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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4912 on: March 30, 2022, 12:25:34 AM »
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Well, we all knew Donnie was lying when he said he didn't know what a "burner phone" was. Nobody was buying that lie. Even his most ardent supporters wasn't buying it either. But now we have confirmation that Donnie was lying thanks to his former National Security advisor John Bolton. And what about this "seven hour gap" between recorded phone calls? Who was Donnie conspiring with all that time to cover up who he was calling? Investigators are zeroing in on that as we speak.     

John Bolton contradicts Trump's claim that he has no idea what 'burner phones' are



In response to speculation that he used prepaid burner phones to talk with allies during a key seven-hour period on January 6, 2021, former President Donald Trump on Tuesday denied even knowing what burner phones were.

"I have no idea what a burner phone is, to the best of my knowledge I have never even heard the term," Trump claimed.

However, former Trump national security adviser John Bolton now tells The Washington Post's Robert Costa that he's not buying Trump's explanation.

Specifically, Bolton tells Costa that he recalls Trump discussing burner phones multiple times and being generally aware of what the devices are used for.

People who do not wish to have their communications tracked or monitored typically buy burner phones, which come with a finite number of prepaid cellular minutes and that do not require users to register an individual account with wireless carriers.

In fact, Bolton tells Costa that he remembers Trump talking about how people have used such phones to avoid having their calls scrutinized.

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"Former Trump national security adviser John Bolton said in an interview Tuesday, after the CBS-Post reporting was published, that he recalls Trump using the term “burner phones” in several discussions and that Trump was aware of its meaning

https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1508890138037964800


Trump’s mysterious last recorded phone call before the Jan. 6 riot was to an ‘unidentified person’



The last phone call Donald Trump made before the Jan. 6 insurrection began was with an "unidentified person," according to White House call logs.

That call came at 11:17 a.m., before Trump addressed his supporters at a "Stop the Steal" rally at the White House Ellipse, and was the last official record of a phone conversation the then-president made until seven hours and 37 minutes later -- a gap that has fallen under investigation by the House select committee, reported the Washington Post.

“The President talked on a phone call to an unidentified person," reads the 11:17 a.m. entry.

Records turned over by the National Archives show no calls until 6:54 p.m., when he instructed the operator to call aide Dan Scavino, and committee members are investigating as whether Trump used burner phones or backchannels to communicate as his supporters stormed the Capitol.

"I have no idea what a burner phone is, to the best of my knowledge I have never even heard the term," Trump told the Post in a statement.

The call records show Trump spoke to allies Steve Bannon and Rudy Giuliani before 9 a.m. and then returned a call from chief of staff Mark Meadows before instructing the operator to call then-vice president Mike Pence at 9:02 a.m.

Bannon asked Trump during their one-minute call whether Pence was coming for a breakfast meeting, where he hoped he could be pressured to stop the certification of Joe Biden's win, according to two people familiar with the conversation, but Trump said the vice president would not be coming to the White House after their heated meeting the previous evening in the Oval Office.

Trump agreed to call Pence again and ask him to delay certification, and the call logs show he and Bannon spoke again for seven minutes starting at 10:19 p.m.

The final call with Pence was not listed in the records, although multiple sources close to both men say they spoke by phone in the late morning, before the "Stop the Steal" rally, and the vice president reportedly enraged Trump by stating he would not block certification.

The call logs also show Trump spoke Jan. 6 with election lawyers, White House officials, outside allies including then-Sen. David Perdue (R-GA), conservative pundit William Bennett and Fox News host Sean Hannity.

Other calls were made to Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), who an aide says declined the call, and Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO), and Trump spoke for 10 minutes with Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) starting at 9:24 a.m.

He next spoke with Giuliani for six minutes at 9:41 a.m., and then again for nine minutes at 8:39 p.m., and the logs show Giuliani called from different phone numbers.

Trump spoke to senior adviser Stephen Miller for 26 minutes starting at 9:52 a.m.

The records show Trump spoke that evening with White House counsel Pat Cipollone, press secretary Kayleigh McEnany, political adviser Jason Miller, former North Carolina Supreme Court chief justice Mark Martin and conservative attorney Cleta Mitchell.

His final call was a 17-minute conversation with John McEntee, his director of presidential personnel, starting at 11:32 p.m.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/29/trump-white-house-logs/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4913 on: March 30, 2022, 01:21:40 AM »
Trump could be arrested or indicted based on evidence in judge’s ruling: Former federal prosecutor



A former federal prosecutor who served for more than 24 years in the District of Columbia's U.S. Attorney's Office says Donald Trump could be arrested or indicted on just the evidence included in Monday's bombshell legal ruling by U.S. District Court Judge David O. Carter.

"Judge Carter’s finding by a preponderance of the evidence [which says] more likely than not that Trump committed felony offenses is a HIGHER evidentiary standard than the one needed to arrest/indict Trump for his crimes, which requires only probable cause," writes Glenn Kirschner, who is now an NBC News/MSNBC legal analyst and host of "Justice Matters" podcast.

Judge Carter on Monday wrote: “Based on the evidence, the Court finds it more likely than not that President Trump corruptly attempted to obstruct the Joint Session of Congress on January 6, 2021.” In response, legal experts are calling his ruling “striking,” “massive,” “monumental,” and “historic.”

“Dr. Eastman and President Trump launched a campaign to overturn a democratic election," Carter also wrote, calling it "an action unprecedented in American history. Their campaign was not confined to the ivory tower—it was a coup in search of a legal theory. The plan spurred violent attacks on the seat of our nation’s government, led to the deaths of several law enforcement officers, and deepened public distrust in our political process.”

Kirschner, whose total federal prosecutorial experience spans 30 years, adds he will be discussing the ruling in his next podcast.

https://www.youtube.com/c/GlennKirschner2/featured

https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/2022/03/trump-could-be-arrested-or-indicted-based-on-evidence-in-judges-ruling-former-federal-prosecutor/


‘Woodward and I have the docs’: Robert Costa posts Jan. 6 WH call logs that could be big trouble for Trump and allies



CBS News' Robert Costa Tuesday morning announced, "Woodward and I have the docs," referring to the White House call logs and Donald Trump's Presidential "Daily Diary" for January 6, 2021, the infamous day of the insurrection and the attack on the U.S. Capitol and American democracy.

Costa, formerly of The Washington Post, and Woodward, currently with The Post, have been working together. Costa published links to the White House call logs and the Presidential "Daily Diary":

Woodward and I have the docs. @CBSNews @washingtonpost
 
Read them here:
https://mobile.twitter.com/costareports/status/1508775516337283076

They reveal a president who was in a flurry of phone calls from 8:23 AM to 11:06 AM – and then a mysterious seven-hour gap, until 6:54 PM.

The logs and diary could pose serious problems for Donald Trump, the former president, and his top aides and allies, as the House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack puts together a detailed timeline of everything that happened on that day.

For example, Congressman Jim Jordan infamously told a reporter he couldn't remember when he talked to the president on January 6, even if it was before or after the insurrection. He talked to Trump for ten minutes, from 9:24 AM to 9:34 AM – before the attack on the Capitol.

Costa points to Steve Bannon: Bannon was at the Willard war room on January 5, working closely with Giuliani. They both spoke with Trump that night about how to push Pence to do what Trump wanted.

Now, we know Bannon then spoke twice w/ Trump on the day of attack, and once again pushed Trump to pressure VP.


Trump's last call before the massive gap was to Senator David Perdue (R-GA), who is now running for governor of Georgia.

Also noteworthy is at 7:16 PM, after the attack on the Capitol, the White House operator told the president there were "pending calls" from Sen. Hawley, and attorney Cleta Mitchell who was on Trump's possibly unlawful call to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger.

https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/2022/03/woodward-and-i-have-the-docs-robert-costa-posts-jan-6-wh-call-logs-that-could-be-big-trouble-for-trump-and-allies/


'How can you forget a call that long?' Reporter hounds Jim Jordan about his infamous Jan. 6 Trump phone call



Spectrum News reporter Taylor Popielarz on Tuesday filmed himself hounding Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) about the infamous phone call he had on January 6th, 2021 with former President Donald Trump.

The video shows Popielarz following Jordan around the United States Capitol building and asking Jordan about the seven-and-a-half-hour gap in White House call logs that occurred on January 6th, including the time when Trump supporters were violently rioting at the Capitol.

Popielarz grilled Jordan about having a ten-minute call with Trump that morning and claiming to not remember the contents of what was discussed.

"What do you say to constituents who question... how do you forget a call that long on a day as significant as that?" he asked.

"I said I talked to him," Jordan replied.

"I know," said Popielarz. "But you said you didn't remember, you initially told me you didn't remember if it happened before."

"Right and that's old news," Jordan shot back. "I talked to the president on that day."

"Do you think your constituents deserve to know what you talked about?" asked Popielarz.

"You can look at our letter," Jordan replied. "We got all the answers in our letter we sent two months ago."

Jordan then declined to say whether he would cooperate with a subpoena from the House Select Committee investigating the riots.

Watch the video below.

https://twitter.com/i/status/150891454147586458

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4914 on: March 30, 2022, 02:08:01 AM »
Michael Cohen claims riot committee witness purchased three burner phones at a CVS



Donald Trump's former lawyer Michael Cohen tweeted Tuesday in response to the bombshell Washington Post report that so-called "burner phones" may have been used to communicate with the White House on Jan. 6, 2021. According to Cohen's tweet, someone did purchase the burner phones and they are about to tell Congress about it.

"The phones seized were not burned phones. Rather, they were old family phones, 12 of them belonging to my wife and children. I kept them because they all contain family photos going back 2 decades. According to witnesses, Trump associates bought 3 burner phones at CVS."

https://twitter.com/MichaelCohen212/status/1508786242187579400

Raw Story spoke to Cohen, who said that he has been in contact with the person who will testify to the House Select Committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack and what led up to it in the coming weeks. That person will reveal, according to Cohen, that they were given $400 in cash and instructed to purchase the burner phones.

Those phones were then "delivered to two individuals who were engaged in conversations with Mark Meadows and others in the U.S. Capitol during the Jan. 6 coup," said Cohen.

Cohen added that the individual who instructed the person to purchase the phones asked for a receipt. However, as any person who shops at CVS knows, a shopper may enter their phone number to earn CVS rewards. Even if one pays cash, the purchase may be recorded in their system.

The committee is now obtaining the receipts for the burner phone, according to Cohen.

https://www.rawstory.com/cohen-burner-phones/


WATCH: Legal experts explain the significance of 'astounding' Trump call-log revelation



Legal analysts are coming forward with their own commentary about the recent revelation that there was more than a seven-hour gap in the phone logs for former President Donald Trump on Jan. 6, 2021.

Speaking to CNN, former federal prosecutor Elie Honig explained that prosecutors use the phrase "consciousness of guilt," which means when people take steps preemptively to hide their communication, they're doing it for a reason.

"That's what jumps out to me here," he explained. "If you look at the pattern, using the normal White House phone subject to the logs all morning, all up until 11:17 a.m. Then he stopped. And it looks like he made a decision I'm going to take this offline for the next 7 1/2 hours. To me, that's really compelling evidence of his state of mind."

CNN host Jim Sciutto asked if such a gap indicates evidence exists that laws were broken.

"It may reveal more than that, Jim," said former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti. "If, for example, there were other phones being used surreptitiously that were not only not being recorded and not being provided, but actually were being used for the purpose of hiding activity or communications. We do know that some of the other folks around the former president were using what is called burner phones, using phones that you -- that you would toss away. So, it is certainly raises a lot of questions and I think what is going to be an important step for the [House] committee is to make sure that they are able to talk to folks that were close to former President Trump and see if there are witnesses that recall seeing him on the phone during that period of time."

Sciutto wondered if the use of a burner phone would signify intent or indicate an attempt to hide something. Mariotti agreed, noting that it is a practice known to be used for criminal activity.

"I used to get wiretaps on phones when I was a federal prosecutor and the folks that use burner phones were usually drug dealers, people who were involved in the drug cartel in some way," he recalled. "People who knew they had to toss their phone every 30 days to try to stymie the efforts of people like myself and law enforcement. So, I think it would certainly be astounding if something like that happened, and I think the explanation for the Trump camp has to be he was off the phone for seven hours straight. And really what investigators are going to need to establish is, first of all, was he the sort of person who could stay off the phone for seven hours and on that day can they establish through other evidence he was on the phone. And if so, where are the records? it reminds me of the Nixon gap, but a much larger one."

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Damning gap in White House call logs 'indicates something nefarious': impeachment lawyer



What Congress has not received from the White House appears to also be evidence, according to a top lawyer from Donald Trump's first impeachment hearing.

Former prosecutor Daniel Goldman was interviewed on Tuesday about a mysterious gap in White House call logs from Jan. 6, 2021.

"Fifty years ago, the scandalous actions of an American president were shielded from public view, thanks to a suspiciously convenient 18˝-minute gap in the Nixon White House’s call recordings. Today, the actions of another American president remain shielded thanks to another convenient — and inexplicable — gap in White House records," The Washington Post reported. "The gap takes place between 11:17 a.m. and 6:54 p.m., covering virtually the entirety of the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, which was breached at 2:11 p.m. on Jan. 6, 2021. Other Trump actions are recorded in that period, including an hour-plus-long speech he gave at a rally that preceded the insurrection, and some of his movements inside the White House. But vast stretches of time are unaccounted for."

MSNBC's Ali Velshi asked Goldman about the 7-hour, 37-minute gap.

"Do they indicate a likely cover-up and is there a way for the investigators to actually figure out what happened in that time and get those records?" Velshi asked.

"Well, it certainly indicates something nefarious," Goldman replied. "Because either the Trump administration concealed the logs, erased them, or did not include them when they turned over presidential records to the national archives, which is where the January six committee got the logs from. Or it means that he was trying to avoid a record of the phone calls that he was making during the insurrection."

"So there is no real good, possible explanation for him," he explained.

"So we know that there were phone calls and the way that the January six committee can try to sort of reverse engineer what occurred that day is through other witnesses and other phone records," Goldman explained. "So there are ways of figuring it out, but it is certainly an alarming and a very conspicuous absence of information."

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4916 on: March 30, 2022, 03:25:51 PM »
Criminal Donald committed treason once again. He publicly cried out for his puppet master Putin to help him dig up "dirt" on the Biden's. It is a federal crime to solicit election assistance from a foreign national. Donnie was impeached for that the first time when he was holding up Ukraine's military aid for "dirt" on Biden.   

And then Russian State TV was calling for regime change to elect “Our Partner Trump”....."again". If anybody still thinks that Russia didn't install Criminal Donald in 2016 they are truly delusional because Russia just admitted they did and they want to do it "again".   

Is there any real question who’s on which side anymore?

Russia calls Donnie their "partner". Donnie cries out to Putin for help. Collusion and conspiracy right out in the open.

Here is Russian State TV calling for regime change in America to elect their “partner” Trump.”

Watch: https://twitter.com/i/status/1509011513121648641





Trump brazenly asks Putin to release dirt about Biden’s family
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/29/politics/trump-putin-hunter-biden/index.html

Russian state TV calls for regime change in America — to ‘help our partner Trump’

Donald Trump continues to be praised on Russian state television almost as much as he's regaled on Fox News, with state media now calling for regime change in the United States.

Daily Beast columnist Julia Davis has been monitoring Russian state TV to report on how the invasion is being portrayed by the Kremlin.

"Putin’s invasion of Ukraine pitted Russia against most of the world, leaving Kremlin propagandists yearning for any tidbits of pro-Russian sentiment in the United States. These days, state television draws on a bounty of translated quotes almost exclusively from two Western voices: Tucker Carlson of Fox News and former U.S. President Donald J. Trump," Davis reported Tuesday.

She also reported that a Russian TV host was calling for regime change in America to return Donald Trump to power, even though Kamala Harris is next in line, followed by Speaker Nancy Pelosi and then Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT).

"It is time for us, for our people, to call on the people of the United States to change the regime in the U.S. early," Russian TV host Evgeny Popov said.

"And to again help our partner Trump to become president," he said.

https://www.rawstory.com/russian-state-tv-trump/

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« Reply #4917 on: March 30, 2022, 04:28:22 PM »
We knew that Criminal Donald was mentally unwell for years. His fragile ego can't stand being defeated in a blowout election to Joe Biden and he knows being out of power makes him subject to arrest and criminal prosecution for his crimes against the United States. Donnie is scared and is calling out for his puppet master Putin for help to get him back in power. The guy Donnie praises and wants help from is slaughtering innocent Ukrainians. The same guy he appeased and colluded with for 4 years. Lock him up for treason.   

‘Trump is mentally unwell’: CNN analyst goes off on Trump for asking Putin for dirt on the Bidens



"Donald Trump is mentally unwell in a way that makes him interested exclusively in what benefits him," said Harwood. "Distinctions between true, false, right, wrong, America's friends, America's enemies are irrelevant to Donald Trump. Russia has helped him financially and politically over the years. And he has aligned himself with Vladimir Putin. This is significant not just because he was president, but he's the leader of one of America's two primary parties, and he might be president again."

"This is a moment of moral clarity, when Vladimir Putin is slaughtering thousands of people in Ukraine, for Republicans who do care about the difference between right, wrong, true, false, America's friends and America's enemies, to reflect on whether this is the person they want to attach their party to," added Harwood. "Again, there is no evidence that ... President Biden has done anything wrong. But we know that Donald Trump has aligned himself for years with Vladimir Putin. And Vladimir Putin is the butcher in this war that is going on right now."

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4918 on: March 31, 2022, 01:58:25 AM »
Prosecutors now have a ‘road map’ to prosecute Trump for January 6: legal experts
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-felony-prosecution-plan/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4919 on: March 31, 2022, 04:46:58 AM »
On January 6, Trump, himself, called Republican Senator Mike Lee using a number recorded as "202-395-0000," which corresponds to an official White House phone.

Revealed: Trump used White House phone for call on January 6 that was not on official log
Trump’s call to Republican senator should have been reflected in presidential call log on day of Capitol attack but wasn’t



Donald Trump used an official White House phone to place at least one call during the Capitol attack on January 6 last year that should have been reflected in the internal presidential call log from that day but was not, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

The former president called the phone of a Republican senator, Mike Lee, with a number recorded as 202-395-0000, a placeholder number that shows up when a call is incoming from a number of White House department phones, the sources said.

The number corresponds to an official White House phone and the call was placed by Donald Trump himself, which means the call should have been recorded in the internal presidential call log that was turned over to the House select committee investigating the Capitol attack.

Trump’s call to Lee was reported at the time, as well as its omission from the call log, by the Washington Post and CBS. But the origin of the call as coming from an official White House phone, which has not been previously reported, raises the prospect of tampering or deletion by Trump White House officials.

It also appears to mark perhaps the most serious violation of the Presidential Records Act – the statute that mandates preservation of White House records pertaining to a president’s official duties – by the Trump White House concerning January 6 records to date.

A spokesperson for Trump did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Trump called Lee at 2.26pm on January 6 through the official 202-395-0000 White House number, according to call detail records reviewed by the Guardian and confirmation by the two sources, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.

The call was notable as Trump mistakenly dialed Lee thinking it was the number for Republican Senator Tommy Tuberville. Lee passed the phone to Tuberville, who told Trump Mike Pence had just been removed from the Senate chamber as rioters stormed the Capitol.

But Trump’s call to Lee was not recorded in either the presidential daily diary or the presidential call log – a problem because even though entries in the daily diary are discretionary, according to several current and former White House officials, the call log is not.

The presidential daily diary is a retrospective record of the president’s day produced by aides in the Oval Office, who have some sway to determine whether a particular event was significant enough to warrant its inclusion, the officials said.

But the presidential call log, typically generated from data recorded when calls are placed by the White House operators, is supposed to be a comprehensive record of all incoming and outgoing calls involving the president through White House channels, the officials said.

The fact that Trump’s call to Lee was routed through an official White House phone with a 202-395 prefix – either through a landline in the West Wing, the White House residence or a “work” cellphone – means details of that call should have been on the call log.

The only instance where a call might not be reflected on the unclassified presidential call log, the officials said, would be if the call was classified, which would seem to be unlikely in the case of the call to Lee. The absence of Trump’s call to Lee suggests a serious breach in protocol and possible manipulation, the officials said.

It was not immediately clear how a Trump White House official might obfuscate or tamper with the presidential call log, or who might have the authority to make such manipulations.

Trump’s calls on January 6 might not have been recorded in the presidential call log if he used his personal phone or the cellphones of aides, the officials said, and Trump sometimes called people with the cellphone of his then White House deputy chief of staff, Dan Scavino.

But multiple current and former White House officials have noted that a copy of the call log – alongside the president’s daily schedule and the presidential line-by-line document – might be provided to Oval Office operations to help compile the presidential daily diary.

That could lead to a situation where records are vulnerable to tampering, since the presidential daily diary and call log needs approval by a senior White House official before they can be sent to the White House office of records management, the officials said.

And by the time of January 6, two former Trump White House officials said, there was scope for political interference in records preservation, with no White House staff secretary formally appointed after Derek Lyons’ departure on 18 December.

The White House Communications Agency has also not been immune to political influence, the select committee revealed last year, when it found evidence the agency produced a letter that was intended to be used to pressure states to decertify Joe Biden’s election win.

Trump’s call to Lee was not the only call missing from an unexplained, seven-hour gap in the presidential call log that day. Trump, for instance, also connected with House minority leader Kevin McCarthy as the Capitol attack unfolded.

The presidential daily diary and presidential call log were turned over to the select committee by the National Archives after the supreme court refused a last-ditch request from Trump to block the release of White House documents to the panel.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/30/trump-used-white-house-phone-call-capitol-attack-jan-6-not-official-log

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