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« Reply #5064 on: May 02, 2022, 01:01:30 PM »
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Trump to Hold Rally for Candidate Accused of Groping Eight Women

“Don’t send your daughters to work for this guy,” one accuser warned. But Trump has doubled down his support of Charles Herbster since the allegations became public

Birds of a feather flock together. Former president Donald Trump will appear alongside Nebraska gubernatorial candidate Charles Herbster at a rally on Sunday. Both Herbster and Trump have been accused of sexually harassing multiple women.

A total of eight women have come forward to accuse Herbster of groping them without consent. So far, two of the accusers have identified themselves by name.

Elizabeth Todsen allowed the Nebraska Examiner to publish her name alongside her accusation against Herbster for the first time on Friday. She said that he touched her without consent at the 2019 Elephant Remembers fundraiser for the Douglas County Republican Party. A witness, Todsen’s friend, confirmed he saw the incident and asked her if she wanted him to confront Herbster. Todsen declined, not wanting to cause a scene.

"It was just all a blur after that happened, because it was all I could think about,” Todsen told the paper. “I just remember sitting there, and we were listening to the speakers … thinking, ‘How do you support this man?’”

Todsen is the second alleged victim to allow her name to be used publicly. Earlier in the month, the Examiner published Todsen’s allegation, along with stories from seven other women, without naming her.

Eight women, including Todsen, have accused Herbster in the Examiner of inappropriate behavior, including groping and a forced kiss, at political events and beauty pageants. At first, only GOP State Sen. Julie Slama allowed her name to be published alongside her accusation.

Slama said that Herbster touched her inappropriately at the same 2019 dinner where Todsen said he groped her. According to the paper, in a ballroom full of attendees, Herbster “reached up [Slama’s] skirt, without her consent, and touched her inappropriately.” Three witnesses confirmed to the paper that they saw it happen. When the paper reached out to Slama to ask about the incident, she replied, “Yes, confirmed,” but did not comment further.

In another alleged incident, Herbster was photographed with his hand outstretched behind a woman, below waist height. The woman and a witness confirmed to the paper that Herbster was groping her bu***cks when the photo was taken. Another accuser said Herbster behaved in a “creepy and controlling” manner after he touched her inappropriately. Per Nebraska law, inappropriate touching without consent and over their clothes is considered third-degree se*ual assault.

Herbster, through his campaign manager Ellen Keast, “unequivocally” denied the allegations when the news first broke last month. “This is a political hit-piece built on 100% false and baseless claims,” Keast said, blaming the “political establishment” for “smearing and trying to destroy him with lies.”

“Charles W. Herbster has a lifetime record of empowering women to lead,” Keast said in a statement to the Examiner. “His company, farm, and campaign are all run by women. Despite leading hundreds of employees, not once has his reputation been attacked in this disgusting manner.”

In response to Todsen coming forward publicly, Emily Novotny, Herbster’s campaign spokesperson told the Examiner, “We are going to stick by our statement that Charles 100 percent denies these allegations.”

When the allegations became public, Trump started to advise Herbster and, according to Politico, told the candidate he was not fighting back hard enough. Trump also endorsed the candidate’s plan “to hold a press conference aggressively denying the allegations and pushing back at his adversaries,” Politico reported.

On SaPersonay, responding to Todsen coming forward, Novotny told the New York Times that Herbster “will be taking legal action” against her. He has also hired the same law firm that Trump has used, according to Politico.

In 2019, Herbster was a wealthy Republican donor who made much of his fortune selling bull semen. He is now running in Nebraska’s Republican gubernatorial primary. The other unnamed accusers say they did not want to be publicly identified because they feared his power and that he might retaliate against them for speaking up.

“Being a conservative Republican woman in politics, you just expect to be treated with respect,” one of the unnamed women told the paper. “To be treated in that way in a public event, in front of everyone, just to prove, I believe, that he could get away with it, and not having recourse, it’s terrifying.”

“I’m scared for any young women that he would be dealing with in the future. Don’t send your daughters to work for this guy,” said another.

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‘He talked to somebody’: Donald Trump downplays candidate’s groping charges at Nebraska rally



Donald Trump has been addressing a Nebraska crowd for over an hour, but for a few moments, he celebrated the man he was there to endorse.

Charles W. Herbster has been accused of se*ual misconduct by at least eight women. But according to Trump, Herbster is being "badly maligned and it's a shame."

"That's why I came out here," said Trump. "It would have been easier for me to say, 'I'm not gonna come out.' I defend people when I know they're good. He's a good man. I came out here. Lotta people, by the way, David Bossie, right? This is the way it works, I mean, it's, uh, a lotta people say, and they look at you and they say, 'You don't have to do it, sir. You can—' I have to defend my friends. I have to defend people who are good. He was with us from the beginning."

He went on to say that he met people backstage at the rally who shook his hand and thanked him for being there despite the damaging allegations. Trump had more than 25 women who accused him of some form of misconduct, harassment or assault.

"He's been my friend for 30 years," Trump said of Herbster. "He's the most innocent human being — he's the last person to do any of this stuff. And even the stuff they're accusing him of — what do they say? He talked to somebody? He talked. It's a disgrace what they've done."

Herbster has been accused of groping two women at an event in 2019. One was Nebraska State. Sen. Julie Slama, a Republican.

"I coulda gotten out of this one real easy," said Trump. "I could've played golf. I coulda gone to the bach. I coulda done — and I'm here with Charles W. Charles W. Herbster. I said, 'Charles are you sure I have to come?' 'Please, sir, I'd like you to come.' It's so unfair. And his friends called me. They said we'd like you to come because it's so unfair and we can't let this stuff happen. You know, by the time he clears himself the election is over."

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5065 on: May 02, 2022, 01:13:24 PM »
Donnie is getting more senile at each rally he does. Now he's endorsing an imaginary candidate that doesn't even exist.

Trump Praises Imaginary Ohio Senate Candidate ‘J.D. Mandel’

No one appears to be more surprised by Donald Trump’s endorsement of J.D. Vance for the Ohio Senate than the former president himself, who on Sunday appeared not to know the former Never-Trumper’s name.

Speaking at a “Save America” rally in Nebraska in support of Charles Herbster, a Republican gubernatorial candidate accused of se*ually assaulting eight women, Trump crowed to a crowd: “You know, we’ve endorsed Dr. Oz. We’ve endorsed—J.P., right? J.D. Mandel, and he’s doing great. They’re all doing good.”

Trump appeared to be confusing the names of Ohio Republican primary candidates Josh Mandel, whom he hasn’t endorsed, and J.D. Vance, whom he (reluctantly) has.

Mandel, a former Ohio State treasurer running on a pro-Trump platform, was long presumed the front-runner in a crowded primary field until the former president issued his endorsement of Vance last month. “In the Great State of Ohio, the candidate most qualified and ready to win in November is J.D. Vance,” Trump’s April 15 statement said. “We cannot play games. It is all about winning!”

With the primary coming up on May 3, Trump may want to brush up with a rousing round of “Guess Who: Ohio Senate Edition.”

Trump: We’ve endorsed Dr.Oz. We’ve endorsed JP right? JD Mandell. He’s doing great.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5066 on: May 02, 2022, 01:23:19 PM »
'What planet is he on?' Morning Joe mocks Trump for forgetting who he endorsed in GOP Senate race

MSNBC's Joe Scarborough mocked former President Donald Trump for botching the name of the candidate he endorsed for the Ohio Republican Senate primary.

The former president backed venture capitalist and "Hillbilly Elegy" author J.D. Vance over former state treasurer Josh Mandel, but he combined their names during a speech at a campaign rally in Nebraska, telling supporters he had endorsed "J.D. Mandel."

"Oh, my God," Scarborough said, hooting with laughter. "You know, you know, if the current occupant at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue had done that, there would be headlines for, like, months. 'Oh, he can't remember,' which, of course, underlines the fact, how funny it is, you have people, right-wing Trumpists attacking Joe Biden for his mental acuity, right before Donald Trump couldn't remember who he endorsed."

The "Morning Joe" host recalled when Trump boasted that he had aced a cognitive test used to determine whether a person has dementia.

"What were the six or seven words he could remember?" Scarborough said.

Trump bragged that he remembered the words "person, woman, man, camera, TV," which he said astonished medical personnel, and Scarborough joked that perhaps the two GOP candidates could be fused together instead of running against one another.

"This from the former president was a remarkable performance, perhaps fusing together these Republican candidates, maybe he thinks it'll be the best chance in Ohio," Scarborough said. "Seriously, the guy -- like, what planet is he on?"


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« Reply #5067 on: May 02, 2022, 01:29:51 PM »
Trump election probe special grand jury to be seated

ATLANTA (AP) — Potential grand jurors are scheduled to arrive at the Fulton County courthouse in Atlanta on Monday for the seating of a special grand jury in the investigation into whether former President Donald Trump and others illegally tried to influence the 2020 election in Georgia.

The investigation has been underway since early last year, and Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis earlier this year requested a special grand jury to help it along. In a letter to the chief judge of the county Superior Court, she noted that the special grand jury would be able to issue subpoenas to people who have refused to cooperate otherwise.

The chief judge ordered the special grand jury to be seated for a period of up to a year, beginning Monday. It will be made up of 16 to 23 people called from the county master jury list. Special grand juries focus on investigating a single topic and making recommendations to the district attorney, who then decides whether to seek an indictment from a regular grand jury.

Because of the intense public interest in this case, the court has made arrangements for at least parts of the special grand jury seating process to be broadcast to the news media and public. Once the special grand jury is seated, however, everything it does will happen in secret.

Willis has confirmed that her team is looking into a January 2021 phone call in which Trump pushed Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to “find” the votes needed for him to win the state. She has also said they’re looking at a November 2020 phone call between U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham and Raffensperger, the abrupt resignation of the U.S. attorney in Atlanta on Jan. 4, 2021, and comments made during December 2020 Georgia legislative committee hearings on the election.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5068 on: May 02, 2022, 02:20:08 PM »
Trump headed for 'a couple of ugly nights' in May that will expose his weaknesses: adviser



Months before the 2022 midterms, a clue as to whether Donald Trump has a political future as a "kingmaker" will be put to the test as Republican voters decide if they want to embrace candidates whom he has endorsed -- or move on and leave him in the past.

With key primaries kicking off this week, the month of May will be crucial to Trump's political viability if some of his riskier choices for office fail to make the cut that would allow them to be on November's ballot.

According to a report from Politico's David Siders, one Trump advisor is privately admitting that May is not shaping up to be a month of unrivaled success for the former president if current polling is to be believed.

The first test for Trump comes on Tuesday of this week as his surprise choice to be the GOP nominee representing Ohio in the Senate, J.D. Vance, faces his first test before the voters.

Although Vance has leapfrogged the field after Trump's controversial endorsement, Politico is reporting that the rest of the month looks like a minefield for Trump.

"In a four-week stretch of primaries running from Nebraska and West Virginia to Idaho, Pennsylvania and Georgia, Trump-endorsed candidates are slogging through difficult races where the former president’s blessing hasn’t proved to be the rocket fuel some expected. In a few cases, his preferred candidates are running far behind," Siders wrote before noting that Trump himself was rejected by the voters in 2020 and Republicans lost control of the Senate and House on his watch.

That has Trumpworld nervous and conservative activists looking on anxiously.

According to GOP strategist John Thomas, a series of losses could expose Trump's diminishing influence over Republican Party.

“It’ll be a blow to his perceived power,” he explained. “He doesn’t single-handedly control the electorate unless he’s on the ballot. Is he still a very, very popular figure in the Republican Party? Absolutely, undeniably. But does he have the influence and weight in Republican primaries to be the decisive kingmaker? … Not definitively.”

One Trump advisor conceded as much, telling Siders, "The president could have a couple of ugly nights.”

According to one GOP pollster, the results of the Georgia Republican primary, where Trump has expended so much political capital, looks like it will deliver a key blow to his reputation.

“Georgia’s the big one,” Whit Ayres stated. “Trump took on an incumbent Republican governor and recruited a recent incumbent Republican senator to challenge him. That is the biggest of the challenges where Trump has tried to force his will.”

He then added, "If he’s able to take out an incumbent Republican governor, that’s a huge statement of his influence. But if he’s unable to take out an incumbent Republican governor with a recent incumbent senator, it’s a huge statement of his lack of influence on Republican voters.”

You can read more here: https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/02/may-primaries-republican-donald-trump-ohio-00029149

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« Reply #5069 on: May 02, 2022, 02:52:11 PM »
Criminal Donald wanted our military to shoot American citizens in the streets. And the GOP still supports this lunatic.     

'Can't you just shoot them?' Trump Pentagon chief says former president wanted to open fire on BLM protesters



Former President Donald Trump angrily demanded to know why he couldn't order the U.S. military to shoot protestors who filled streets around the White House in June 2020 in the aftermath of George Floyd's murder.

That's the explosive revelation contained in former Defense Secretary Mark Esper's soon-to-be-released memoir, according to Mike Allen of Axios.

In "A Sacred Oath," Esper confirms previous reporting that in multiple Oval Office meetings during the civil unrest, Trump suggested invoking the Insurrection Act to put U.S. military troops on the streets to quell violence. Esper opposed the move.

Esper describes a meeting in the first week of June, 2020 as "surreal, sitting in front of the Resolute desk, inside the Oval Office, with this idea weighing heavily in the air, and the president red faced and complaining loudly about the protests under way in Washington, D.C."

"Can't you just shoot them? Just shoot them in the legs or something?" Trump asked, according to the former defense secretary.

"The good news — this wasn't a difficult decision," Esper continues. "The bad news — I had to figure out a way to walk Trump back without creating the mess I was trying to avoid."

Axios reports that the book went through an extensive Pentagon clearance process, including reviews by "nearly three dozen 4-star generals, senior civilians, and some Cabinet members."

The memoir confirms what reporter Michael Bender wrote last year in his book, "Frankly, We Did Win This Election."

https://www.axios.com/mark-esper-book-trump-protesters-24e93272-2af5-423d-be3b-164daab7b43d.html

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« Reply #5070 on: May 02, 2022, 11:51:45 PM »
Georgia official begged Mark Meadows to end call where Trump pressured Raffensperger to 'find' votes

Former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows exchanged frantic text messages with a high-ranking Georgia official as Donald Trump pressured the state's top election official to "find" enough votes to overturn his loss there.

The messages were revealed in a recent court filing by Atlanta-based prosecutors investigating Trump's efforts to undo his election loss, and show deputy secretary of state Jordan Fuchs was eager to end the call between her boss and the former president, reported CNN.

"Need to end this call," Fuchs texted to Meadows. "I don't think this will be productive much longer."

"Let's save the relationship," she added.

Meadows ended the Jan. 3, 2021, phone call by suggesting lawyers from both sides should contact one another soon, and Fuchs seemed astonished by what she had heard.

"Thank you," she said. "Wow."

Fulton County district attorney Fani Willis will seat a grand jury to investigate whether Trump, his campaign attorney Rudy Giuliani, or Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) broke any laws in their efforts to overturn the 2020 election results, and newly revealed texts also show Meadows in contact with former Republican Sen. David Perdue (R-GA) to discuss challenges to the voting results.

"I'm trying to set up this call with state legislature leaders and Rudy," Perdue texted on Dec. 29, 2020. "I just want to make sure I'm doing what you and the president want."

A spokeswoman for Perdue, who's challenging Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp in a GOP gubernatorial primary, declined to comment.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/02/politics/georgia-grand-jury-meadows-texts/index.html

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« Reply #5071 on: May 02, 2022, 11:59:50 PM »
Rudy Giuliani and Lindsey Graham could be swept up in Trump Georgia grand jury proceedings: CNN



Reporting from in front of the Fulton County Justice Center & Courts as District Attorney Fani Willis seats a special grand jury to hear evidence that Donald Trump attempted to tamper with Georgia's presidential election results in 2020, CNN's Sara Murray pointed out that the investigation could expand and draw in members of the former president's inner circle.

Speaking with host Kate Bolduan and legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin, Murray claimed subpoenas could be slated in the future for former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows over their involvement.

With Toobin describing the proceedings as a "very promising investigation," Murray noted the grand jury make take months before coming to any conclusions.

And those conclusions could go beyond the former president who called Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger looking for just enough votes to flip the state's 16 Electoral College votes away from eventual winner Joe Biden.

"How big is this investigation?" host Bolduan prompted. "What is the sense that you're getting and how big is this also for this D.A.?"

"They're certainly looking into a number of matters beyond what they know from Georgia officials like Brad Raffensperger, who was talking to Donald Trump," Murray explained. "They've also made it clear they're looking into Rudy Giuliani giving a presentation for Georgia state lawmakers where he spread a bunch of conspiracies. They're looking into a phone call between Lindsey Graham, the senator, and a phone call he had with Raffensperger."

"And if she subpoenas people like Giuliani and Mark Meadows, that would be uncomfortable," she added.

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