Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[Richard Smith]

A President taking credit for something that happened on his watch, something that he strongly urged and encouraged, and something that he facilitated by ordering the FDA to wave most of the senseless regulations that usually delay a drug's development and distribution by 1-5 years! Scandal! "Narcissism"!

Yes, it is narcissism. You don't ask for credit for simply doing (for once) the job you were supposed to do. This is the same guy who basically begged to be given a Nobel Prize. It's pathetic and shameless. European leaders also did their job and did the same things Trump did. None of them have claimed credit for it.

He's never said he's the one who developed the vaccines, only that he deserves credit for pushing along the process, an entirely valid point.

Wrong the cronies around him wanted him to get the credit for the development of the vaccine. Stop trying to rewrite history.

And let's remember that when Trump said in October that a vaccine was just about ready and would be distributed early next year, Biden and Harris and other Democrats mocked, scoffed, and howled.

By October he had lost all credibility after claiming in March that the virus would disappear by itself. Even if somebody makes false promises all the time, there is always a possibility that one promise actually turns out to be correct. But let's wait and see what really happens, as the companies are saying the vaccine distribution will likely not be before summer 2021.

When the Dems were advocating that people come down to Chinatown and NYC for events, Trump was advocating a vaccine.  He has done so from day one while Old Joe waved a mask around and falsely claimed it was the solution.  Trump set in motion the full powers of the US government to assist in the development and distribution of a vaccine.  It is coming in a few weeks.  If any democrat had done that, the media would be weeping with joy and praise.  Instead they are casting doubt on its safety.  History is going to treat this event a lot differently than CNN. 

[Martin Weidmann]

When the Dems were advocating that people come down to Chinatown and NYC for events, Trump was advocating a vaccine.  He has done so from day one while Old Joe waved a mask around and falsely claimed it was the solution.  Trump set in motion the full powers of the US government to assist in the development and distribution of a vaccine.  It is coming in a few weeks.  If any democrat had done that, the media would be weeping with joy and praise.  Instead they are casting doubt on its safety.  History is going to treat this event a lot differently than CNN.

If only you could manage for once to get your facts straight and not misrepresent them. Operation Warp Speed did not start until April 2020, at which time we were already in the middle of the pandamic. That's hardly "day one".

And again, you don't need to get credit for doing something that's part of your job in the first place.

Instead they are casting doubt on its safety.

Just like Trump is casting "doubt" about the election where there is none? 

The Democrats only want to ensure that the medication is safe to use. Approval by the FDA will settle that matter.

[Colin Crow]

The Moderna vaccine is a product of Operation Warp Speed.  How about you not take the Trump vaccine and let Darwinism run its course?

Again you don’t even know how Darwinism works......ffs....I already called you on this. Are my posts filtered to you and Michael G?

[Martin Weidmann]

Now we have a third vaccine that's 90% effective and it was developed completely outside the USA by Oxford/Astrazeneca in England.

So, that's two out of three vaccines that were developed outside Operation Warp Speed. Are the idiots still going to credit Trump?

[Jack Trojan]

The Moderna vaccine is a product of Operation Warp Speed.  How about you not take the Trump vaccine and let Darwinism run its course?

LOL Are you suggesting the Moderna vaccine wouldn't exist if not for Drumpf? What did he do besides throw some taxpayer money at it and named it Operation Warp Speed? And how did he know that 3 vaccines would be developed independently in record time? Only Xi knew a vaccine could be developed at warp speed, not Moderna, Pfizer or AstraZeneca. Don't you find that incredibly suspicious? Isn't it more likely that COVID-19 was a well known (by China) designer virus? China probably already had their own vaccine for it but they had to keep it on the QT. It doesn't mean they intended to use it as a bio-weapon, but they couldn't admit to creating it since Drumpf was already accusing China of weaponizing it so he would lose the election.

[Rick Plant]

When the Dems were advocating that people come down to Chinatown and NYC for events, Trump was advocating a vaccine.  He has done so from day one while Old Joe waved a mask around and falsely claimed it was the solution.  Trump set in motion the full powers of the US government to assist in the development and distribution of a vaccine.  It is coming in a few weeks.  If any democrat had done that, the media would be weeping with joy and praise.  Instead they are casting doubt on its safety.  History is going to treat this event a lot differently than CNN.

 

Bogus propaganda.

The events were in early February BEFORE Donald Trump reluctantly declared an National Emergency. A couple of weeks later, Donald Trump called COVID-19 a hoax. Donald Trump had nothing to do with the vaccine.     

[Rick Plant]

I hate to be the bearer of more good news about COVID-19, since I know liberals prefer to wallow in baseless panic over the virus, but here are more numbers that prove that the virus poses a minimal risk to most Americans.

If New York City (NYC), with its population of 8.4 million, were a state, it would be the 13th most populated state and the most densely populated state in the country. So let us look at NYC’s COVID-19 numbers to see if they tell us anything about how we should be responding to the virus. NYC’s numbers are further proof that one-size-fits-all lockdowns are unscientific and unjustified.

The age groups are the groups used by NYC’s health department. Also, NYC’s health department does its case numbers and its age-group case and death rates in increments of the rate per 100,000 people, but you’ll still easily get the picture.

All Ages
Cases: 277,558
Deaths: 24,202
Death rate: 8.72%
Survival Rate: 91.28%

Ages 0-17
Cases: 2,564 per 100,000
Deaths: 19
Death rate: 1.1 per 100,000
Survival rate: 99,999.9 per 100,000

Ages 18-24
Cases: 2,790 per 100,000
Deaths: 44
Death rate: 2.49 per 100,000
Survival Rate: 99,997.51 per 100,000

Ages 25-34
Cases: 3,242 per 100,000
Deaths: 228
Death rate: 12.94 per 100,000
Survival Rate: 99,987.06 per 100,000

Ages 35-44
Cases: 3,841 per 100,000
Deaths: 623
Death rate: 46.09 per 100,000
Survival Rate: 99,953.91 per 100,000

Ages 45-54
Cases: 4,483 per 100,000
Deaths: 1,618
Death rate: 126.93 per 100,000
Survival Rate: 99,873.07 per 100,000

Ages 55-64
Cases: 4,483 per 100,000
Deaths: 3,756
Death rate: 306.43 per 100,000
Survival Rate: 99,693.57 per 100,000

Ages 65-74
Cases: 4,275 per 100,000
Deaths: 5,805
Death rate: 670.01 per 100,000
Survival Rate: 99,329.99 per 100,000

Ages 75-100
Cases: 4,956 per 100,000
Deaths: 12,092
Death rate: 1,705.45 per 100,000
Survival Rate: 98,294.55 per 100,000

Notice that ages 65-74 and 75-100 account for 17,897 of NYC’s 24,202 COVID-19 deaths, or 73.95% of those deaths. So why are we not focusing our restrictions on those two age groups instead of imposing them on everyone? Why are we closing schools when children are far less likely to die from COVID-19 than they are from the common flu? We don’t close schools during flu season, so why should we close them because of COVID-19 when the risk from COVID-19 is far lower than the risk from the flu? If there are teachers in their sixties, they can take extra precautions when they’re around students or other teachers.

Notice also that NYC’s numbers debunk the myth that teens and college-aged kids are “super spreaders.” The super spreaders are people aged 45-100. People aged 0-24 are far less likely to catch the virus than older groups and therefore are the age group that is least likely to spread the virus. You can’t spread it if you don’t have it.

If you want to confirm the above numbers, here’s the link to the NYC health department’s website:

COVID-19: Data Totals - NYC Health

The disinformation artist Michael T. Griffith strikes again! Texas is a COVID-19 disaster. They currently have more infections, deaths, and hospitalizations than New York.       

Dallas County reports 1,862 coronavirus cases, 1 death; Tarrant reports 1,537 cases, 6 deaths
There are 8,174 COVID-19 patients in Texas hospitals, including 2,301 in the Dallas-Fort Worth area.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2020/11/22/texas-reports-8554-cases-89-deaths-tarrant-county-reports-1537-coronavirus-cases/

[Rick Plant]

Gosh, imagine that! A President taking credit for something that happened on his watch, something that he strongly urged and encouraged, and something that he facilitated by ordering the FDA to wave most of the senseless regulations that usually delay a drug's development and distribution by 1-5 years! Scandal! "Narcissism"!

He's never said he's the one who developed the vaccines, only that he deserves credit for pushing along the process, an entirely valid point.

And let's remember that when Trump said in October that a vaccine was just about ready and would be distributed early next year, Biden and Harris and other Democrats mocked, scoffed, and howled.

Donald Trump always takes credit for things he had nothing to do with just like Obama-Biden's economy that was the greatest on record before Donald Trump destroyed it with his bogus Chinese tariffs and COVID-19 disaster. He had nothing to do with the vaccine because the drug companies said so.