on COVID-19.       

 

Offline Rick Plant

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8177
Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2378 on: November 14, 2020, 01:42:59 AM »
Do you really, honestly believe this crazy, hateful drivel? After states began to reopen, the COVID-19 death rate began to *drop dramatically, and has now dropped by over 50%.** And you realize that six states never imposed any kind of lockdown, right? And guess what? Their COVID-19 numbers, per capita, are better than those of states that opted for harsh lockdowns. So if anyone has been killing Americans with bad COVID policy, it has been blue state governments that imposed senseless draconian lockdowns.

And Trump has not conceded because there is substantial evidence of widespread voter fraud in WI, MI, GA, NV, and PA. Some of this evidence was captured **on video,** so to blindly claim that there's "zero evidence of election fraud" is absurd and dishonest. I'm guessing you have not heard this, but a PA state judge just ruled two days ago that the extension of the voting deadline was illegal and that all votes received after the legal deadline will *not* count. And today the state of Georgia has begun its manual recount, although liberal news outlets are virtually ignoring this big story. If the recount puts the state clearly in Trump's column, that will be an important step in undoing Biden's theft of the election.

Democrats and their media pawns are trying very hard to make it seem like the election is over and that Biden won. Funny how they did the opposite in 2000.

Do you remember the 2000 election, when the Democratic candidate, Al Gore, refused to concede for over a month and demanded selective recounts in Florida? Gore did not concede until December 13, and only after the U.S. Supreme Court finally stepped in and stopped the fraudulent recount that the Florida supreme court had illegally allowed to continue. Contrary to liberal mythology, Gore did not want to "count all the votes": he only wanted recounts in certain Democratic-leaning counties, and then he tried to get a statewide recount that would only recount the undervotes. That was when the U.S. Supreme Court intervened.


 :D :D :D

Biden won Georgia today, it's over. Donald Trump lost and was humiliated. The states that didn't impose lockdowns are running out of hospital beds and have a major crisis on their hands. No surprise they are all red states that are a drag on the US economy.     

You are a disinformation artist parroting the same propaganda script that's all over Twitter. The election is over. Donald Trump lost in a landslide. There is no "voter fraud" anywhere. This is all a scam by Donald Trump. His own lawyers are abandoning him and can't they point to one single count of voter fraud. The drivel is coming from you, right wing hacks, and the cultist sheep on the right. Just more bogus conspiracy theories intended to destroy our democracy and election process. That's why America overwhelmingly defeated right wingers this election. They are sick of them.         

Election Officials Directly Contradict Trump on Voting System Fraud

A group of federal, state and local officials working with a Department of Homeland Security agency declared flatly that the election was the most secure in the nation’s history.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/12/us/politics/election-officials-contradict-trump.html

Trump attorney openly admits to judge under penalty of perjury that there’s no election fraud
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/trump-attorney-openly-admits-to-judge-under-penalty-of-perjury-that-theres-no-election-fraud/

Trump ‘martyring himself’ with bogus election fraud claims
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/trump-martyring-himself-with-bogus-election-fraud-claims-and-its-working/

Trump campaign abandoned by law firm defending its Pennsylvania election lawsuit
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/trump-campaign-abandoned-by-law-firm-defending-its-pennsylvania-election-lawsuit/

The election is over’: Lawyer who won Bush v Gore case says Trump lost
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/the-election-is-over-lawyer-who-won-bush-v-gore-case-says-trump-lost/

Trump’s plan is to ‘delay certification of the election results’ — then announce he’s running in 2024
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/trumps-plan-is-to-delay-certification-of-the-election-results-then-announce-hes-running-in-2024-nyt/

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2378 on: November 14, 2020, 01:42:59 AM »


Offline Rick Plant

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8177
Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2379 on: November 14, 2020, 01:51:05 AM »
Defeated election loser Donald Trump came out of hiding today and looked more weaker than ever looking sickly and frail with white hair. Guess he was too depressed to color his fake hair canary yellow for the occasion but he did manage to spray paint his fat face kool aid orange. He was out of breath again with another monotone boring press conference. He did let it slip that he is a loser and lost the election. We won't be watching very many of these anymore.  Donald Trump tried to take credit for a vaccine he had nothing to do with and accused Pfizer of conspiring against him. Donald Trump is a loser and a fraud and will spend the rest of his miserable time fighting off legal battles and trying to stay out of prison from all his criminal antics. Good riddance.  Thumb1:   

Offline Colin Crow

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1860
Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2380 on: November 14, 2020, 01:57:19 AM »
More blatant lies and disinformation. We currently have the highest death and infection rate which is at its worst point since the pandemic started. Moderators should remove your posts because it's dangerous and false. Why do you continue to post COVID-19 disinformation? What's your agenda? What's your goal?

New Zealand beat the virus because of strict lockdowns. That's the only way to stop the spread. 

New Zealand Stamps Out Coronavirus For A Second Time: Strict Lockdowns Helped Eliminate Transmission of The Virus
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/07/world/australia/new-zealand-coronavirus.html

US officials warn of tens of thousands more Covid deaths in coming weeks
CDC warning comes amid threat of PPE and bed shortages
New coronavirus cases increase with 150,000 on Thursday

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/13/us-coronavirus-covid-deaths-cdc-warning

COVID-19 Deaths in the U.S. Have Taken a Turn for the Worse
https://www.usnews.com/news/healthiest-communities/articles/2020-11-10/covid-deaths-in-the-us-are-poised-to-surge-model-shows

CDC projects up to 282,000 Covid-19 deaths by December, a new forecast shows
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/12/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html

U.S. reports record 153,400 new Covid cases
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/13/us-reports-record-153400-new-covid-cases-as-dr-fauci-urges-americans-to-be-careful-it-is-not-futile.html

Coronavirus U.S. Numbers

Cases Yesterday: 162,226
Deaths Yesterday: 1,186

Cases Today (so far): 177, 249
Deaths Today (so far): 1,364

So, the day isn't even over yet and we exceed yesterday's case and death total by the thousands. Donald Trump a d the GOP are disgrace infecting and killing thousands of people. Michael T Griffith is posting blatant bogus disinformation on COVID-19.       

 

Rick it’s apples and oranges I'm afraid. NZ was able to go for eradication because of the low numbers, isolation and aggressive lockdown including shutting all borders. Here in Australia we went for mitigation strategy initially, similar to US, remember "lowering the curve". We went harder and a bit earlier than the US and are now in a position similar to NZ, where eradication has been seen as a possible strategy for a few months. I’m afraid that the US has so much widespread community infection that even a lockdown at this stage will take months to have a real effect. My fear is, unless you do, your health system and it’s workers seem to be at point of overload with numbers increasing exponentially.

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2380 on: November 14, 2020, 01:57:19 AM »


Offline Joe Elliott

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1727
Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2381 on: November 14, 2020, 03:04:04 AM »

I'm 99% certain that liberal news outlets are not going to mention this, so I will: The COVID-19 case death rate in the U.S. continues to drop. Two weeks ago, it was at 2.6%. Now, as of this morning, it is down to 2.3% (243K deaths/10.6 million cases). That means the average survival rate is up to 97.7%.

At one point during the lockdowns, the case death rate was at 5.67%. Gee, why is it that when states began to reopen and allowed people resume normal lives, the death rate almost immediately began to decrease? Maybe because forcing people to be cooped up at home for weeks is not the best way to deal with the virus?

Mr. Griffith is talking about the death rate of those who do get infected. The number dying each day in the United States is going up, not down. Around a month ago it was 750 a day. Now it is 1,100 a day and going up.

I am almost positive the lowering of the death rate of those who have gotten the virus is due to doctor’s improved knowledge of what treatment works best. They seem very good at spreading information to other doctors pretty fast.



And, Sweden's COVID-19 success story continues: While the U.S. has averaged about 800 deaths per day since August, Sweden has averaged about 4 deaths per day since August. If we adjust Sweden's numbers to our population size, that would equal about 130 deaths per day in Sweden, 82% lower than our average deaths per day.

In the early summer I thought Sweden was handling it well. Clearly, their strategy has not worked out.



But if Biden does take office, you can bet that the Democrats will continue to ignore fact and logic and will seek to impose their panic posture on the rest of us.

I am not panicked but damm concerned. In the U. S., the daily infection rate is getting up there, 400 people per million. Worst, the rate has been doubling every 21 days or less. If this keeps up for 4 more winter months, it will be over 10,000 people a day for every million people. Obviously, it won’t get that bad, I don’t think, because at some point people will start to hide from others if they must. And hopefully, the vaccine will start taking effect. But the worst months are ahead despite the increase in medical knowledge. Hopefully, people will start to get more careful, as they have in the past when the rates went up. But clearly, winter weather is having a very bad effect.


Quote
"Covid, Covid, Covid, Covid.' By the way, on November 4, you won't hear about it anymore,"

Our President Trump, October 24, 2020.

What an idiot. Does he listen to Dr. Anthony Fauci? Does he listen to any doctor? Has he never heard of the cold and flu season? Right now, all his attention seems to be devoted to attempting to become President for Life. What do elections matter if you can somehow get the courts (he’s dreaming) to overrule the voter count, Well, if successful, I guess he would have to follow Putin’s example and let Pence be the official President from 2025-2029 before resuming.

Offline Colin Crow

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1860
Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2382 on: November 14, 2020, 03:41:41 AM »
Barnum's calculation was an underestimate. Trump's next book, "The Art of the Grift".

Offline Michael T. Griffith

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 929
Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2383 on: November 14, 2020, 12:13:03 PM »
More blatant lies and disinformation. We currently have the highest death and infection rate which is at its worst point since the pandemic started. Moderators should remove your posts because it's dangerous and false. Why do you continue to post COVID-19 disinformation? What's your agenda? What's your goal?

What?! Moderators should remove your posts for sheer stupidity. We do not "currently have the highest" death rate since the pandemic started. That is demonstrably false, as anyone can confirm by checking the CDC site, the Johns Hopkins site, or the WHO site. During the lockdowns, the death rate got as high as 5.67%. But, it began to drop dramatically after states began to reopen, and it is now at  2.3% (243K deaths/10.6 million cases). That means the average survival rate is up to 97.7%. Can you do basic math?

Part of the problem is that you guys keep focusing on case numbers and ignore the dramatic drop in the death rate. You just don't seem to care that the death rate has dropped to 2.3%, which means that the average survival rate is 97.7%

New Zealand beat the virus because of strict lockdowns. That's the only way to stop the spread. 

New Zealand Stamps Out Coronavirus For A Second Time: Strict Lockdowns Helped Eliminate Transmission of The Virus
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/07/world/australia/new-zealand-coronavirus.html

I've already answered this liberal talking point, and you keep ignoring the answer and just keep on citing liberal rags like the New York Times. New Zealand is an ISLAND and has a very low population density. How about we talk about Taiwan, which has a much higher population density--24 million people in 14K square miles vs. New Zealand's 4.8 million people in 103K square miles? Taiwan refused to impose a lockdown and kept its businesses and schools open--and Taiwan has the lowest infection and death rates in the world.

US officials warn of tens of thousands more Covid deaths in coming weeks
CDC warning comes amid threat of PPE and bed shortages
New coronavirus cases increase with 150,000 on Thursday

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/13/us-coronavirus-covid-deaths-cdc-warning

COVID-19 Deaths in the U.S. Have Taken a Turn for the Worse
https://www.usnews.com/news/healthiest-communities/articles/2020-11-10/covid-deaths-in-the-us-are-poised-to-surge-model-shows

CDC projects up to 282,000 Covid-19 deaths by December, a new forecast shows
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/12/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html

U.S. reports record 153,400 new Covid cases
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/13/us-reports-record-153400-new-covid-cases-as-dr-fauci-urges-americans-to-be-careful-it-is-not-futile.html

Coronavirus U.S. Numbers

Cases Yesterday: 162,226
Deaths Yesterday: 1,186

Cases Today (so far): 177, 249
Deaths Today (so far): 1,364

So, the day isn't even over yet and we exceed yesterday's case and death total by the thousands. Donald Trump a d the GOP are disgrace infecting and killing thousands of people. Michael T Griffith is posting blatant bogus disinformation on COVID-19.

HOGWASH! You are just too ignorant to do basic math. You keep focusing on case numbers. Look at the death rate, since that is the key stat. I dare you to divide the number of cases by the number of deaths. If you do so, if you know how, you will see that the death rate is now down to 2.3%. Then, go back to the middle of the lockdowns and do the same calculation, and you will see that the death rate was consistently well over 5% for weeks during the lockdowns.
« Last Edit: November 14, 2020, 12:20:48 PM by Michael T. Griffith »

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2383 on: November 14, 2020, 12:13:03 PM »