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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2720 on: December 04, 2020, 12:43:13 PM »
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The dems have locked down LA.  One of the biggest cities in the country.  That worked really well in NYC.  Not only did they have the highest death toll by a long shot but it also destroyed their economy.  People are fleeing California and NY like the place is on fire.  And for California, that is actually the case.  A total disaster of governance.   And Old Joe will run the entire country that way.  Fortunately, he is a do nothing who will only try to do what his Wall St. paymasters demand.  He will even screw that up, though, and blame all his failures on the evil republicans.  So the harm he will do is limited by his incompetence.  Basically, a senile version of Jimmy Carter or Obama.

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NYC has a lower death rate than Texas which is a COVID disaster.

What's Richard's plan to help comabt COVID-19? Nothing

He feels that nothing should be done and let thousands of more people die and let all the hospitals max out. Right?

 

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2721 on: December 04, 2020, 12:57:54 PM »
2,918 deaths and 218,576 new cases yesterday and Richard Smith is crying because California locked down to help stop the spread of the virus and to help save lives.

Texas had over 17,000 new infections and 224 deaths. That's another week of over 200+ deaths a day.   

Florida with 103 deaths and South Dakota had 38 more.

Pennsylvania had 206 and Michigan with 193 because of the morons who attended maskless maga hate rallies. The lame duck is killing off his own deranged supporters.   

These four states have been hit hard by COVID-19 yet balked at strict mask mandates. What is it like to live there?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/12/01/covid-19-high-rates-few-rules-texas-wyoming-south-dakota-florida/6431859002/

Study links Trump rallies to more than 700 Covid Deaths
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/31/trump-study-coronavirus-rallies-433760

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2722 on: December 04, 2020, 01:56:43 PM »
For all you liberals with your hands over your eyes when it comes to the mounting evidence of large-scale voter fraud, here's a video of some clearly untoward ballot-counting in Georgia where we see election workers counting briefcases full of ballots after most of the other workers had departed:

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/trump-legal-team-says-ga-video-footage-depicts-poll-workers-suitcases

This is in addition to the many videos (1) of GOP election observers being refused entrance to voting facilities, (2) of GOP election observers being forced to sit far away from vote-counting stations, and (3) of Democratic election workers covering windows so that observers could not even observe vote-counting through the windows. "No evidence whatsoever of voter fraud"???!!!

And here's another article on the revealing and troubling findings of data analysis of the voting results now that data experts have been carefully examining the data:

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/no-one-had-done-data-expert-details-major-effort-investigate-2020-voter



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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2723 on: December 04, 2020, 03:00:37 PM »
For all you liberals with your hands over your eyes when it comes to the mounting evidence of large-scale voter fraud, here's a video of some clearly untoward ballot-counting in Georgia where we see election workers counting briefcases full of ballots after most of the other workers had departed:

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/trump-legal-team-says-ga-video-footage-depicts-poll-workers-suitcases

This is in addition to the many videos (1) of GOP election observers being refused entrance to voting facilities, (2) of GOP election observers being forced to sit far away from vote-counting stations, and (3) of Democratic election workers covering windows so that observers could not even observe vote-counting through the windows. "No evidence whatsoever of voter fraud"???!!!

And here's another article on the revealing and troubling findings of data analysis of the voting results now that data experts have been carefully examining the data:

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/no-one-had-done-data-expert-details-major-effort-investigate-2020-voter

Ball said the FBI, DOJ and Homeland Security found no evidence of major fraud. Biden won. Get over it.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2724 on: December 04, 2020, 03:35:08 PM »
Maybe he learned something.....like you could about Darwinism.....yet you just avoid answering again and again. Why is that? It's sticking out like the proverbial.

What could he possibly have learned that was new?  He was addressing the effectiveness of masks during the current pandemic.  He indicated they were a security blanket but did little good.  If he was wrong at that time, that is amazing incompetence for a person whose life experience was dealing with such situations.  So let us summarize:

1) Wearing a mask is better than not wearing a mask but has limited effectiveness.

2) The Dems vastly overstated the effectiveness of masks when it became clear that Trump was reluctant to wear one and was skeptical of the claims being made about them.  This allowed the Dems to falsely but effectively blame Trump for the deaths for political purposes.

3) Because the effectiveness of masks has been grossly overstated, many people have been led to conclude that they can safely return to their normal life and business just by wearing one.  This is contributing to the spread of the virus and may be the primary reason for the spike in new case.

4) President Trump was one of the few who didn't buy into the ersatz science of the mask wearing as a major factor in addressing the virus.  Instead he directed the resources of the US government to assist in the development and distribution of a new vaccine.  A real solution. This has been accomplished.  The history books will reflect that Trump was right and the dems like Cuomo completely bungled the response with their nonsense about lockdowns and masks that both destroyed the economy while having neglible impact on the virus.  Either out of sheer incompetence or political purposes or most likely both.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2725 on: December 04, 2020, 03:50:08 PM »
BS:

NYC has a lower death rate than Texas which is a COVID disaster.


 

That is completely and demonstrably false.  It's not even close.  The NY death rate per 100K people is 179  (ranks 2nd among all states).  By comparison in Texas it is only 73 (ranks 25th).  Thus, the death rate is approximately DOUBLE in NY!  NY is second only to its neighbor NJ in highest per capita number of deaths.   You should be ashamed to post such false information.  People are fleeing NY like it is on fire.  Where are they are going?  To places like Texas, Florida, and Georgia.  The same for California.  People and businesses are leaving for AZ and other republican controlled states.

 https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2726 on: December 04, 2020, 04:47:20 PM »
What could he possibly have learned that was new?  He was addressing the effectiveness of masks during the current pandemic.  He indicated they were a security blanket but did little good.  If he was wrong at that time, that is amazing incompetence for a person whose life experience was dealing with such situations.  So let us summarize:

1) Wearing a mask is better than not wearing a mask but has limited effectiveness.

2) The Dems vastly overstated the effectiveness of masks when it became clear that Trump was reluctant to wear one and was skeptical of the claims being made about them.  This allowed the Dems to falsely but effectively blame Trump for the deaths for political purposes.

3) Because the effectiveness of masks has been grossly overstated, many people have been led to conclude that they can safely return to their normal life and business just by wearing one.  This is contributing to the spread of the virus and may be the primary reason for the spike in new case.

4) President Trump was one of the few who didn't buy into the ersatz science of the mask wearing as a major factor in addressing the virus.  Instead he directed the resources of the US government to assist in the development and distribution of a new vaccine.  A real solution. This has been accomplished.  The history books will reflect that Trump was right and the dems like Cuomo completely bungled the response with their nonsense about lockdowns and masks that both destroyed the economy while having neglible impact on the virus.  Either out of sheer incompetence or political purposes or most likely both.


That is completely and demonstrably false.  It's not even close.  The NY death rate per 100K people is 179  (ranks 2nd among all states).  By comparison in Texas it is only 73 (ranks 25th).  Thus, the death rate is approximately DOUBLE in NY!  NY is second only to its neighbor NJ in highest per capita number of deaths.   You should be ashamed to post such false information.  People are fleeing NY like it is on fire.  Where are they are going?  To places like Texas, Florida, and Georgia.  The same for California.  People and businesses are leaving for AZ and other republican controlled states.

 https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

Yesterday alone we had a record high 216.000 infections and nearly 3.000 deaths and the numbers are rising, as predicted they would due to people ignoring good advice at Thanksgiving. Ever since the country opened up again, numbers have been going up, the infection is spreading faster than ever and thus reaching more vulnerable people more easily.

What is it going to take for you right wing nuts to accept reality and see what's happening as a result of your blatant ignorance?
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2727 on: December 04, 2020, 10:24:23 PM »

I just figured it out. Trump, Giuliani and his other lawyers are deep Democratic operatives, whose long-term mission is to:

1.   Get Republican voters to turn against Republican senators and congressmen.
2.   Get Republican voters to turn against Republican state legislatures.
3.   Get Republican voters to turn against Republican governors so they can be removed from office with the next election, or better yet, sooner, by removing them from office, or, if necessary, by other means.
4.   And if all else fails, get Republican voters not to bother voting as a method of protest and because the elections are rigged anyway.

It all fits with his parallel operations to reduce the number of Republicans by encouraging mass rallies without masks and teaching them to shout out chants.

And the latest having his lawyers stating that certain prominent Republicans should shot at dawn. Later, the lawyer explained that he was only joking. It didn’t have to be at dawn.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2020, 10:33:52 PM by Joe Elliott »

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