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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2616 on: November 29, 2020, 05:58:25 PM »
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We all know how Joe Biden won the election from his basement! He defied all odds and won.   If you have a mail-in ballot system it better be like Oregon (so said Obama) where the signatures are on record and can be compared to those sending in the votes to prove validity.   It seems that was the difference.  Paper ballots are the only way to avoid VLT fraud and make elections valid on election day.


Instead of all this so-called statistical mumbo jumbo, what really made the difference is that there were more Americans than ever before who wanted to get rid of the sitting President, so they came out in much larger numbers than usual.

Trump got more votes than any sitting President before him because his supporters turned out in record numbers to vote also. There just were not enough of them.

Every poll had Biden ahead of Trump for months prior to the election. Trump was already complaining about potential voter fraud prior to the election, but he did nothing about it. The reason is simple; he was laying the groundwork for bogus claims of voter fraud in case he lost. He would not have said a word if he had won.

It was Trump who ensured that Biden won the election.
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2617 on: November 29, 2020, 09:22:02 PM »
The president gets to appoint justices to fill vacancies.

Sure, except of course when his name is Obama.

Obviously, they appoint people who are consistent with their policies.

Yes, but once appointed they have to apply the law and not impliment policies. Chief Justice Roberts understood that.

Obama DID appoint a justice per his constitutional role.  The Senate did not confirm him.  Do the Justices that have been appointed by the Dems "apply the law" and not implement policies?  They vote a straight party line for dem supported causes.  The republs are the only ones to every break party ranks per your example of Roberts.  Your "logic" seems to run only one direction.  If Trump had suggested court packing to approves his policies as the dems are doing, he would have been vilified as a dictator who didn't respect the checks and balances of the judiciary.  But when the libs do it, it is hunky dory.   

Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2618 on: November 29, 2020, 09:31:15 PM »
Obama DID appoint a justice per his constitutional role.  The Senate did not confirm him.  Do the Justices that have been appointed by the Dems "apply the law" and not implement policies?  They vote a straight party line for dem supported causes.  The republs are the only ones to every break party ranks per your example of Roberts.  Your "logic" seems to run only one direction.  If Trump had suggested court packing to approves his policies as the dems are doing, he would have been vilified as a dictator who didn't respect the checks and balances of the judiciary.  But when the libs do it, it is hunky dory.

In other words, you are ok with the country being effectively run by SCOTUS... Got it.

Obama DID appoint a justice per his constitutional role.  The Senate did not confirm him.

BS.. the Republicans wouldn't even hold a hearing.
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2619 on: November 29, 2020, 09:38:23 PM »
In other words, you are ok with the country being effectively run by SCOTUS... Got it.

Obama DID appoint a justice per his constitutional role.  The Senate did not confirm him.

BS.. they Republicans wouldn't even hold a hearing.

You didn't answer any of the substantive points.  Name one Justice that has been appointed by a Dem who has not voted the party line.  There isn't one.  They vote straight down the party line.  So if you are objecting to Supreme Court justices that are influenced by policies and politics apply it to them all and not just those appointed by republicans (who ironically do occasionally not vote a straight party line).  And if you are advocating "court packing," then why shouldn't Trump name additional justices before he leaves office etc?

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2620 on: November 29, 2020, 09:47:33 PM »
You didn't answer any of the substantive points.  Name one Justice that has been appointed by a Dem who has not voted the party line.  There isn't one.  They vote straight down the party line.  So if you are objecting to Supreme Court justices that are influenced by policies and politics apply it to them all and not just those appointed by republicans (who ironically do occasionally not vote a straight party line).  And if you are advocating "court packing," then why shouldn't Trump name additional justices before he leaves office etc?

There was nothing substantive in your opinion.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2621 on: November 29, 2020, 09:49:11 PM »
There was nothing substantive in your opinion.

Run Roger run. 

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2622 on: November 29, 2020, 10:45:48 PM »
What do the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) and Epstein have in common?   Blackmail!  Interesting to see how this plays out.   This Hunter video was on his laptop and may have involved his niece Natalie - FBI says nothing of it.  I guess Hilary could have a private server at home, smash her devices and have her husband meet on a tarmack - why would this even make news?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/go-chinas-gtv-releases-videos-hunter-biden-sex-tapes-smoking-crack/

Don't watch the link unless you want to see Hunter smoking crack and taking selfies of himself while he amuses himself with a girl. It has been somewhat censored.  Apparently it was released in an attempt to prevent the CCP from using it against the Biden's. 

https://gtv.org/video/id=5f94837c7de25667c0fe0c5e#/VideoPlay_UI

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2623 on: November 30, 2020, 01:11:53 AM »
Donald Trump......the candidate who put the con into conservative.

For all of you who aren’t aware yet, maybe consider the Mussolini playbook for introducing authoritarianism. It likely won’t work this time because Trump is a moron. Be afraid however of the smarter Republicans, those who have yet to speak out at this attempt. They are the ones who would willingly give up democracy to retain power. There was always a reasonable support base for a populist leader with appeal to the anti intellectual, racist, nationalist groups. The problem for them is getting enough votes to obtain power from a fair election. The answer is to claim it was rigged. Unfortunately there are too many states this time to turn. The question now is not if but when. 2024?

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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