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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5576 on: July 20, 2022, 08:07:29 AM »
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Just had another focus group of Trump voters where ZERO wanted Trump to run again in 2024. Really a striking departure from dozens and dozens of focus groups pre-Jan 6 hearings when at least half of any Trump-voting group wanted him to run again. His support is noticeably softer.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5577 on: July 20, 2022, 11:29:29 PM »
Georgia prosecutors say all 16 fake Trump electors are targets in criminal probe
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5578 on: July 21, 2022, 06:56:08 AM »
9/11 families to protest Trump's Saudi golf tournament on his own turf with Bedminster press event

Families of 9/11 victims are taking their fight against the government of Saudi Arabia directly to the home turf of former President Donald Trump.

In a new press release, the organization 9/11 Families United said it will be denouncing Trump's decision to host a Saudi-backed golf tournament next Tuesday with a press conference in Bedminster, New Jersey.

"While members of the Saudi-funded LIV golf tour prepare to continue 'sportswashing' the Kingdom's reputation by playing in another tournament on U.S. soil, 9/11 Families United and members of the 9/11 community will remind them next week yet again that Saudi Arabia provided support for al-Qaeda and the 9/11 hijackers."

The group then argued that it was particularly wrong to have a Saudi-hosted golf tournament just "50 miles from Ground Zero" and they also pledged to "discuss the recently declassified documents that demonstrate direct Saudi support for 9/11 hijackers."

The group has repeatedly called upon Trump to call off the tournament, although at the moment it appears he has no plans to do so.

Juliette Scauso, whose father was killed in the 9/11 terrorist attacks more than 20 years ago, told CNN this week that Trump's decision to host the Saudi tournament was "disgusting."

"Now he's taking money from them and profiting from the kingdom of Saudi Arabia," she said. "Meanwhile, the kingdom is currently awaiting trial in federal court against the 9/11 families over these attacks. You know, of course, we are awaiting that justice, but yeah, it's hard to find the words."



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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5579 on: July 21, 2022, 10:22:37 AM »
Donnie is a loser! Still begging GOP officials to steal the election for him.

Wisconsin GOP Leader Says Trump's Still Begging Him To Decertify 2020 Election



A top Republican in Wisconsin says former President Donald Trump swung and missed in an attempt to coax him into decertifying the state’s 2020 presidential election results.

Wisconsin State Assembly Speaker Robin Vos said Trump called him last week asking him to decertify President Joe Biden’s win in his state.

Vos told Wisconsin’s WISN-TV that the call followed the Wisconsin Supreme Court’s ruling earlier this month that limited absentee ballot drop-box locations to election offices.

Trump, after the ruling, falsely claimed on his Truth Social platform that the ruling meant he won Wisconsin because the state used “corrupt and scandal-ridden Scam Boxes.”

The former president later made a pitch to Vos and suggested he had a “decision to make” on the outcome of the election in the state.

Biden beat Trump in the state by fewer than 21,000 votes, and he received the state’s 10 Electoral College votes.

“It’s very consistent, he makes his case, which I respect. He would like us to do something different in Wisconsin,” Vos said of Trump’s call last week.

"I explained it’s not allowed under the Constitution. He has a different opinion, and then he put out the [post]. So that’s it.”

Vos referred to a post Trump later added to Truth Social that referred to him as a RINO, or “a Republican in name only.”

“Looks like Speaker Robin Vos, a long time professional RINO always looking to guard his flank, will be doing nothing about the amazing Wisconsin Supreme Court decision,” Trump wrote.

“The Democrats would like to sincerely thank Robin, and all of his fellow RINOs, for letting them get away with ‘murder.’”

Vos reiterated that the ruling, however, doesn’t “go back and say what happened in 2020 was illegal.”

“I think we all know Donald Trump is Donald Trump,” Vos said. “There’s very little we can do to control or predict what he will do.”

Trump, in a response to the interview on Tuesday night, continued to assert that it was Vos’ “time to act” in response to the ruling.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5580 on: July 22, 2022, 05:42:28 AM »
'Dereliction of duty': Retired generals and admirals slam Trump for 'endangering American lives' on Jan. 6



On Thursday, writing for The New York Times, several retired four-star generals and admirals tore into former President Donald Trump, arguing that his actions on January 6th, 2021 — and leading up to it — amounted to a "dereliction of duty."

The military leaders include Adm. Steve Abbot, Gen. Peter Chiarelli, Gen. John Jumper, Adm. James Loy, Adm. John Nathman, Adm. William Owens and Gen. Johnnie Wilson.

"In the weeks leading up to that terrible day, allies of Mr. Trump also urged him to hold on to power by unlawfully ordering the military to seize voting machines and supervise a do-over of the election. Such an illegal order would have imperiled a foundational precept of American democracy: civilian control of the military," they wrote. "Americans may take it for granted, but the strength of our democracy rests upon the stability of this arrangement, which requires both civilian and military leaders to have confidence that they have the same goal of supporting and defending the Constitution."

Compounding this, they wrote, was Trump's refusal to use necessary military resources to stop the attack on the Capitol.

"When a mob attacked the Capitol, the commander in chief failed to act to restore order and even encouraged the rioters. As Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, testified to Congress, Vice President Mike Pence attempted to fill the void by calling on the National Guard to intervene," they wrote. "Given the urgent need to secure the Capitol, Mr. Pence’s request was reasonable. Yet the vice president has no role in the chain of command unless specifically acting under the president’s authority because of illness or incapacitation, and therefore cannot lawfully issue orders to the military. Members of Congress, who also pleaded for military assistance as the mob laid siege to the Capitol, are in the same category."

"The principle of civilian control of the military predates the founding of the Republic," they concluded. "In 1775, George Washington was commissioned as the military commander of the Continental Army under the civilian command authority of the Second Continental Congress. The next year, among the grievances listed in the Declaration of Independence against King George III was his making 'the military independent of and superior to the civil power.' The president’s dereliction of duty on Jan. 6 tested the integrity of this historic principle as never before, endangering American lives and our democracy."

You can read more here: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/21/opinion/january-6-trump-military.html

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« Reply #5581 on: July 22, 2022, 04:17:08 PM »
Trump 'was the cancer in the center' of January 6th plot: Lincoln Project

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5582 on: July 23, 2022, 09:57:00 AM »
Former Trump aide Steve Bannon guilty in Jan. 6 contempt of Congress case

Former Trump White House aide Steve Bannon was found guilty Friday at his trial for contempt of Congress in a Washington, D.C., federal court.

Jurors took less than three hours of deliberations to convict Bannon of two counts of willfully failing to comply with subpoenas issued by the House select committee that is investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol by a mob of supporters of then-President Donald Trump.

Prosecutor Molly Gaston told jurors in her closing arguments that Bannon “chose allegiance to Donald Trump over compliance with the law.”




Former Trump White House aide Steve Bannon was found guilty Friday of two counts of contempt of Congress after a trial in federal court in Washington, D.C.

Jurors deliberated for less than three hours before convicting Bannon of willfully failing to comply with subpoenas demanding his testimony and records, which were issued last September by the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol by supporters of then-President Donald Trump.

He faces a minimum punishment of 30 days in jail and a maximum of one year when he is sentenced on Oct. 21. He also faces a fine in the range of $100 to a maximum of $100,000.

“The subpoena to Stephen Bannon was not an invitation that could be rejected or ignored,” said Matthew Graves, the United States Attorney for the District of Columbia.

“Mr. Bannon had an obligation to appear before the House Select Committee to give testimony and provide documents. His refusal to do so was deliberate, and now a jury has found that he must pay the consequences.”

Bannon plans to appeal his conviction, which came a day after the Jan. 6 committee held a public hearing that featured evidence that included his own words.

The committee played an audio clip of Bannon, speaking to a group of people on Oct. 31, 2020, days before the presidential election, in which he said that Trump would claim to have won the White House race regardless of the actual results.

“What Trump’s gonna do is just declare victory. Right? He’s gonna declare victory. But that doesn’t mean he’s a winner,” Bannon said. “He’s just gonna say he’s a winner.

That is exactly what Trump did for weeks after losing both the popular election vote and the Electoral College vote to President Joe Biden.

On Jan. 5, 2021, the eve of Congress holding a joint session to confirm Biden’s Electoral College victory, Bannon spoke to Trump on the phone for 11 minutes, and then went on a radio show where he made a dark prediction.

“All hell is going to break loose tomorrow,” Bannon said on that show. “It’s all converging, and now we’re on, as they say, the point of attack.”

“I’ll tell you this: It’s not going to happen like you think it’s going to happen,” he said. “It’s going to be quite extraordinarily different, and all I can say is strap in.”

The next day, thousands of Trump supporters who believed he had won the election besieged the Capitol, with hundreds of them swarming through the halls of Congress, disrupting for hours the session confirming the official results.

The leaders of the Jan. 6 committee lauded the jury’s decision Friday.

“The conviction of Steve Bannon is a victory for the rule of law and an important affirmation of the Select Committee’s work,” Rep. Bennie Thompson, the Mississippi Democrat who is chair of the Jan. 6 committee, and Vice Chair Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., said in a joint statement Friday afternoon.

“As the prosecutor stated, Steve Bannon ‘chose allegiance to Donald Trump over compliance with the law.’ Just as there must be accountability for all those responsible for the events of January 6th, anyone who obstructs our investigation into these matters should face consequences. No one is above the law,” Thompson and Cheney said.

Bannon had served as chief strategist and counselor to Trump for about a half-year before being ousted in mid-2017. Since then, however, he has been an ardent backer of the ex-president and the so-called MAGA — “Make America Great Again” — movement.

Two weeks after the Capitol riot, on his last night as president, Trump issued dozens of pardons, including one to Bannon, who had been criminally charged in federal court in New York with swindling donors in a purported effort to build a wall on the U.S. border with Mexico.

Prosecutors in that case said Bannon received $1 million in funds from the We Build the Wall group, and diverted that money to a separate nonprofit he had already created, whose ostensible purpose was “promoting economic nationalism and American sovereignty.”

In her closing arguments Friday morning at Bannon’s contempt trial, assistant U.S. Attorney Molly Gaston told jurors he “chose allegiance to Donald Trump over compliance with the law” by refusing to appear for testimony and give documents to the Jan. 6 committee.

“When it really comes down to it, he did not want to recognize Congress’ authority or play by the government’s rules,” Gaston said. “Our government only works if people show up. It only works if people play by the rules. And it only works if people are held accountable when they do not.”

Bannon’s lawyers did not present a defense during the trial, which began Monday with jury selection.

His attorneys were hamstrung by pretrial rulings by the judge in the case, who severely limited the evidence they could present at trial.

During his own closing arguments Friday, Bannon’s lawyer Evan Corcoran tried to suggest that Thompson did not sign a subpoena for Bannon, NBC reported. Corcoran dropped that line of argument after the prosecution objected.

Corcoran also asked jurors to set aside memories of Jan. 6 in their deliberations.

“None of us will soon forget January 6, 2021,” Corcoran said. “It’s part of our collective memory. But there’s no evidence in this case that Steve Bannon was involved at all. For purposes of this case we have to put out of our thoughts January 6.”

Jurors began their deliberations just before 11:40 a.m. ET, after closing arguments concluded. The verdicts were read out in court at around 2:50 p.m. ET.

Another former Trump aide, the trade advisor Peter Navarro, was arrested in early June on charges identical to the ones that Bannon was convicted of.

Navarro failed to appear to testify on March 2 in response to the subpoena from the House panel and also failed to produce by Feb. 23 the documents sought by that same subpoena, according to the indictment issued by a grand jury in Washington federal court.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/22/steven-bannon-jury-begins-deliberations-at-trump-aide-contempt-trial.html

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5583 on: July 23, 2022, 10:07:57 AM »
'Assemble the grand jury': Former GOP lawmaker calls for immediate prosecution of Donald Trump



A longtime Republican lawmaker and former secretary of defense called for a grand jury to investigate Donald Trump's efforts to overturn his election loss.

William Cohen, who represented Maine in the House and Senate for more than two decades before leading the Pentagon through Bill Clinton's second term, told MSNBC's "Morning Joe" that GOP lawmakers had shamed themselves by blaming him for the Jan. 6 insurrection but pledging to vote for him again.

"What? What are you saying?" Cohen said. "After you have seen everything he has done to the country you will vote for him? Is it party over country? Is it party over Constitution? You have ambition? Because you fear his supporters will attack you or your family? What is driving you to say, 'I know how bad he is, I know what he did for the country and I'll vote for him again if the party nominates him.' That, to me, is one of the real crimes of this case."

Cohen, who was one of the first Republican lawmakers to break with his party against Richard Nixon and voted for his impeachment, said Trump appears to have committed crimes.

"We're looking at whether he was a conspirator or co-conspirator," Cohen added. "I would suggest there's an element he could be charged with being an accessory before the fact and after the fact. Crimes were committed on Capitol Hill, and in traditional law enforcement if you are a participant by encouraging with a runaway car then you are an accessory before or after the fact. I think they have a look at the Justice Department, and I say make haste immediately, not slowly. Start the investigation if you haven't started or assemble the grand jury and bring in people, including the Secret Service."

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