Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[Martin Weidmann]

No, there was a guy here who used to pretend his name was Roger.  But he wasn't any friend of mine.  More of a dunce.  He was a rude contrarian who took issue with every piece of evidence against Oswald but refused to admit he was a CTer.  Can you imagine?

Aha, so the guy is a bit of an obsession for you? Got it! But just out of curiosity, unless you know his actual name, how do you know he "used to pretend his name was Roger"?

who took issue with every piece of evidence against Oswald but refused to admit he was a CTer.

So, let me try to understand this. If somebody takes issue with the "evidence against Oswald" provided by the WC, but has no opinion, nor cares, beyond that, he is still a CTer in your mind?

Oh yeah, and before I forget, who are "they" again?

[Joe Elliott]

My hopes for this week.

Starting on Tuesday, they are able to determine, before the day is out, that both Republican candidates lost. And lost by as wide as margin as possible. If I lived in Georgia, I would want to send a message. The strongest message I could. Turn control of the Senate, as well as the House, over to the Democrats. To let them know that I am enormously upset with them, for trying to overturn an election. With bogus claims that never stand up to manual recounts (over 5,000,000 in the country, mostly in Georgia) or to signature checks of mail in ballots (150,000 in one Georgia country). Once these checks failed to find anything, it was time to stop the malarky. They haven’t stopped the malarky. So, it is time to send them a message.

I can’t believe that all Georgia Republicans are mindless Trump fans. Some of them must be upset about this. If five per cent of the Republicans in Georgia take action, that should more than kill to chances of both Republican candidates, both of whom have fully backed Trumps efforts to overturn a valid election. I’m leaving the party in any case. Too many Senate and House members are supporting this for me to stay. But if Georgia lets me down, I know I am making the right choice.

I don’t care if 99 per cent of the Senate and House members who are going along with this are just going through the motions. They have no intention of really seeing Trump prevail. Pretending Is still unacceptable. It undermines the public’s trust in elections. They seem to think that holding their office, or maybe taking the next step up, is more important than maintaining the people’s faith in fair elections. Men have died to uphold the principles of Democracy, at Omaha Beach and other places. These politicians are more important than them? I will use my vote, from here on out, to frustrate them. Ted Cruz, Josh Hawley, Tommy Tuberville, and a host of others, will never get my vote if they run for President or Vice President. I will vote for Bernie Sanders if I have to.

I would love it if many congressmen come to realize by Tuesday evening, that they may have made a serious mistake. It’s probably only a pipe dream, but we shall see.

[John Iacoletti]

They don't call him "Dishonest" John for nothing.

“They” don’t, Lying “Richard”. Just you.

My characterization was completely accurate. You said more than once that the election laws were changed to give Democrats an advantage, using covid as a cover, and that if they had not been then Trump would have won in a landslide. It’s patent nonsense, and kooky conspiracy theory nonsense at that.

[John Iacoletti]

Aha, so the guy is a bit of an obsession for you? Got it! But just out of curiosity, unless you know his actual name, how do you know he "used to pretend his name was Roger"?

“Richard” likes to make things up and pretend they are true. That’s why they call him Lying “Richard”.

Pretty ironic that a guy calling himself “Richard Smith” would be accusing other people of using fake names.

[John Iacoletti]

I don’t care if 99 per cent of the Senate and House members who are going along with this are just going through the motions. They have no intention of really seeing Trump prevail. Pretending Is still unacceptable. It undermines the public’s trust in elections. They seem to think that holding their office, or maybe taking the next step up, is more important than maintaining the people’s faith in fair elections. Men have died to uphold the principles of Democracy, at Omaha Beach and other places. These politicians are more important than them? I will use my vote, from here on out, to frustrate them. Ted Cruz, Josh Hawley, Tommy Tuberville, and a host of others, will never get my vote if they run for President or Vice President. I will vote for Bernie Sanders if I have to.

If Joe Elliott and I never agree on anything else, we agree on this.

[John Iacoletti]

There were something like 80 million votes for Old Joe.  A person who largely decided not to campaign.  A frail, old white guy who has run for president several times and never generated more than one percent of the democrat votes before dropping out of those races.  But suddenly he receives more votes than Reagan, JFK, Clinton, Obama or anyone who ever ran?  LOL.  And not by a small margin.  He exceeded Obama - a wildly popular and dynamic candidate - by something like 15 million votes.  Was it "fraud"?  Maybe not.  But the change to mail in voting was a significant alteration of the election process.   

Those changes demonstrably favored Old Joe and he would have lost in a landslide if most most states had not used the pandemic as an excuse to fundamentally change the election process in a way that most favored the dems.  Old Joe received 60-90% of the mail in votes.  And the CDC and Fauci - those trusted "scientists" dems love so much - both confirmed that it was safe to vote in person.  There was no health-related reason to change the established voting requirements.  That was done for purely political purposes as were many decisions made during the pandemic.   But that is water under the bridge. I've never seen winners cry so much.  Old Joe won.  Enjoy four years of nothing getting done, the economy collapsing under higher taxes, and rampant crime.  When it is all over in 2024 just blame the failures on the republicans like Obama did.

[John Iacoletti]

Wrong.  Biden got more black votes in Philadelphia than Obama.  Remember him?  The first black President.  Do you think that a 78-year old white guy with a record of imprisoning blacks for nonviolent crimes is more popular in the black community than Obama?  It is ridiculous.   Mail in voting is a tactic that the dems have been pushing for years.   They used the virus as an excuse to do so despite the  CDC and Fauci confirming that in person voting was perfectly safe.   The results show that decided the election.  Old Joe had something like two-thirds of the mail in votes while winning several swing states by one percent or less.  If the election had occurred as normal in those states, Trump would have won by a landslide.

[Joe Elliott]

Senators who are backing Trump’s efforts to overturn the popular election:

Ted Cruz of Texas
Ron Johnson of Wisconsin
James Lankford of Oklahoma
Steve Daines of Montana
John Kennedy of Louisiana
Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee
Mike Braun of Indiana
Cynthia Lummis of Wyoming
Roger Marshall of Kansas
Bill Hagerty of Tennessee
Tommy Tuberville of Alabama.

Record their names. Vote against them at every opportunity. For the senate, for governor, if you are from their state. For President or Vice President if they run for that office.