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« Reply #4992 on: April 15, 2022, 01:18:59 PM »
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« Reply #4993 on: April 15, 2022, 01:29:08 PM »
Judge finds Trump likely committed crimes related to 2020 election



A federal judge on Monday asserted it is "more likely than not" that former President Donald Trump committed crimes in his attempt to stop the certification of the 2020 election, ruling to order the release of more than 100 emails from Trump adviser John Eastman to the committee investigating the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.

The ruling by U.S. District Court Judge David Carter marked a major legal win for the House panel as it looks to correspondence from Eastman, the lawyer who was consulting with Trump as he attempted to overturn the presidential election.

"Based on the evidence, the Court finds it more likely than not that President Trump corruptly attempted to obstruct the Joint Session of Congress on January 6, 2021," Carter, who was nominated by former President Bill Clinton, wrote in the ruling submitted in the federal Central District of California.

Eastman was trying to withhold documents from the committee on the basis of an attorney-client privilege claim between him and the former president. The committee responded earlier this month, arguing that there is a legal exception allowing the disclosure of communications regarding ongoing or future crimes.

Charles Burnham, an attorney representing Eastman, said in a statement Monday that his client has a responsibility to his attorney-client privilege and his lawsuit against the committee "seeks to fulfill this responsibility."

"It is not an attempt to 'hide' documents or 'obstruct' congressional investigations, as the January 6th committee falsely claims," Burnham said.

The March 3 filing from the committee was their most formal effort to link the former president to a federal crime. Lawmakers do not have the power to bring criminal charges on their own and can only make a referral to the Justice Department. The department has been investigating last year's riot, but it has not given any indication that it is considering seeking charges against Trump.

The committee argued in the court documents that Trump and his associates engaged in a "criminal conspiracy" to prevent Congress from certifying Democrat Joe Biden's victory in the Electoral College. Trump and those working with him then spread false information about the outcome of the presidential election and pressured state officials to overturn the results, potentially violating multiple federal laws, the panel said.

The trove of documents the nine-member panel has publicly released so far, which include some emails already retrieved from Eastman, offers an early look at some of the panel's likely conclusions, which are expected to be submitted in the coming months. The committee says it has interviewed more than 650 witnesses as it investigates the violent siege by Trump supporters, the worst attack on the Capitol in more than two centuries.

https://www.wbur.org/news/2022/03/28/judge-trump-crimes-2020-election

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4994 on: April 15, 2022, 02:14:26 PM »
Donnie without his orange makeup looking senile in this photo. No wonder he's now talking about his poor health. 


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« Reply #4995 on: April 15, 2022, 02:19:23 PM »
NY AG expands Trump Organization civil investigation to include role of appraiser

CNN — New York Attorney General Letitia James has broadened her civil investigation into the accuracy of the Trump Organization’s financial statements to include the role of its long-time appraiser Cushman & Wakefield, according to recent court filings.

James asked a judge to force the company to comply with subpoenas issued last year and early this year. On Tuesday, the judge ordered Cushman to appear in court later this month.

In an effort to determine whether certain valuations prepared by Cushman were fraudulent or misleading, and whether Cushman itself has engaged in fraudulent or misleading practices in its issuance of appraisals, (The Office of the Attorney General) has issued a series of subpoenas to Cushman including most recently subpoenas issued in September 2021 and February 2022,” James’ office wrote.

Cushman has objected to the subpoenas, citing client confidentiality and harassment, among other things, according to court filings.

“Any suggestion that Cushman & Wakefield has not responded in good faith to the Attorney General’s investigation is fundamentally untrue,” a company spokesman said. “The Attorney General’s filings do not accurately depict Cushman & Wakefield’s responses to prior subpoenas and inquiries. We stand behind our appraisers and our work.”

James’ office has previously alleged there were multiple misstatements in the company’s financial statements. The findings are part of its ongoing civil investigation into the Trump Organization and whether it defrauded borrowers, lenders, and tax authorities who relied upon those statements

The latest filing comes as James’ office has increased pressure to force the compliance with subpoenas as it heads toward an end of April deadline when a tolling agreement with the Trump Organization expires. It has sought depositions with Trump, Donald Trump Jr. and Ivanka Trump and moved to hold the former President in civil contempt for failing to comply with a document subpoena.

Trump has called the investigation a politically motivated witch hunt.

Cushman is the go-to appraiser for the Trump Organization, assisting it in valuing several properties, including the family compound known as Seven Springs, the Trump National Golf Club in Los Angeles and 40 Wall Street, according to court filings. The civil subpoenas are seeking Cushman’s work documents relating to those properties and others, information on payments to the Trump Organization and its decision to cease doing work for Trump in January 2021. In addition authorities are seeking information about a Cushman appraiser who went to work for the Trump Organization.

Lawyers for the attorney general’s office said Cushman failed to comply with a subpoena sent in February and it recently stopped producing documents in connection with the September subpoena. In addition, the attorney general’s office said Cushman instructed four of its employees not to answer questions during depositions, citing privileges.

Cushman regularly provided the Trump Organization with real estate data that the attorney general’s office said was ultimately used in the preparation of the financial statements. There were “hundreds” of instances when that data, according to the attorney general’s office, was cited “as support for the inflated valuations” included in Trump’s financial statements.

The attorney general’s office notes that appraisals Cushman prepared for 40 Wall Street and were incorporated into two different commercial mortgage-backed securities differed in key ways from earlier appraisals. The rest of the information about those loans was redacted in the court filing.

Investigators said they’re looking to explore what was requested by Trump, “whether the appraisers were pushed by the client in any respect, and whether Cushman’s substantial business with the Trump Organization in any way impacted the appraisals prepared or other valuation-related information provided, or compromised Cushman’s objectivity."

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/12/politics/trump-organization-appraiser/index.html

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4996 on: April 16, 2022, 12:28:09 PM »
We now have undeniable proof of a coordinated Republican effort to subvert the 2020 election



A recording made by a disgruntled election conspiracist is the strongest evidence yet that operatives in Donald Trump’s orbit summoned supporters to Washington on January 6 for the express purpose of coercing lawmakers into overturning the 2020 election.

News broke late Tuesday afternoon, whereupon this bombshell of a story was promptly buried under an avalanche of other news.

The main characters aren’t household names, but this story is every bit as important as the earlier revelation that Donald Trump, Jr, was pushing a detailed plan for a coup to his father’s chief of staff before the election had even been decided. And it’s even more important than the late-breaking news that Sen. Mike Lee talked up Trump lawyer John Eastman’s plan for a procedural coup in late November.

The star of the secret recording is Jason Sullivan, one-time aide to dirty trickster and longtime Trump confidante Roger Stone.

Sullivan told the Times he was invited to speak by a group of anti-vaccine activists, who were planning a permitted event in the capital on J6. (By amazing coincidence, Stone was scheduled to speak at an anti-vax event on the afternoon of J6, an engagement he missed, for reasons that are surely of great interest to the J6 committee.)

The call was made a week before the insurrection.

Sullivan repeatedly urged the other callers to intimidate the lawmakers who were meeting to certify the election. He told them they needed to make them feel like the people were “breathing down their neck.”

“If we make the people inside that building sweat and they understand that they may not be able to walk in the streets any longer if they do the wrong thing, then maybe they’ll do the right thing,” Sullivan said.

“We have to put that pressure there.”

This recording was made by a woman named Staci Burk, a former school board official turned election conspiracist. Burk filed an anonymous affidavit supporting one of Trump lawyer Sidney Powell’s many election conspiracy theories. Whereupon heavily armed paramilitary operatives calling themselves the 1st Amendment Praetorian (1AP) moved into her home for several weeks, ostensibly to guard her. Burk told the Times a 1AP member joined the call, and she made the recording because the armed men were making her feel unsafe. Members of 1AP were in the capital during the insurrection and members of the group have been subpoenaed by the J6 committee.

This recording partially corroborates previous claims by Ali Alexander, another one of Roger Stone’s associates. He said he schemed with members of the Congress to gather a crowd to pressure lawmakers into overturning the election during the certification ceremony.

In a video made before the insurrection, Ali Alexander claimed that he and US Reps. Mo Brooks, Andy Biggs and Paul Gosar “schemed up putting maximum pressure on Congress while they were voting.”

The video circulated on social media but was later deleted. The plan was to “change the hearts and the minds of Republicans who were in that body, hearing our loud roar from outside,” Ali Alexander said.

The Sullivan call proves there was an inside-outside game on J6.

The inside game was the procedural coup devised by John Eastman that was unfolding inside the Capitol on J6 as GOP legislators raised spurious claims of election fraud to overturn a free and fair election.

The outside game was the mob deliberately assembled in order to pressure legislators to go along with Trump’s illegal scheme.

https://www.rawstory.com/we-now-have-undeniable-proof-of-a-coordinated-republican-effort-to-subvert-the-2020-election/

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« Reply #4997 on: April 16, 2022, 12:39:58 PM »
Is this the smoking gun that will take down Trump?



Prosecutors are always looking for the “smoking gun,” that elusive shred of evidence that conclusively establishes guilt. Attorney General Merrick Garland may be hesitating to indict Donald Trump not out of timidity, but for lack of a “smoking gun.” In Manhattan, fledgling prosecutor Alvin Bragg apparently lost his enthusiasm for a convincing false financial statement case against Trump. He says however, that his “investigation is continuing.” He is doubtless searching for a smoking gun.

This Webster defines a “smoking gun” as “something that serves as conclusive evidence or proof (as of a crime or scientific theory).”

The phrase, it is said, originated in 1893 in a Sherlock Holmes mystery entitled “The Gloria Scott.” There, Conan Doyle writes of a chaplain imposter aboard a prison ship who murders the captain. The evidence is circumstantial. ''We rushed into the captain's cabin . . . there he lay with his brains smeared over the chart of the Atlantic . . . while the chaplain stood with a smoking pistol in his hand at his elbow.''

A “smoking pistol” was Conan Doyle’s turn of phrase. But it was close enough to pour the foundation for the cliché which holds currency today. Pundits used the phrase promiscuously during the Watergate era when a tape surfaced revealing that Nixon sought to cover up an FBI investigation into the Watergate burglary by having the CIA falsely tell the FBI that the investigation implicated national security. The tape led inexorably to the House drafting articles of impeachment and Nixon’s ultimate resignation.

Smoking guns did not originate with Watergate, and did not end there either. In the run-up to the 2003 war in Iraq, George W. Bush claimed that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. The UN Security Council wanted to see direct evidence or at least circumstantial evidence amounting to a “smoking gun.”

Chief Inspector Hans Blix, in charge of scoping out biological and chemical arms, told the Council: ''Evidently, if we had found any 'smoking gun,' we would have reported it to the Council. . . . The absence of smoking guns . . . is no guarantee that prohibited stocks or activities could not exist at other sites, whether aboveground, underground or in mobile units.''

There is a lot of smoke surrounding Trump’s conduct on January 6: Judge David Carter’s opinion in California holding that it was “more likely than not” that Trump corruptly attempted to obstruct the Joint Session of Congress on January 6, 2021.”

Trump’s tweet of December 19 to the faithful, inviting them to come to Washington, promising “be there, will be wild,” his continued false claims that he had won the election, although they were rejected in more than 60 court cases, and by Bill Barr, his own right-leaning attorney general who resigned early in disgust, the seven hour gap in the January 6 White House phone logs, and the flap over whether Trump knew about burner phones, let alone used them, and most damning the cooperation agreement of George Donohoe of the Proud Boys admitting that the rioters acted in concert and knew what they were doing was wrong. But, even all this conduct raising eyebrows may not amount to the “smoking gun,” the Holy Grail that prosecutors like to see.

But this past week there occurred a new development, which could be Trump’s smoking gun. CNN broke the story that two days after the 2020 presidential election, as votes were still being tallied, and two days before the media had called the election for Joe Biden, Donald Trump, Jr. texted then-White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, whom Congress has cited for criminal contempt, telling Meadows “we have operational control” to ensure Trump would have a second term. Trump Jr. laid out the strategy followed by Trump’s inner circle in the following months: file lawsuits, advocate recounts to prevent battleground states from certifying their electors, have a number of Republican state houses put forward slates of fake “Trump electors,” and if all else failed, throw the election into the House of Representatives where Trump could expect to win the majority as votes are counted by state delegations.

The text establishes at a minimum that Trump Jr. was in on the planning (of which Trump was doubtless aware) to subvert the choice of the voters in key states and replace them with either phony Trump electors or the electors put forward by Republican legislatures or else kick things over to the House of Representatives where Trump would certainly win 28 states to 22.

Subsequently, John Eastman, a lawyer on the right, proposed a six-step variation on the theme. Eastman elaborated a series of moves whereby Vice President Mike Pence might overturn the election. Judge Carter said that this put Trump and Eastman in the center of a criminal conspiracy to overturn the election.

Prosecutors never feel they have enough evidence to prove even a good case. Nevertheless, the New York Times reported that the January 6 panel believes it has enough evidence for a criminal referral to the Department of Justice alleging that Trump was involved in a conspiracy to defraud the United States, as well as other federal crimes, including obstruction of an official proceeding.

The panel, however, is said to be split over whether to make the referral for fear that it may politicize any eventual prosecution. A criminal reference would not bind Attorney General Garland, but it would ratchet up the political pressure to indict Trump, already reaching fever pitch. The committee may differ internally about whether it is advisable to make the referral, but they appear of a mind that there is significant evidence of criminality. Vice Chairwoman of the committee, Liz Cheney, a Republican of Wyoming whose conservative roots are second to none, told CNN: “I think…it’s absolutely clear what President Trump was doing, what a number of people around him were doing that they knew it was unlawful. They did it anyway.”

Whether there is a referral or not, Trump and the Trumpists will call any Garland indictment political, so why not refer? We are not a banana republic and are loath to prosecute our former rulers, but if we don’t hold everyone accountable, and give a pass to a former President that we wouldn’t give to anyone else, doesn’t this make us a banana republic as well? Here, no one is—or should be— above the law.

James D. Zirin is a former federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York.

https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/182936

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4998 on: April 16, 2022, 12:57:28 PM »
Conservative busts Mike Lee for lying to Bob Woodward about when he learned of Eastman's coup plot



On Friday, former Ted Cruz communications official Amanda Carpenter argued that newly released text messages prove Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) was not telling the truth when he told reporter Bob Woodward that he first learned of the plot by right-wing lawyer John Eastman to overturn the 2020 presidential election on January 2.

In one of the texts from Lee to then-White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows on November 23, noted Carpenter, Lee said that "John Eastman has some really interesting research on this," and on December 8, Lee said, "If a very small handful of states were to have their legislatures appoint alternative slates of delegates, there could be a path."

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Previously, Mike Lee claimed he learned of the Eastman plot on Jan. 2. His texts to Mark Meadows shows that is not true. https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2022/04/15/please-tell-me-what-i/

Look at this text revealed today compared to what Lee suggested to Bob Woodward and Robert Costa in their book, Peril.








Mike Lee Nov 23: John Eastman has some really interesting research on this. The good news is is that Eastman is proposing an approach that unlike what Sidney Powell has propose could be examined very quickly



So, Mike Lee was "shocked" that Eastman delivered a memo to him on Jan 2, despite telling Meadows Eastman has "really interesting research" as early as Nov 23?

That doesn't jive.


This "alternative electors" ploy was the crux of Eastman's plan, outlined in an infamous confidential memo to the Trump team. Former Vice President Mike Pence would then use these fake electors as grounds to overturn the real electors, leaving so many states unrepresented in the Electoral College that no one had a majority, and throwing the presidential election to the House of Representatives, where Republicans had enough state delegations to declare Trump the winner.

Experts broadly considered this plan illegal, including Pence himself.

The text messages, revealed this week, show that Lee also begged the White House for talking points on the status of the election, and that he and Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX) lobbied to connect Trump to Sidney Powell, the conspiracy theorist attorney facing defamation lawsuits and an ethics investigation by the Texas State Bar for her efforts to overturn the election.

https://twitter.com/amandacarpenter/status/1515070345149128714

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« Reply #4999 on: April 16, 2022, 01:39:57 PM »
GOP’s Mike Lee begged White House for talking points after Powell-Giuliani disaster: 'Please tell me what I should be saying'



Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) wanted to help Donald Trump remain in the White House despite losing the election, but he became increasingly dismayed by the arguments offered by the former president's legal team.

The Utah Republican and Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX) exchanged more than 100 text messages with then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, which were obtained by CNN, and the communications show Lee pushing right-wing attorney Sidney Powell into Trump's orbit -- and then turning on her after a disastrous news conference with campaign attorneys Rudy Giuliani and Jenna Ellis.

"I'm worried about the Powell press conference," Lee texted Meadows shortly after the Nov. 19, 2020 event. "The potential defamation liability for the president is significant here ... For the campaign and for the president personally ... Unless Powell can back up everything she said, which I kind of doubt she can."

Meadows agreed he, too, was "very concerned," but Lee wasn't ready to give up yet.

"The temptation will be to do nothing for now," Lee wrote to Meadows. "I'm not sure doing nothing is a good option."

The GOP senator appeared very concerned that some of the subjects of Powell's conspiracy theories about the election would sue for defamation -- which some of them later did -- and he feared that Trump would be implicated.

"Unless Powell can immediately substantiate what she said today, the president should probably disassociate himself and refute any claims that can't be substantiated," Lee texted. "He's got deep pockets, and the accusations Powell made are very, very serious."

"That is an especially bad combination when you consider the damages that could easily be claimed (and indeed proven) and the deep pockets involved," he added.

But the very next day, Lee came back to Meadows begging for better talking points than the legal arguments offered by Powell, which even she later admitted weren't meant to be taken seriously.

"Please give me something to work with," Lee said. "I just need to know what I should be saying."

Two days after that, on Nov. 22, 2020, the senator again begged Meadows for guidance.

"Please tell me what I should be saying," Lee texted.

That same day, Lee expressed worry that other senators were losing faith in Trump's legal team, which still included Powell, but he continued offering advice a day later, on Nov. 23, 2020.

"I have an additional idea for the campaign," Lee texted. "Something is not right in a few states. I think it could be proven or disproven easily with an audit (a physical counting of all ballots cast) in PA, WI, GA, and MI."

Then he promoted the work of right-wing attorney John Eastman, who crafted the so-called coup memo detailing how vice president Mike Pence could delay the congressional certification of Joe Biden's election win and alternate electors sent by state legislatures could then install Trump into another term.

"John Eastman has some really interesting research on this," Lee texted. "The good news is is that Eastman is proposing an approach that unlike what Sidney Powell has propose could be examined very quickly. But to do this, you'd have to act very soon. Some believe today might be the deadline for some of this in PA."

He pushed that plan even harder on Dec. 8, 2020."

If a very small handful of states were to have their legislatures appoint alternative slates of delegates, there could be a path," Lee texted.

Meadows said he had already been working on that same strategy, and Lee came back the following week asking for White House guidance.

"If you want senators to object, we need to hear from you on that ideally getting some guidance on what arguments to raise," Lee texted on Dec. 18, 2020. "I think we're now passed [sic] the point where we can expect anyone will do it without some direction and a strong evidentiary argument."

https://www.rawstory.com/mike-lee-trump-2657161483/

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