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Offline Allan Fritzke

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3312 on: January 15, 2021, 01:14:20 AM »
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I don't know much about the tabloid rawstory everyone keeps on referencing on this site, I don't see them in the list.  I assume it is another Vanity Fair and one of those high-risk domains visited!
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Raw_Story

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The Raw Story has been reported on and featured in The New York Times, The Guardian, LA Weekly, the New York Post, the Toronto Star, The Hill, Rolling Stone, The Advocate, Roll Call,[3] and Mother Jones.[4] With an average 10.7 million readers per month (2015),[5] the site is described by Newsweek as, "Muck, raked: If you're looking for alleged GOP malfeasance, the folks at rawstory.com are frequently scooping the mainstream media."[6]

Who could trust Forbes and their opinion!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherelliott/2019/02/21/these-are-the-real-fake-news-sites/?sh=5cf35ab43c3e

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These are the most fake news sites

Among the news site rankings, there are a few surprises. The top news site, for example, is not a national newspaper or a computer-security site but has still managed to draw a record 52 "high risk" domains, according to DomainTools. The "safest" of the sites also fits the same description.

Here's the list of publishers with the most high-risk domains:

1. Newsday (52 historical high-risk domains)

2. The New York Times (49 historical high-risk domains)

3. The Washington Post (20 historical high-risk domains)

4. The New York Post (16 historical high-risk domains)

5. Los Angeles Times (13 historical high-risk domains)

6. New York Daily News (10 historical high-risk domains)

7. USA Today (9 historical high-risk domains)

8. The Boston Globe (6 historical high-risk domains)

9. CSO (5 historical high-risk domains)

10. Chicago Tribune (5 historical high-risk domains)

The man that wrote this column reached an interesting concusion:

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Roughly one-third of my readers said they don't trust any mainstream media outlets, including all the ones for which I write. Ouch. Another third only trusts established mainstream media outlets like this one. And the balance reflected the sentiments of Patricia Seward, a retired health care executive from Kansas City.

"I don’t trust any of the news outlets," she says.

In other words, the DomainTools research, while interesting, is unlikely to change the highly polarized view of the news media in the United States.
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Offline Allan Fritzke

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3313 on: January 15, 2021, 01:31:05 AM »
I imagine we should add this news source to the list of fake news outlets as well.    I  mentioned this BLM Utah leader a few posts ago that he was part of the crowd.   He was present when Ahsli Babbitt was martyred.  These guys are probably just making it up that he was arrested!

https://www.theepochtimes.com/black-lives-matter-activist-who-stormed-capitol-on-jan-6-arrested-charged_3657333.html

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The Black Lives Matter activist who was seen storming the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 was charged, the Department of Justice said Thursday.

A new court filing says John Earle Sullivan, 26, told FBI agents last week that he was at the Capitol when the breach happened. He said he entered through a window that had been broken out. He also said he was present when Ashli Babbitt, an Air Force veteran, was shot dead by a U.S. Capitol Police officer as she tried to climb into the House Speaker’s Lobby through a window.

Sullivan showed agents some of the footage he captured inside the building, which he and others entered illegally.

Videos showed Sullivan and others breaking through a barricade, with the Utah man shouting: “There are so many people. Let’s go. This [Expletive] is ours! [Expletive] yeah. We accomplished this [expletive]. We did this together. [Expletive] yeah! We are all a part of this history. Let’s burn this [Expletive] down.”

He was later heard encouraging protesters to climb a wall to get to an entrance to the Capitol and was seen entering the building.

During one conversation with others while inside, Sullivan said, “We gotta get this [expletive] burned.” At other times, he said, among other things, “it’s our house [expletive]” and “we are getting this [expletive].”
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Sullivan told U.S. Capitol Police officers to stand down so that they wouldn’t get hurt, according to the court filing. He joined the crowd trying to open doors to another part of the Capitol, telling people “Hey guys, I have a knife” and asking them to let him get to the front. He did not make it to the doors. He later tried to get the officers guarding the Speaker’s Lobby to go home, telling them: “Bro, I’ve seen people out there get hurt.”
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3314 on: January 15, 2021, 03:44:49 AM »
I don't know much about the tabloid rawstory everyone keeps on referencing on this site, I don't see them in the list.  I assume it is another Vanity Fair and one of those high-risk domains visited!
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Raw_Story

Who could trust Forbes and their opinion!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherelliott/2019/02/21/these-are-the-real-fake-news-sites/?sh=5cf35ab43c3e

The man that wrote this column reached an interesting concusion:

You assume wrong coming from the guy who posts links from the discredited and far right rag Epoch Times.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3315 on: January 15, 2021, 03:48:16 AM »
I imagine we should add this news source to the list of fake news outlets as well.    I  mentioned this BLM Utah leader a few posts ago that he was part of the crowd.   He was present when Ahsli Babbitt was martyred.  These guys are probably just making it up that he was arrested!

https://www.theepochtimes.com/black-lives-matter-activist-who-stormed-capitol-on-jan-6-arrested-charged_3657333.html

The Epoch Times is a Q conspiracy newspaper that is totally discredited. No surprise that's where Mr. Fritzke gets his conspiracies from. China Don must be proud.

Trump, QAnon and an impending judgment day: Behind the Facebook-fueled rise of The Epoch Times
Started almost two decades ago with a stated mission to “provide information to Chinese communities to help immigrants assimilate into American society,” The Epoch Times now wields one of the biggest social media followings of any news outlet.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-qanon-impending-judgment-day-behind-facebook-fueled-rise-epoch-n1044121


VERIFY: Unsolicited 'The Epoch Times' paper spreads outlandish COVID-19 claims
https://www.abc10.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/verify-unsolicited-paper-spreads-outlandish-covid-claims/103-9290495e-a501-44fa-b7df-0bb0e385328b
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3316 on: January 15, 2021, 06:04:09 AM »
Now I am even more sure that coincidence explains things better than a Masonic-like Theory.

I never heard tell of the Epoch Times until a few hours ago when a "sample" issue appeared in my mailbox. It's a weekly (in this case, out of Toronto and heavy on China xenophobia, if not racism) that wants you to pay $3 or $4 per issue to read its lies.

Kind of like those in Canada who have to subscribe to a cable "package" to get Fox News. Or the Ultra-Right/NeoFacist chumps in the States who send Trump and Manafort money.

Quite a few of the Q-nuts on Twitter tweet garbage from this conspiracy rag so I'm familiar with it. This is Chinese propaganda and disinformation being pushed for Trump.   

Some of my relatives who are spread out all over the country also received the "free sample" paper. They thought it was a new local paper until they read all the b.s. published in it. It appears the Epoch Times are looking for new subscribers aka suckers as they peddle their disinformation nationally.   

Here's more info on this crap publication that peddles conspiracies for China Don. So much for the "liberal media".


The Epoch Times

The Epoch Times is a far-right international multi-language newspaper and media company affiliated with the Falun Gong new religious movement, based in Midtown Manhattan. The newspaper is part of the Epoch Media Group, which also operates New Tang Dynasty (NTD) Television. The Epoch Times has websites accessible from 35 countries but is blocked in mainland China.

The Epoch Times promotes far-right politicians in Europe and backs Donald Trump in the U.S.

A 2019 report by NBC News showed it to be the second-largest funder of pro-Trump Facebook advertising after the Trump campaign. The Epoch Media Group's news sites and YouTube channels have spread conspiracy theories such as QAnon and anti-vaccine misinformation.

The Epoch Times has championed Donald Trump's Spygate conspiracy theory in its news coverage and advertising, and the Epoch Media Group's Edge of Wonder videos on YouTube have spread the far-right, pro-Trump QAnon conspiracy theories.

During the February 2020 Iowa Democratic Caucuses, The Epoch Times shared viral disinformation from the conservative group Judicial Watch that falsely alleged inflated voter rolls. The claim, which went viral on Facebook, was debunked by fact checkers and the Iowa secretary of state. A Harvard media expert quoted by NBC News said The Epoch Times employed a "classic disinformation tactic" known as "trading up the chain," in which false stories are repackaged and shared.

After Trump was defeated by Joe Biden in the 2020 presidential election, The Epoch Times produced a 93-minute video that falsely suggested widespread fraud in the counting; one interviewee, Lin Wood, falsely alleged that China had bought an American election vendor. Versions of the video on YouTube, the Epoch Times website and NTD were viewed hundreds of thousands of times.

During a six-month period in 2019, The Epoch Times spent more than $1.5 million on about 11,000 Facebook ads that NBC News said were "pro-Trump advertisements." NBC said the amount spent was more than any group except the Trump campaign itself. Political ad spending on Facebook in April 2019 through an account called "Coverage of the Trump Presidency by The Epoch Times" exceeded any politician's spending except Trump and Democrat Joe Biden. Journalist Judd Legum wrote in May 2019 that The Epoch Times ads were "boosting Donald Trump and floating conspiracy theories about Joe Biden."

In October 2019, the fact-checking website Snopes reported that The Epoch Times is closely linked to a large network of Facebook pages and groups called The BL (The Beauty of Life) that shares pro-Trump views and conspiracy theories such as QAnon. The BL has spent at least $510,698 on Facebook advertising. Hundreds of the ads were removed for violations of Facebook's advertising rules. The BL network of pages has 28 million followers on Facebook in total, according to Snopes.

The New York Times reported that The BL had used fake profile photos generated by artificial intelligence. The Atlantic Council Digital Forensic Research Lab director Graham Brookie said the coordinated network of fake accounts demonstrated "an eerie, tech-enabled future of disinformation." Facebook's head of security policy, Nathaniel Gleicher, said, "What's new here is that this is purportedly a U.S.-based media company leveraging foreign actors posing as Americans to push political content. We've seen it a lot with state actors in the past."

The Epoch Times is identified as spreading misinformation related to the COVID-19 pandemic in print and via social media including Facebook and YouTube. It has promoted anti-China rhetoric and conspiracy theories around the coronavirus outbreak, for example through an 8-page special edition called "How the Chinese Communist Party Endangered the World", which was distributed unsolicited in April 2020 to mail customers in areas of the United States, Canada, and Australia. In the newspaper, the SARS-CoV-2 virus is known as the "CCP virus", and a commentary in the newspaper posed the question, "is the novel coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan an accident occasioned by weaponizing the virus at that [Wuhan P4 virology] lab?" The paper's editorial board also claimed that COVID-19 patients can potentially be cured by "condemning the CCP."

The misinformation tracker NewsGuard called the French page of The Epoch Times one of the "super-spreaders" of COVID-19 misinformation on Facebook, citing an Epoch Times article that suggested the virus was artificially created. NewsGuard later changed the rating of the English edition of The Epoch Times from green to red.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3317 on: January 15, 2021, 10:08:30 AM »
LOL.  Then what did he mean?  He said the Capitol police had a "double standard" for their treatment of Trump protestors and BLM protestors.  A "double standard" based on the race of the protestors.  That is a text book definition of being racist.  Of course China Joe doesn't believe that.  He is an old school segregationist who was chums with members of the KKK as "Fee-dom" Harris has pointed out.  He was just reading something that someone wrote on his teleprompter because the Dems have to twist a racist narrative into every event.

Your messiah can't even read from a teleprompter. The fact is current and former cops were arrested for being in the insurrection and the Capitol police let them in. 

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3318 on: January 15, 2021, 10:19:38 AM »
The border wall is "ineffective" because some people are trying to saw through it?  What would they be doing if it wasn't there?  Pouring through unobstructed.  That is some logic you are using.  Are you Jim Acosta's dumber brother?  And it is exactly the same principle.  Obviously, no wall is full proof but a wall does provide protection which is why there is a wall around Nancy's multi-million dollar mansion and now the Capitol.

Poor gullible Richard has fully bought into the maga propaganda and got nothing out of it. He believed in a false prophet and ended up being conned by a serial con artist.

Richard thought a "big beautiful wall" was going to be built from California to Texas all paid for by Mexico. Instead he got a few miles of wall from money Trump stole from the military. Basically it was reinforcement fencing that smugglers still were able to get through. A total and epic failure.     

It is not the same principle. If your violent maga mob wasn't out to harm elected leaders then there wouldn't be any need for it.

Benedict Donal.d is an epic failure and destroyed America.


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https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/01/11/rex-tillerson-interview-trump/



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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3319 on: January 15, 2021, 11:56:02 AM »
I don’t get it. What does Rudy Giuliani get out of all this anyway?

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