Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[Allan Fritzke]

Well, the facts that things are being manipulated all the time - latest being Jeffrey Epstein are all there.   He goes off suicide watch and ends up hanging himself in a a high security jail.  Come on man!   We see Seth Rich jogging and being gunned down by a random killer.   Vince Foster involved with Clintons dead in park.  Go back to having 2 Kennedy's both assassinated and saying that was happenstance.  Or really having someone knock off LHO so he couldn't talk. Go forward a couple of years to 1967 and look at David Ferrie who said he was going to end up dead when he was going to be investigated for the assassination.    Complete with suicide notes but the miraculous finding of the autopsy report said it actually was a natural death.   So he went to great lengths to write up suicide notes, only to have them rejected!    Even the anthrax scare where the expert (Dr. Bruce Ivins) ended up dead after investigating it and being blamed for it (double indemnity!).  Now do you understand how you can end up committing suicide with 2 bullets to the back of the head?

Society is becoming more and more Orwellian at each passing moment. 

George Orwell & 1984 Today in 2020

Andrew N. Rubin argues that "Orwell claimed that we should be attentive to how the use of language has limited our capacity for critical thought just as we should be equally concerned with the ways in which dominant modes of thinking have reshaped the very language that we use."[152]

The adjective "Orwellian" connotes an attitude and a policy of control by propaganda, surveillance, misinformation, denial of truth and manipulation of the past.

In Nineteen Eighty-Four, Orwell described a totalitarian government that controlled thought by controlling language, making certain ideas literally unthinkable.
Several words and phrases from Nineteen Eighty-Four have entered popular language.
 
"Newspeak" is a simplified and obfuscatory language designed to make independent thought impossible.
 
"Doublethink" means holding two contradictory beliefs simultaneously.

"Thought Police" are those who suppress all dissenting opinion.

"Prolefeed" is homogenised, manufactured superficial literature, film and music used to control and indoctrinate the populace through docility.

"Big Brother" is a supreme dictator who watches everyone.

[John Tonkovich]

Well, the facts that things are being manipulated all the time - latest being Jeffrey Epstein are all there.   He goes off suicide watch and ends up hanging himself in a a high security jail.  Come on man!   We see Seth Rich jogging and being gunned down by a random killer.   Vince Foster involved with Clintons dead in park.  Go back to having 2 Kennedy's both assassinated and saying that was happenstance.  Or really having someone knock off LHO so he couldn't talk. Go forward a couple of years to 1967 and look at David Ferrie who said he was going to end up dead when he was going to be investigated for the assassination.    Complete with suicide notes but the miraculous finding of the autopsy report said it actually was a natural death.   So he went to great lengths to write up suicide notes, only to have them rejected!    Even the anthrax scare where the expert (Dr. Bruce Ivins) ended up dead after investigating it and being blamed for it (double indemnity!).  Now do you understand how you can end up committing suicide with 2 bullets to the back of the head?

Society is becoming more and more Orwellian at each passing moment. 

George Orwell & 1984 Today in 2020

Andrew N. Rubin argues that "Orwell claimed that we should be attentive to how the use of language has limited our capacity for critical thought just as we should be equally concerned with the ways in which dominant modes of thinking have reshaped the very language that we use."[152]

The adjective "Orwellian" connotes an attitude and a policy of control by propaganda, surveillance, misinformation, denial of truth and manipulation of the past.

In Nineteen Eighty-Four, Orwell described a totalitarian government that controlled thought by controlling language, making certain ideas literally unthinkable.
Several words and phrases from Nineteen Eighty-Four have entered popular language.
 
"Newspeak" is a simplified and obfuscatory language designed to make independent thought impossible.
 
"Doublethink" means holding two contradictory beliefs simultaneously.

"Thought Police" are those who suppress all dissenting opinion.

"Prolefeed" is homogenised, manufactured superficial literature, film and music used to control and indoctrinate the populace through docility.

"Big Brother" is a supreme dictator who watches everyone.

Is this satire? Attire? Spare tire? 
Out there, where the busses don't run.

[Richard Smith]

A conspiracy is a bogus made up claim that you and your ilk believe to be true. This garbage you parrot has been debunked.

Want to see a REAL cokeheads? Cocaine Senior and Junior

A conspiracy is a "bogus made up claim"?  LOL.  Wrong.  That would be known as a "lie" or "falsehood."  A "conspiracy" means that more than one person must be involved in the act.  Because paranoid nuts like yourself have often made baseless conspiracy claims - like a conspiracy to assassinate JFK - a conspiracy claim is often bogus but that is not the definition of a conspiracy.  There was a conspiracy to assassinate President Lincoln, for example. 

[Allan Fritzke]

Just the facts!    As an example, you just want to say that somebody set up a "set" and had 5 people counting votes after dragging them out from under the table!   Keep your head in the sand is fine by me!

Fact or fiction.   Fauci takes the vaccine in his left arm but later points to just having a little pain on the right arm.  I guess somebody made that up too!  Likely photo op'ed it somehow which was likely - too funny!

https://twitter.com/veritasnewsfeed/status/1342085913782923269

[Joe Elliott]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/one-ga-country-just-completed-a-signature-match-audit-of-absentee-ballots-that-trump-claimed-will-prove-election-manipulation-and-found-zero-fraudulent-votes/ar-BB1ckv8K?ocid=msedgntp

One GA Country Just Completed a Signature Match Audit of Absentee Ballots That Trump Claimed Will Prove Election Manipulation — And Found Zero Fraudulent Votes

Over 5 million ballots manually recounted, and no massive fraud found. Over 150,000 absentee ballots in Cobb County in Georgia, compared records of signatures, and found no massive voter fraud.

But yes, I know, it’s foolish of me to believe that presenting the facts are going to change the minds of the true believers. They absolutely know that there were hundreds of programmers in on the secret and who tweaked the software so that Biden would win. That there were thousands, again, working in secret, who made bogus mail in ballots.

Simple logic, even without evidence, should tell one that there was no massive secret conspiracy. And in addition, the evidence shows that there was no such Large-Secret plot.

Of course, Allan will insist, no doubt, is that we should not concentrate on the 5,000,000 ballots that were manually recounted, but on the 145,000,000 that were not. We should not concentrate on the 150,000 ballots that were checked for signatures, but the millions that were not. But no explanation, on how in advance, the conspirators knew which counties and which states to run their schemes in and which ones to pass over.

Having a good skeptical mindset, to be skeptical of Large-Secret-Enduring conspiracies, is the best way to remain a loyal citizen of a Democracy. To not readily adopt bogus election steal theories, to maintain one’s belief in Democracy, to not to try to assist the overturn of a valid election or perhaps prone to join some large secret scheme, bound to fail, on stealing back the next election.

[Joe Elliott]

Question for anyone:

Is there anyone here who believes that if Trump were elected in 2024, he won’t be totally focused on ensuring the election goes his way in 2028? Except instead of having only two months to rig the election results, he will have a full four years to get the job done. I doubt he could concentrate on many other tasks.


"People receive the government they deserve."

A quote said by Benjamin Franklin or sang by Alexander Hamilton. In any case, a true quote.

[Joe Elliott]

It’s been two weeks since Michael Griffith has posted anything here. I wonder if he finally concluded that this forum has too many left-wing nuts who can’t accept the obvious truth that the election was stolen from Trump.

 

[Rick Plant]

Richard Smith is a strong Trump supporter. And I do not like Trump at all. But I don’t see anything in Richard Smith’s posts that indicate that he is a Large-Secret-Enduring Conspiracy Theorist (LSE-CT), for any conspiracy.

Michael Griffith and Allan Fritzke are clearly LSE-CTers. They support that thousands of people secretly made millions of bogus mail-in ballots. And that hundreds of programmers coded the election software to throw the election. These are clearly Large-Secret-Enduring Conspiracy Theories. I hear many parrots over and over again that Richard Smith is a CTer. And perhaps he is. I have not gone over all his posts.

Being a supporter of Trump is very likely wrong. Totally wrong, in my opinion, now that Trump is clearly trying to overturn a popular election. And Richard believes Hunter Biden committed some crime may very well be wrong. But I don’t see how either belief makes Richard a CTer for any LSE-CT.

Question:

Any anyone show a post which shows Richard Smith is an LSE-CTer?


By the way, the worst action any President can undertake, short of nuclear war, is overturning a Presidential Election. It is the classic action of a would-be dictator. No other President, Andrew Johnson, Richard Nixon, Andrew Jackson, none of them, comes within an order of magnitude, as being as bad a president as Trump. For his actions and statements during the last two months alone, he is by far the worst. I don’t see how anyone can still support him for 2024, unless one feels we need a President for Life. Which is what Trump would devote himself to doing if he is somehow elected in 2024.

Richard has been posting disinformation, propaganda, and conspiracy theories for months regarding politics and COVID-19.