Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[John Iacoletti]

There is also been a number of emails released from the laptop

Anybody can claim that they have an email that says anything. The reason reputable news outlets aren’t running with this is because Rudy & Co. would never allow this alleged hard drive from this alleged laptop to be examined directly.

[Richard Smith]

The laptop is in the possession of the FBI not Rudy.  LOL.   There is an ongoing federal investigation of Hunter and James Biden.  There is zero evidence to suggest it is the product of "Russian disinformation" whatever that is supposed to mean.  Imagine the plan at the Kremlin to drop off a laptop at some random computer store in Delaware using a Hunter-double, hope the proprietor noticed its contents etc.  What a laughable scenario.  But if there were validity to any Russian connection to the laptop, where is the confirmation from the federal investigators that it is a fake?  That itself would be a big story for the media to cover - actual Russian interference in the election.  But they want no part of it because it is Hunter's laptop and contains information that incriminates the entire Biden family. 

[Joe Elliott]

President Trump has called upon the Proud Boys and their allies to show up in Washington D. C. on January 6, promising things will be wild, i.e.: I’m counting on you guys to make it wild. It appears that Trump is under the delusion, I hope it’s a delusion, that the protesters, if wild enough, can be useful. Justify declaring Martial Law or something. Can the Washington D. C. police handle what might descend of them from large parts of the country?

What about the National Guard? As I understand it, the National Guard can be controlled by the President or the Governor. But there is no governor for Washington D. C. So that leaves President Trump. And it doesn’t sound like he wants law and order on that day.

However, in Washington D. C., the National Guard is currently under the command of the Commanding General of the District of Columbia National Guard, U. S. Major General William J. Walker. In what I see as a potentially a greater threat to Democracy than the 9/11 attacks, the greatest threat to Washington D. C. since July 1864, it is up to General Walker to ensure Congress can do its Constitutional duty on January 6. I hope that General Walker is as alert to threats as General Lew Wallace was in 1864. I’m sure he is. In any case, all leave should be cancelled for the Washington D. C. police and the National Guard units in the area.

[Allan Fritzke]

You seem to be pulling statement about Shokin being fired not at the same time that Hunter was on the Burisma board.  Did CNN tell you this or exactly where do you get this factual statement from.

No, the Ukraine Government confirmed that to European investigators and news outlets a long time ago.

You really need to get your information for more sources, as you seem to have lost any sense of reality.

Here is a fact check for you.  I will dig the information for you as you don't want back up your statement!   Maybe you don't believe the timeline stated in the NY Times?  Just posting to prove your disinformation on this one!

Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/10/us/politics/joe-biden-ukraine.html

“You have to be whiter than snow, or the whole world will abandon you,” Mr. Biden told the country’s newly elected president, Petro O. Poroshenko, during an early 2014 phone call, according to former administration officials.

That message was delivered just as Mr. Biden’s son Hunter joined the board of a Ukrainian gas company that was the subject of multiple corruption investigations, a position that paid him as much as $50,000 a month and — in the view of some administration officials, including the ambassador to Kiev — threatened to undermine Mr. Biden’s agenda.

The USA Today confirmed that Shokin was investigating Burisma for the period 2010-2012 in 2014 and was fired in 2016.   They have blended the article to make it look like he was investigating a prior period.    It was said he was investigating Burisma in a period from 2010-2012 interval and not the present when he was fired in 2016?   

Again, look at how USA Today misconstrues the facts and tries to cover.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/21/fact-check-joe-biden-leveraged-ukraine-aid-oust-corrupt-prosecutor/5991434002/

In 2014, Shokin had investigated Burisma for money laundering and tax irregularities, per USA TODAY.

The probe focused on 2010-12, according to the National Anti-Corruption Bureau.

Hunter Biden — who joined the board in 2014 and served on it until early 2019 — was not the subject of the investigation.

Sure Joe.  We needed to get rid of him because he was investigating Burisma.    There was no investigation of Hunter Biden!  It was a pay for play scheme.  He used his influence and quid pro quo for Hunter to receive $50,000/month from a company that was no longer under investigation because he got rid of the prosecutor!  Why do you think Hunter was hired?  His expertise or the influence of his father to stop an investigation into Bursima and its past corruption?  Pretty easy to piece that puzzle together when you see that Biden influenced the firing of Shokin and cleared Burisma of investigation - Quid Pro Joe!

You get your facts straight!  The firing of Shokin was in March 2016 and happened coincidentally at the time Hunter was receiving 50k/month on its board  beginning in 2014 and continued on  until 2019!    Biden used his influence  and was proud of it and of his son.  Devon Archer was also on the board and Joe went golfing with the two of them in August 2014. He claims he knows nothing of his son's dealings and how he was set up at Burisma by chance - blatant lies.

https://nypost.com/2019/10/01/joe-and-hunter-biden-golfed-with-ukraine-gas-executive-in-2014/

Joe says:

“I have never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings,” Biden said,

Hunter says:

Hunter told The New Yorker in July that he and his father had spoken about his overseas work “just once.”

I wonder where Devon Archer is now?  He was golfing with Joe in 2014 and was the business partner of Hunter and on same board - no conflicts!    Hmmm!

It is all a twisted story of deceit and lies!  See the relationship between John Kerry as well - what a swamp!

https://thefederalist.com/2020/09/23/records-show-john-kerry-lied-about-ignorance-of-hunter-bidens-lucrative-position-in-ukraine/

Wade told the committee investigators that he relayed to Kerry that the secretary’s stepson, Christopher Heinz’s, business partners Hunter Biden and Devon Archer both joined the board of Burisma but that Heinz had refrained from getting involved with the company. Below is a transcript of Wade’s interview with the Senate probe, emphasis theirs:

[Richard Smith]

President Trump has called upon the Proud Boys and their allies to show up in Washington D. C. on January 6, promising things will be wild, i.e.: I’m counting on you guys to make it wild. It appears that Trump is under the delusion, I hope it’s a delusion, that the protesters, if wild enough, can be useful. Justify declaring Martial Law or something. Can the Washington D. C. police handle what might descend of them from large parts of the country?

False.  Here is what Trump actually said:

Peter Navarro releases 36-page report alleging election fraud 'more than sufficient' to swing victory to Trump https://washex.am/3nwaBCe. A great report by Peter. Statistically impossible to have lost the 2020 Election. Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!

[Allan Fritzke]

I have no intention to continue this conversation. You're all over the place and in no way able to make a coherent point. On top of which you repeat already debunked lies.

Two examples;

We already have seen what happens in the ghettos of Paris where the Moslem people have set up shariah law and live in their own inner cities where you don't dare walk!

Total BS. Some idiot made this claim on Fox News a couple of years ago and none of it was true. I have an appartment in Paris and normally am there several times per year. The whole thing is a lie. There is no such thing as "no-go areas". But don't believe me, just watch the French telling you.

(*) Just in case you start attacking the Young Turks; I'm posting their version because I couldn't find the original video quickly enough. The fact that YT used the video does not devalue the information contained in it.

I stand corrected on that.  I respect that video you posted.   There are always things to learn and yes we do have some issues.   I did not back that statement that I made but I think most everything else I did in my statements.
   
I was biased and still am on that.   I worked in Algeria for over 5 years and traveled and stayed in Paris numerous times.   This was a time when "FIS" movement was there and people were getting their throats cut and acid thrown into the faces of young girls that refused to wear the hajib.   At least that is what the newspapers in Algeria were saying and what some of my workers were saying was occurring in their villages. I have no first hand knowledge.   Watching the Algerian workers working for me and their Moslem culture, it would not surprise me that you could set up pockets of shariah law in name in places like Marseille.  There system of justice is self administered and taken on by individuals - not by judge and jury!  Shariah law can have its courts but it is not limited to that and fundamentalists believe they can enforce the principles themselves.     

So yes I am a bit biased when it comes to separating cultures and believe in keeping these cultures/factions apart from our own.   Two of the men I worked with had their throats cut and heads taken - heads never found.   One French,  one Italian.   For me, these people can hide in the woodwork and become irrational rather quickly when concerning their religious fervor and radicalism and act on it.   I myself would rather sort out their problems within their own countries and borders rather than exporting refugees and their associated problems to the rest of the world.  If it means dividing the country up and keeping the parties away from each other - so be it.  That was initially what the UN was set up.  They are no longer peacekeepers as they once were set up to be.   That is my opinion.   

Unlike you, I will support fair speech and listen logically to all sides of every story before formulating my opinion and try supporting it with facts when I can and state opinion such as my last one but try to clarify.    I think Paris came to my head but I was thinking more of Marseille as a little more violent community where there are money more problems.   I still like the Mohammed Ali video and I think has huge merit.  I see major problems trying to integrate various religions and factions and have them all live in one big happy utopian city. We will see problems moving into all societies when both sides of warring parties move together into another country and continue the war. 

That is not good IMO!  If you want to be able to walk around without having to carry your own protection and security guard you had better isolate yourself by not introducing problems that negate your freedoms.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8871315/Syrian-ISIS-terrorist-stabbed-tourist-death-Germany-wanted-cut-Christians-tongues.html

[Steve M. Galbraith]

False.  Here is what Trump actually said:

Peter Navarro releases 36-page report alleging election fraud 'more than sufficient' to swing victory to Trump https://washex.am/3nwaBCe. A great report by Peter. Statistically impossible to have lost the 2020 Election. Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!

Richard: Trump's statements on the election are indefensible. Yes, he had the right in court to challenge the results, to claim that that elections laws were broken or violated (just as Gore did in a similar manner in 2000).

But he's gone way beyond that. The "be wild" phrase is inexcusable. We have a history of these right wing and leftwing groups going after each other. He has people suggesting to him that he declare martial law (based on what?) and that he order a seizure of the votes. These are the policies of a banana republic. He needs to tell those people who suggested that they need to leave the Oval Office, that such ideas are simply not acceptable. This is too much.

I agree that the criticism of him these past four years was often over the top and hysterical. But he's repeatedly engaged in reckless and irresponsible behavior. This is the president.

[Martin Weidmann]

The only thing Dominion can do is change their name again.  That seems to be the theme with these electronic voting system providers. They never stick with anything very long before someone else buys them out!

Really?

I hope Dominion ends up suiing Sydney Powell for everything she's got and more. She has it coming after manipulating millions of people into believing the elections were rigged without a shred of evidence to prove it.....

Happy Xmas Mrs Powell!