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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3032 on: December 30, 2020, 07:56:25 AM »
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A conspiracy is a "bogus made up claim"?  LOL.  Wrong.  That would be known as a "lie" or "falsehood."  A "conspiracy" means that more than one person must be involved in the act.  Because paranoid nuts like yourself have often made baseless conspiracy claims - like a conspiracy to assassinate JFK - a conspiracy claim is often bogus but that is not the definition of a conspiracy.  There was a conspiracy to assassinate President Lincoln, for example.

Looks like your orange messiah will be indicted even sooner.

NY prosecutor hires forensic accounting firm as probe of Trump escalates
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/12/29/nation/ny-prosecutor-hires-forensic-accounting-firm-probe-trump-escalates/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3033 on: December 30, 2020, 08:10:53 AM »
Here's a moron that didn't take COVID-19 seriously by refusing to wear a mask and held indoor political events with large gatherings. He said we "need to learn to live with the virus", he attacked stay at home orders and officials that are trying to keep people safe and alive. Now he's dead at 41 years of age and he had no medical conditions. Another case that debunks the bogus right wing claim that "young people are immune to COVID-19" and "People under 65 can't die from the virus". All this idiot had to do was wear a mask and refrain from holding dangerous events and he would still be alive right now.  Another phony right wing "Pro Lifer" proves he wasn't "Pro Life". Probably the same idiot that mocked Joe Biden for staying at home and not holding dangerous superspreader events.         


Louisiana GOP Congressman-elect Luke Letlow dies of COVID before taking office
https://www.rawstory.com/gop-congressman-elect-letlow/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3034 on: December 30, 2020, 06:05:04 PM »

Richard has been posting disinformation, propaganda, and conspiracy theories for months regarding politics and COVID-19.   

Is there any particular post of his you can point out that would show this? Not posting disinformation or propaganda. But of a Large-Secret-Enduring Conspiracy of some sort that he believes in.

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Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3035 on: December 30, 2020, 06:08:29 PM »

Here's a moron that didn't take COVID-19 seriously by refusing to wear a mask and held indoor political events with large gatherings. He said we "need to learn to live with the virus", he attacked stay at home orders and officials that are trying to keep people safe and alive. Now he's dead at 41 years of age and he had no medical conditions. Another case that debunks the bogus right wing claim that "young people are immune to COVID-19" and "People under 65 can't die from the virus". All this idiot had to do was wear a mask and refrain from holding dangerous events and he would still be alive right now.  Another phony right wing "Pro Lifer" proves he wasn't "Pro Life". Probably the same idiot that mocked Joe Biden for staying at home and not holding dangerous superspreader events.         


Louisiana GOP Congressman-elect Luke Letlow dies of COVID before taking office
https://www.rawstory.com/gop-congressman-elect-letlow/

I didn’t find a quote from Luke Letlow about "need to learn to live with the virus".

While Republicans, in general (though not this Republican or I should say former Republican), have set bad examples for dealing with COVID-19, was Luke Letlow particularly bad in this regard?

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3036 on: December 30, 2020, 08:06:01 PM »
Richard has been posting disinformation, propaganda, and conspiracy theories for months regarding politics and COVID-19.   

“Richard” has likewise been posting disinformation and propaganda about the JFK assassination for years.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3037 on: December 30, 2020, 08:07:59 PM »
Is there any particular post of his you can point out that would show this? Not posting disinformation or propaganda. But of a Large-Secret-Enduring Conspiracy of some sort that he believes in.

You don’t think claims of a “rigged” election or a Hunter Biden coverup qualify as conspiracy theories?

Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3038 on: December 30, 2020, 11:31:21 PM »

You don’t think claims of a “rigged” election or a Hunter Biden coverup qualify as conspiracy theories?

I’ve seen posts by Michael T. Griffith and Allan Fritzke about the rigged election. I have not seen a post from Richard Smith about this. But there again, I haven’t gone through all 300 some pages of posts on this subject so I don’t know. But if there is a post about a rigged election by Richard Smith, I would like someone to provide a link to it, or at least say what page number it is on and the date and time the post was made.

I haven’t followed the Hunter Biden laptop case at all. I heard that one “investigator” tried to steer a witness into finding involvement from his father. So, I get the impression that this Hunter Biden laptop investigation is bogus. But I haven’t really looked into it. And I don’t know if the people, or all the people, who think Hunter Biden’s laptop has incriminating information on it are believers in a Large-Secret-Enduring conspiracy theory. Clearly that is true for the “rigged election” hypotheses, but I don’t know about the Hunter Biden laptop accusations.

I suspect there are some JFK LNers who do believe in some other LSE-CT. And perhaps Richard is one of them. But I suspect that beliefs in other LSE-CT is more common among the JFK CTers than the JFK LNers.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3039 on: December 31, 2020, 12:02:21 AM »

A point I would like to make about the 2020-Rigged-Election hypothesis, is that believers in this have no problem finding lots of witnesses who back them up. They find all sorts of witnesses who observed all sorts of shenanigans like multiple counting of the same ballots or bringing out “hidden suitcases” (really normal ballot containers kept under tables but in plain sight the whole time). Hard to believe because this conspiracy would involve thousands of people. But when the ballots are recounted manually, the machine counts and the manual counts are very close. The physical evidence, the ballots, show that all these witnesses are wrong. One of the parallels in the JFK assassination case is Oswald’s shooting ability. CTers have no problem of finding witnesses who testify that they were in the Marine boot camp and witness how terrible a shot Oswald was but they waved him through after his first failed firing test. Hard to believe because Marines are big sticklers for teaching recruits how to shoot straight and if a recruit can’t shoot straight, they will train him again and again, while using certain “physical encouragement” techniques until he damm well does shoot straight. Until then, life can become uncomfortable if they think you are not trying. And again, all this testimony contradicts the physical evidence, Oswald’s Marine shooting score book that shows he not only passed, he did better than most recruits who only qualify as ‘Marksman’. Oswald qualified for the next higher category, ‘Sharpshooter’. And Oswald’s mother held onto to his Marine shooting score book starting in 1956. Where they making fake evidence that Oswald was a good shooter back in 1956?

2020-Rigged-Election hypothesis said there are all these suspicion connections with Dominion Voting Systems with Venezuela and other countries. But again, the physical evidence, the manual recounting of over 5,000,000 ballots, show the software was accurate. Again, lots of parallels in the JFK case is all the connections one finds with Ruby and the Mafia, Ruby with the CIA, Ruby with Oswald, and various other characters who crossed paths with Oswald’s alleged connections with the CIA. Bogus conspiracy theorists have no problem finding desired connections in either case.

2020-Rigged-Election hypothesis said that many of the mail in ballots were mass produced. But, again, this hypothesis is countered by the physical evidence. A county in Georgia compared the signatures on all 150,000 mail in ballots and found they corresponded with the signatures on file. But I suppose they can argue that in the meantime, the swapped out the original bogus ballots and swapped in high quality forgeries. Just like all the planted evidence in the JFK case. CE-399, bullet fragments, bogus autopsy, fake palmprint, fake paperwork, fake photographs, fake film.

There are many strong parallels between the 2020-Rigged-Election CTers and the JFK CTers. I don’t see a big difference between the two groups.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3039 on: December 31, 2020, 12:02:21 AM »