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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2432 on: November 14, 2020, 07:49:18 PM »
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LOL.  It is a perfect narrative for Trump.  He ends his presidency with a magnificent triumph with the vaccine.  Old Joe and Kantala take over and raise taxes and impose lockdowns that crush the economy.  Four years of Jimmy Carter-like malaise ensue. They will blame the "republicans" for their failures.  How were they supposed to get anything done with the mean republicans opposing them?  Boo hoo. And Trump emerges from that incompetency in 2024 like a savior.  His new slogan:  "See, I Told You So." The story arc is then complete.

Your crystal ball seems to be malfunctioning

Btw did you miss the news that, today, Pennsylvania courts dismissed a further six court cases brought by Trump as baseless?
Add one more in Arizona and one withdrawn for lack of evidence which brings the total of failed lawsuits to 18 in 5 days....
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Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2433 on: November 15, 2020, 01:51:59 AM »
Another fact update on COVID-19: Over the last three days, the death rate has dropped once again. Three days ago, the death rate was 2.3%--243K deaths/10.6 million cases. As of this morning, it is 2.26%--244K deaths/10.8 million cases. You can Google the numbers and do the simple math yourself. 244,000 deaths out of 10.8 million cases equals a case death rate of 2.26%, which means the average survival rate is 97.74%.

And when you break down the numbers by age group, you see that for about 60% of the U.S. population, COVID-19 poses either a lower risk than the flu or about the same risk as the flu. If you doubt this, go to the CDC or Johns Hopkins site and divide the number of cases by the number of deaths for the age groups that those sites use. And/or go to state websites and do the same calculation for the age groups they use. Different sites use different age groups. You will see that for ages 0-19, the death rate is far below the flu's death rate; that for ages 20-49, the death rate is nearly the same as that of the flu (0.11% to 0.29%, almost identical to the flu's death rate range); that for ages 50-64, the death rate is right around 1.97%, which equals a survival rate of 98.03%. Only with ages 65 and up does the death rate enter genuinely dangerous territory: it is around 14%, which still equals a survival rate of 86%, far, far better than the odds of beating most forms of cancer.

But liberals continue to scare people by focusing on the number of cases without telling people that the death rate continues to drop steadily. Nor do liberals bother to tell people that for weeks during the lockdowns, the death rate was over 5% and did not start to noticeably drop until states began to reopen. If more people had this crucial information, they would immediately begin to question the lockdown approach.

What about the extensive damage COVID inflicts on the people who survive it? This is a necrotizing virus that attacks your organs such as your heart and lungs. Many people who survive have permanent damage. Much more than with the flu (which is not a single virus which you can call the "flu"). What are those stats? And if COVID-19 is no worse than the flu, which you are implying, then fill your boots. Just make sure you wear a mask so you don't infect the rest of us.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2434 on: November 15, 2020, 01:52:24 AM »
Your crystal ball seems to be malfunctioning

Btw did you miss the news that, today, Pennsylvania courts dismissed a further six court cases brought by Trump as baseless?
Add one more in Arizona and one withdrawn for lack of evidence which brings the total of failed lawsuits to 18 in 5 days....

LOL.  Do you have a brain tumor?  What does that have to do with 2024 you imbecile?

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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2435 on: November 15, 2020, 02:20:40 AM »
Rumour has it Trump is a sure bet to win the next series of America's Biggest Loser. Maybe he should syndicate that for his media empire.

In he end he was successful in MAGA, by losing.

Another promise of his that might come true......the Mexicans will pay for the length of new wall erected where none existed before....all 15 miles.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2436 on: November 15, 2020, 02:32:47 AM »
LOL.  It is a perfect narrative for Trump.  He ends his presidency with a magnificent triumph with the vaccine.

LOL Drumpf "the butcher" ends his presidency with a magnificent triumph of 250,000 kills + those morons who injected disinfectant into themselves.

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Old Joe and Kantala take over and raise taxes and impose lockdowns that crush the economy.  Four years of Jimmy Carter-like malaise ensue. They will blame the "republicans" for their failures.  How were they supposed to get anything done with the mean republicans opposing them?  Boo hoo.

LOL Then you woke up and realized that Biden was the POTUS and Drumpf was in jail.

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And Trump emerges from that incompetency in 2024 like a savior.  His new slogan:  "See, I Told You So." The story arc is then complete.

Drumpf HATES being prez. He thinks it's boring. He admitted that he's broke and scared of being arrested with no money to bail himself out. That's what this "Stop the Steal" crap is all about. A fundraiser to "lawyer up". Yet the rubes pour into the streets at the beckoning of f**king Roger Stone for cripe sakes! The only ones more retarded than Drumpf himself are his base of idiots. Drumpf will likely be done in by a double cheese burger before 2024.
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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2437 on: November 15, 2020, 04:09:39 AM »
LOL.  Do you have a brain tumor?  What does that have to do with 2024 you imbecile?

So much anger...

I didn't say that the added on comment had anything to do with 2024.

It has to do with the bogus "election fraud" claims in 2020....It seems you need a working brain to understand that.

As for 2024... just keep dreaming.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2020, 10:05:52 AM by Martin Weidmann »

Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2438 on: November 15, 2020, 04:40:26 AM »
LOL Drumpf "the butcher" ends his presidency with a magnificent triumph of 200,000 kills + those morons who injected disinfectant into themselves.

LOL Then you woke up and realized that Biden was the POTUS and Drumpf was in jail.

Drumpf HATES being prez. He thinks it's boring. He admitted that he's broke and scared of being arrested with no money to bail himself out. That's what this "Stop the Steal" crap is all about. A fundraiser to "lawyer up". Yet the rubes pour into the streets at the beckoning of f**king Roger Stone for cripe sakes! The only ones more retarded than Drumpf himself are his base of idiots. Drumpf will likely be done in by a double cheese burger before 2024.

The only ones more retarded than Drumpf himself are his base of idiots.

Indeed. What's wrong with those people? They call themselves "patriots" who love America and hate everybody who doesn't share their views.

The truth is they are not patriots, because a true patriot tries to keep the country together and not tear it apart. A true patriot does not consider his fellow countrymen with different opinions to be "enemy of the state". The paranoid notion that Americans, be they politicians, MSM, judges or whatever, could be anti-American and out to destroy the country is absurd to anybody with a working brain, but not to the Trump crowd. And the America they say they love is the country how they would like it to be and not the country it actually is today. The Trump supporters are a cancer that's growing in America. They don't defend values, because they have none. All they have is their own petty selfinterest and anybody that gets in the way is automatically branded as a traitor or worse. Just like Trump, they have no problem with calling members of the Republican party corrupt or incompetent as soon as they do or say something that they don't like.

Their paranoia is clouding their judgment and their all consuming obsession with everything they think is socialism is pathetic, as most of them do not even understand the meaning of the word. For them, it's just a red flag. Even worse, without understanding the absurdity of what they are saying, they blindly repeat whatever Trump and his ilk tell them, without being able to present a coherent argument beyond a soundbyte and/or have a rational conversation about the topic.

Despite the fact that the courts have already thrown out 16 frivolous lawsuits in one week, they continue to claim that at least 5 States somehow have conspired with the Democrats to rig the Presidential election, without tampering with the Senate and House elections. They go so far as to claim that even Republicans are part of this massive conspiracy. What they never do is think about the idiocy of what they are saying.

For four years they have exposed themselves for what they really are; ignorant and selfish. They consider themselves to be the master race, just like the Germans did in the 1930's, and they are too stupid to even understand what they have become.
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Offline Michael T. Griffith

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2439 on: November 15, 2020, 03:30:27 PM »
What about the extensive damage COVID inflicts on the people who survive it? This is a necrotizing virus that attacks your organs such as your heart and lungs. Many people who survive have permanent damage. Much more than with the flu (which is not a single virus which you can call the "flu"). What are those stats? And if COVID-19 is no worse than the flu, which you are implying, then fill your boots. Just make sure you wear a mask so you don't infect the rest of us.

Very few people who survive COVID-19 suffer "extensive damage." What source is telling you that "many" people who survive the virus--which, BTW, is about 97% of those who catch it--subsequently suffer "extensive damage"? Where are you getting that? The stats I've seen show that only a very small percentage of people experience any serious health issues after they catch and survive COVID-19.

I know 22 people who caught COVID-19, including two people in my immediate and extended family, and not one of them has experienced any unusual health issues after they caught it. In fact, ALL of them either had no symptoms or mild symptoms.

So, again, what is your source for claiming that "many" survivors suffer "extensive damage"?

Finally, as of this morning, the COVID-19 death rate has dropped again. It is now down to 2.23% (245K deaths/11 million cases). If your liberal brain can't process this fact, do the math yourself. 245K deaths out of 11 million cases equals a case death rate of 2.23% and a survival rate of 97.77%. Why do you people insist on panicking over a virus that has an average survival rate of 97.77%?
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