Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[Gerry Down]

Yesterday, the idiot in the White House tried to take credit for the vaccine, claiming that America was the first country to develop and have it in record speed. He kinda ignored that Pfizer developed it's vaccine outside the USA and England has been using it for a week already.

Weren't the russians the first ones to get a vaccine? Kinda like the whole sputnik thing all over again.

[Martin Weidmann]

Weren't the russians the first ones to get a vaccine? Kinda like the whole sputnik thing all over again.

They claimed they were, but I have not seen any evidence for it.

Regardless, in the Western world, Pfizer was the first one who had a vaccine. They developed it in England and distribute it from Belgium. The Trump administration was given an opportunity to pre-order it in the summer and they declined.

[Colin Crow]

The Trump vaccine has been approved.  Magnificent achievement.  A great day for America.

The product of Operation Warped Mind. Apparently many are saying Trump was victim of massive fraud in Belgian elections.

[Joe Elliott]

Here is a clue Joe....what country am I from?

I don't recall.

[Joe Elliott]

I would imagine that the Russian approval rating of Trump right now is off the charts.

[Colin Crow]

Generalise much? Please be so kind as to provide a definition of your understanding of a CT is.

To Joe, still waiting for a reply to this from a few days back. Maybe someone might be able to help you with my native country, or I could give you another clue.....it's an island contingent.

[Joe Elliott]

Generalise much? Please be so kind as to provide a definition of your understanding of a CT is.

To Joe, still waiting for a reply to this from a few days back. Maybe someone might be able to help you with my native country, or I could give you another clue.....it's an island contingent.

I don’t see all the posts, particularly on this topic which has so many.

Under my definition, a CTer is a believer in a Large-Secret-Enduring conspiracy. They could be called LSE-CTers.

So, I don’t include that those who believe in a conspiracy by the Jesse James gang to rob the Northfield Bank as LSE-CTers. A gang of 8 robbers could be expected to keep a secret and spring a surprise, un ineffective surprise, on a bank. A gang of 8,000 robbers would not be able to maintain the element of surprise.


Like a belief JFK was assassinated so the conspirators could steer the United States into the Vietnam War. Or some other very large goal.

Or the belief that the employees and programmers of Dominion Systems Software, thousands of poll workers, and thousands researching previous voters to forge ballots and signatures, along with various officials, often Republicans, conspired to steal the 2020 Election from Trump.

Sometimes JFK CTers deny believing in a large conspiracy, but I think that the vast majority of them do.


Someone might be a CTer about the JFK assassination but not the 2020 Election. Or someone might be a CTer about the 2020 Election but not the JFK assassination. The true skeptical thinkers are not CTers about either, or any other Large-Secret-Enduring conspiracy.


A few parallels between the JFK CTers and the 2020 Election CTers:
•   The JFK Conspirators allegedly revel the conspiracy in about as many ways as possible. Framing the wrong man who cannot shot well. Framing him with the wrong type of rifle. Using different types of rifles to commit the murder than the one they used to frame Oswald. Firing from directions that Oswald could not have been. Just to name a few.
The 2020 Election conspirators allegedly went overboard as well. Brought in Dominion Voting System company and employees. Thousands of poll workers, Thousands of others to research former voters and make fake ballots. Revealing the conspiracy in about as many ways as possible.

•   The use of fantastic probability calculations. This seems to appear to seem inherently convincing to people.
In the JFK conspiracy, the widely calculated odds, by the Sunday London Times, of a certain set of witnesses killed as one in one hundred trillion.
Or to a lesser extent, the odds of the 1963 Dictabelt recording matching the 1978 test firing recordings by one in one hundred thousand.
And now Trump saying that the odds of Biden overtaking Trump’s lead in all six states were:   “we're still talking about only 1-in-1 trillion odds of a sweep”.

Perhaps in the coming year we may learn of the mysterious deaths of a few Dominion Voting Systems employees and poll workers.



An island continent? That must be Australia.

And what is wood duck? I still don’t know. I would guess, from their range, a Canadian?

[Rick Plant]

You are still clueless. What those 18 states are suing for is to have done what should have been done from the outset: (1) to have the signatures on all mail-in ballots verified by standard/valid criteria and with bipartisan observers present, (2) to have all the ballots that were received after the legal deadlines disqualified, and (3) to have an independent forensic analysis done on the Dominion machines and software in conjunction with a forensic analysis of the tabulations done by those machines and software.

Yeah, I bet that if the Supreme Court followed the law and ordered those four states to take these reasonable actions, you would have left-wing thugs rioting in the streets because they don't care about honest elections and following the law.

I keep asking this, and I'll ask it again: How in the world do you explain the fact that in numerous key counties in those states, the mail-in ballot rejection rate was three, four, and as much as 12 times lower than the historical average, even though, for obvious reasons, we had far, far more mail-in ballots than in any previous election? As many data experts have pointed out, if the mail-in ballots in PA, MI, WI, and GA had been rejected at the average historical rate, Trump would have won. Give me a break.

 

So, Benedic.t Donald and his right wing thugs get to claim "voter fraud" without any evidence and that makes it so?

He was rejected in every single court including the Supreme Court twice. There was no "voter fraud". His stooge AG Bill Barr and all his people at DHS stated there was no voter fraud.

Benedic.t Donald was never going to win. He was losing in EVERY single national poll against Biden. His own internal polling showed it. He never had a lead in any poll in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Georgia was always close.

We knew for months he was going to fraudulently cry "fraud" and use his right wing courts to steal the election for him. That's why it was important to have a blowout victory. That's what Biden had and no court can overturn that large of a victory.

Benedic.t Donald and his stooge DeJoy purposely dismantled the Post Office to slow the mail so he could steal the election and that didn't work either.

These thugs were defeated soundly and the GOP showed themselves to be the Anti American seditious traitors we all know them to be.