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Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3976 on: April 19, 2021, 04:09:05 AM »
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In a nutshell. Elle columnist E. Jean Carroll accuses Donald Trump of making a sexual assault back in the 1990’s. Trump denies this and claims he never had sexual relations with her, never met her and she really was not his type. Ms. Carroll claims she has a black dress with Trump’s DNA on it.

Determining the truth is simple. Compare Trump’s DNA with the DNA on the dress.

If Ms. Carroll refuses, for any reason, to submit the black dress for DNA analysis, then I will conclude that she is lying. If Trump refuses, for any reason, to give a sample of his blood for DNA analysis, then I will conclude Trump is lying.

My guess of the probable truth? Ms. Carroll is very credible. I think she is telling the truth and Trump is lying. What is likely to happen? Trump will refuse to hand over a DNA sample. Better to have millions think you are lying than to have millions know you are lying and having it scientifically proven you are lying.

It should be noted that Trump has foolishly painted himself into a corner. A common rapist’s defense is to admit that, yes, they did have a sexual encounter, but it was by mutual consent. DNA tests can never determine the truth or falsehood of that. But by saying he never had sexual relations with her, he never met her, she was not really his type, he has made a major mistake, if guilty. A pattern of believing he can get away with any lie may have gotten him into trouble.

The Department of Justice, under the Trump administration, has been defending Trump from his charge. President Biden should put a stop to that. This charge was not related to any actions he took as part of his Presidential duties. He should have to defend himself like any other private individual.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3977 on: April 20, 2021, 05:44:29 PM »
I find it as hard to believe that Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick died of natural causes as I would find it hard to believe that George Floyd died of natural causes. This finding will unfortunately result in much lesser sentences for Julian Elie Khater and George Pierre Tanios for using bear spray against the Capitol Police, including officer Sicknick. I can’t believe the bear spray was not responsible for the officer’s subsequent stroke, blood clot and death.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3978 on: April 20, 2021, 08:09:19 PM »
Awaiting the verdict of the Derek Chauvin trial. As clear a case demanding a guilty verdict as any I have seen. And it appears the trial has not gone too well for the Defense. But I fear all that is likely irrelevant. What is relevant is the mindset of the individual jurors. Did they go in with an open mind or were they looking for excuses to find him guilty, or not guilty. I don’t think a not guilty verdict is likely but I would not be surprised to get a hung jury. One bad and determined juror can make that happen.

Relation to Trump? I think it is clear that Chauvin has the sort of mindset of many Trump supporters and a single strong supporter of Trump on the jury can mess things up.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3979 on: April 27, 2021, 11:04:38 PM »
Trump Dragged Closer to Testifying in Protesters’ Suit Accusing His Guards of Assault
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-dragged-closer-to-testifying-in-protesters-suit-accusing-his-guards-of-assault

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3980 on: April 28, 2021, 03:09:57 PM »
Here's the real fake news exposed again....the New York Post rag and Faux Propaganda

NY Post reporter who penned fake article on Kamala Harris’ book says she was ‘ordered’ to write it
https://www.rawstory.com/ny-post-reporter-who-penned-fake-article-on-kamala-harris-book-says-she-was-ordered-to-write-it/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3981 on: April 28, 2021, 11:42:59 PM »
Not looking too good for old Rudy.  :D

Rudy Giuliani's home, office searched by federal agents as part of lobbying probe, sources tell ABC News
Sources say Giuliani's electronic devices were confiscated by authorities

https://abcnews.go.com/US/rudy-giulianis-home-office-searched-federal-agents-part/story?id=77368884

FBI seizes electronics from Rudy Giuliani's Manhattan apartment
https://abc7ny.com/politics/fbi-seizes-electronics-from-rudy-giulianis-nyc-apartment/10556451/

A grand jury has been impaneled in the federal investigation into Rudy Giuliani
https://www.businessinsider.com/grand-jury-has-been-impaneled-the-federal-investigation-into-giuliani-2021-4

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3982 on: April 29, 2021, 11:40:47 PM »
'Rudy's an idiot' who 'drinks too much': Michael Cohen relishes Giuliani's legal woes and predicts he'll flip on Trump
https://www.businessinsider.com/video-michael-cohen-giuliani-idiot-who-will-flip-on-trump-2021-4

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3983 on: May 01, 2021, 03:26:32 AM »

Not looking too good for old Rudy.  :D

Rudy Giuliani's home, office searched by federal agents as part of lobbying probe, sources tell ABC News
Sources say Giuliani's electronic devices were confiscated by authorities

https://abcnews.go.com/US/rudy-giulianis-home-office-searched-federal-agents-part/story?id=77368884

FBI seizes electronics from Rudy Giuliani's Manhattan apartment
https://abc7ny.com/politics/fbi-seizes-electronics-from-rudy-giulianis-nyc-apartment/10556451/

A grand jury has been impaneled in the federal investigation into Rudy Giuliani
https://www.businessinsider.com/grand-jury-has-been-impaneled-the-federal-investigation-into-giuliani-2021-4

What the hell was Giuliani doing trying to steal the election for Trump? What about his legacy as the mayor of New York during 9/11?

Now we know. He was trying to get a “Get Out of Jail Free” card. It didn’t work. He was unable to steal the election for Trump. So his legacy is trashed, he goes down in history as a public figure who tried to steal an election for a sitting President who doesn’t want to leave, making him a traitor against American, a traitor against Democracy. And he still has to go to jail.

How disparate must he have been? Pretty disparate.

I would guess that maybe the original deal was, help Trump out with Ukraine, and he will get a pardon at the end of Trump’s term. With no risk to Giuliani. In late 2020, Trump added a new condition. Get the election overturned. Then he can have his pardon. He tried, he sweated black goo, but he still could not get it done.

Got to feel sorry for one who has fallen so far. Who just a few years ago, was “America’s Mayor”. But I still want him to go to prison.
« Last Edit: May 01, 2021, 03:28:54 AM by Joe Elliott »

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3983 on: May 01, 2021, 03:26:32 AM »