Users Currently Browsing This Topic:
0 Members

Author Topic: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2  (Read 497537 times)

Offline Rick Plant

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8177
Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5760 on: August 26, 2022, 11:49:11 PM »
Advertisement
Saw this on Twitter today. 

Who falls for idiocy like this?

“My father informed me that you have reached GREAT KING MAGA status” so please send him some money.

Criminal Donald is a pathetic grifter. A real billionaire wouldn't be sending out scam emails to his gullible supporters begging them for money.   

The moron Trump supporter sends Criminal Donald their money because they reached the imaginary "MAGA King Status" according to Junior and Donnie. 

Donnie has always said he loves "the poorly educated" and his cult followers are. 

This bogus email is just like one of those Nigerian email scams.   


JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5760 on: August 26, 2022, 11:49:11 PM »


Offline Rick Plant

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8177
Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5761 on: August 27, 2022, 12:40:33 AM »
'That is the ball game': These 3 key affidavit details may suggest Trump indictment is coming

The Mar-a-Lago search warrant affidavit released in redacted form by the Department of Justice contains three key details that make it likely Donald Trump will be indicted, an expert in national security law concluded on Friday.

"I have finally seen enough. Donald Trump will be indicted by a federal grand jury," attorney Bradley Moss predicted in a new column published by The Daily Beast.

Moss summarized three "essential points."

"Trump was in unauthorized possession of national defense information, namely properly marked classified documents," he wrote. "He was put on notice by the U.S. Government that he was not permitted to retain those documents at Mar-a-Lago. He continued to maintain possession of the documents (and allegedly undertook efforts to conceal them in different places throughout the property) up until the FBI finally executed a search warrant earlier this month."

Moss explained the conclusion he arrived at based on those three points.

"That is the ball game, folks," Moss wrote. "Absent some unforeseen change in factual or legal circumstances, I believe there is little left for the Justice Department to do but decide whether to wait until after the midterms to formally seek the indictment from the grand jury."

Moss explained that he did not see any of the defenses Trump has offered as succeeding.

"All in all, this case should and in my opinion will result in an indictment," Moss wrote. "Sure, an indictment does not equal a conviction. Trump is still assumed innocent until proven guilty. There are unknown variables like whether the prosecution would occur in Florida or in D.C. We do not know what evidence Trump might have to substantiate his declassification claim. And we do not know what the courts would say about his various arguments. Get the popcorn ready either way."

Tristan Snell, who successfully prosecuted Trump University at the New York Attorney General's Office, said, "The DOJ’s Trump affidavit was basically an early draft of what will become the DOJ’s Trump indictment."

Read More Here: https://www.thedailybeast.com/its-over-trump-will-be-indicted

Offline Rick Plant

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8177
Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5762 on: August 27, 2022, 12:50:55 AM »
Footnote in Mar-a-Lago affidavit ‘makes it impossible’ to not indict Trump: legal expert

Legendary Harvard Law Prof. Laurence Tribe on Friday pointed to a key footnote in the redacted Mar-a-Lago search warrant affidavit that was released by the Department of Justice on Friday.

Trump was interviewed by CNN's Wolf Blitzer.

"What we saw in the unredacted portions is not just probable cause, but overwhelming evidence of three serious federal crimes, one of which was espionage," Tribe said. "And in footnote two of the of the affidavit on page 22, in footnote two, the affidavit explains that all of this stuff about the president's declassifying the material is bogus. not only was there no standing declassification order, but the espionage law doesn't make anything turn on whether something is called classified or not."

Tribe, who taught Attorney General Merrick Garland at Harvard Law, analyzed the change in the Department of Justice's position.

"What this does is point directly to Donald Trump in a way that will make it impossible for Merrick Garland not to seek an indictment," Tribe said. "Because unlike the complicated issues involved in the attempted coup and the insurrection, where Trump did his very best to keep he has fingerprints off of the actual manipulation of the electoral slates and all the rest, here, not only his fingerprints, but his distinctive handwriting is on the top-secret documents."

"You can't say that he didn't know that they were there," Tribe said. "He's been bragging that they belong to him and the department has no choice but to pursue the clear culprit, the person who was guilty, if you are to believe anything in this affidavit, guilty of obstruction of justice as well as violating the espionage law."

Tribe explained why he thinks DOJ has such a strong case.

Tribe said, "what was released makes the most convincing case that I've ever seen in seven years of teaching evidence law and over 40 years of teaching constitutional law, the most convincing case of serious crime at this stage in an investigation. So I think Merrick Garland certainly won, the country won."

"The one big loser, and he doesn't like to think of himself that way, is the former president.," he added.

Watch:


JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5762 on: August 27, 2022, 12:50:55 AM »


Offline Rick Plant

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8177
Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5763 on: August 27, 2022, 07:53:41 AM »
The 'terrifying' dots between Trump's classified documents and the Russian impostor at Mar-a-Lago



On Friday, Newsweek reported that a former CIA officer is speaking out about the "terrifying" confluence of unsecured classified documents at former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort, and the presence of a Russian impostor.

"Stephen L. Hall, a senior intelligence officer who oversaw intelligence operations in the former Soviet Union in the years following the Cold War, pointed to the possibility that Mar-a-Lago could have been infiltrated by foreign agents, including Inna Yashchyshyn — a Russian-speaking immigrant who the FBI says gained access to the club using a fake identification card," reported Nick Reynolds. "'The combination of this kind of person (and she's not the only one) getting into Mar a Lago and the presence of highly sensitive, unsecured documents there is terrifying,' Hall said Friday."

Previous reporting indicated that Yashchyshyn — who previously worked for an agency that helped pregnant Russian women come to the U.S. to deliver their children and give them American citizenship — falsely passed herself off as Anna de Rothschild, pretending to be a member of the famous Rothschild family.

This also comes as new information from the redacted affidavit to approve the FBI search warrant of Mar-a-Lago revealed the extent of highly classified information in just the 15 boxes Trump chose to hand back over to the National Archives.

"Numerous commentators have highlighted the apparent lack of security at Mar-a-Lago following the release of a heavily redacted affidavit describing a swath of classified material that was improperly secured within the Trump estate. Some of those documents were designated 'NOFORN,' meaning they were explicitly not to be accessed by any foreign nationals," said the report. Some commentators speculated that those documents had the opportunity to be accessed by just about anyone, given the numerous security lapses at a place former FBI official Ali Soufan once described in The Washington Post as 'the worst counterintelligence nightmare the country has faced since the Cold War.'"

In addition to the revelations about classified documents, one legal expert believes the affidavit also suggests a "significant" number of witnesses are cooperating against the former president.

AFP



'Terrifying' That Imposter, Secret Files Both at Mar-a-Lago: Ex-CIA Agent



A former CIA agent who oversaw intelligence operations in Eurasia and Latin America for decades suggested Friday there were ample opportunities for foreign adversaries to access the trove of classified documents revealed to have been kept at the home of former President Donald Trump.

Stephen L. Hall, a senior intelligence officer who oversaw intelligence operations in the former Soviet Union in the years following the Cold War, pointed to the possibility that Mar-a-Lago could have been infiltrated by foreign agents, including Inna Yashchyshyn—a Russian-speaking immigrant who the FBI says gained access to the club using a fake identification card.

"The combination of this kind of person (and she's not the only one) getting into Mar a Lago and the presence of highly sensitive, unsecured documents there is terrifying," Hall said Friday.

Julia Davis @JuliaDavisNews

The Secret Service more than likely didn’t run background checks to determine Yashchyshyn’s identity when she visited Trump’s estate, partly because the level of protection drops significantly when a president leaves office, said four former agents.



https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1563219302702268419

Numerous commentators have highlighted the apparent lack of security at Mar-a-Lago following the release of a heavily redacted affidavit describing a swath of classified material that was improperly secured within the Trump estate. Some of those documents were designated "NOFORN," meaning they were explicitly not to be accessed by any foreign nationals.

Some commentators speculated that those documents had the opportunity to be accessed by just about anyone, given the numerous security lapses at a place former FBI official Ali Soufan once described in The Washington Post as "the worst counterintelligence nightmare the country has faced since the Cold War."

In one incident in 2019, Yujing Zhang—a 33-year-old businesswoman from Shanghai—was found in possession of four cellphones, a laptop, and a thumb drive containing malware along with a hidden camera detector and several thousand dollars in cash. Two years earlier, a team of journalists with Gizmodo and ProPublica revealed significant vulnerabilities in the mansion's cybersecurity infrastructure using a 17-foot boat and a 2-foot wireless antenna that allowed easy access into the mansion's weakly encrypted Wi-Fi networks.

Then there's the security at the club itself. An investigation published by the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette Friday described Yashchyshyn's ability to access the grounds—and the former president—as a prime example of the "vulnerabilities of a facility that serves as both the former president's residence and a private club." The Secret Service assigned to Trump "more than likely" didn't run background checks on Yashchyshyn, the article said, due to the fact the level of protection drops significantly when a president leaves office.

That, plus the presence of highly classified documents, potentially creates a recipe for disaster, Hall said.

"Any adversarial foreign intel agency worth its salt would at least try to get at the classified improperly stored at Trump's beach resort," he added. "Including, but not limited to, the Chinese."

https://www.newsweek.com/stephen-l-hall-cia-agent-mar-largo-classified-secret-files-comment-1737503

Offline Rick Plant

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8177
Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5764 on: August 27, 2022, 10:44:45 AM »
'The former president is going to be prosecuted' says ex-FBI top attorney



Andrew Weissmann the former General Counsel of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, says former president Donald Trump will be indicted, based on his reading of the unsealed redacted affidavit used to obtain the “search and seize” warrant for Mar-a-Lago, unsealed by a federal judge Friday at noon.

“I have to say, when I read this today my big overarching takeaway is – and I know this is just a prediction and speculation, but I say it’s an educated one – is that the former president is going to be prosecuted,” said Weissmann, who began his DOJ career as a federal prosecutor successfully trying Mafia crime boss cases.

“I don’t see how you cannot” prosecute Trump, he continued. “Given this information, not just that it’s so clear that there is an active, thorough investigation and just how much was done here, but when you compare it to precedent, we compare it to General Petraeus, which happened when I was at the Bureau,” he said speaking of the former CIA Director who was arrested and prosecuted for sharing confidential material with his biographer.

“It is this, what we’re seeing is so much worse, both in terms of the volume [of documents], the length of time, and then the sort of repeated obstruction and false statements that were made,” Weissmann, who also served as the deputy director and then director of the FBI’s Enron Task Force, chief of the criminal fraud section of the U.S. Department of Justice, and then worked on the special counsel team headed by Robert Mueller.

“I don’t see if you’re somebody like Merrick Garland, who is a former judge who thinks about precedent, about treating like defendants equally, I don’t see how you avoid that conclusion in this case.”

David Laufman, a former Chief of the Counterintelligence and Export Control Section (CES) in the National Security Division at the Department of Justice (DOJ), says: “If I were President Trump and his attorneys, I’d be fearful of getting what’s called a ‘target letter’ in the not too distant future.”

Top national security lawyer Brad Moss agrees, “I have seen enough, folks. Donald Trump will be indicted in the classified documents matter. I’m placing my marker.”

Weissmann: When I read this today, my big overarching takeaway is.. that the former President is going to be prosecuted.

Watch: https://twitter.com/i/status/1563263204033122304



FBI says Donald Trump combined top secret documents with magazines and personal correspondence



Twice-impeached former president Donald Trump mixed personal correspondence and magazines with classified documents, according to the FBI.

The FBI raided his Palm Beach residence Mar-a-Lago on Aug. 8 and found that 14 of the 15 boxes recovered from Trump's home contained multiple classified and top secret documents combined with magazines, personal correspondence and miscellaneous newspapers.

U.S. Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart ordered the Department of Justice to make a redacted version of the affidavit public by Friday. According to the document, FBI agents found that 25 of the 184 documents marked classified at Trump's estate were at top secret.

Most of the affidavit was redacted and the FBI said it was necessary to protect the safety and privacy of a significant number of civilian witnesses as well as law enforcement personnel "to protect the integrity of the ongoing investigation.”

The 28-page affidavit noted that “evidence, contraband, fruits of crime, or other items illegally possessed” would be found at Mar-a-Lago.

In a May 25, 2022 letter to the Justice Department released along with the affidavit, a lawyer for Trump said classified information may have been "unknowingly included among the boxes brought to Mar-a-Lago by the movers."

The lawyer, M. Evan Corcoran, said Trump had "readily and voluntarily" cooperated with NARA's request that documents be returned and said any investigation should not "involve politics."

Corcoran asserted that a president has the "absolute authority to declassify documents" and the "criminal statute that governs the unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material does not apply to the president."

Government lawyers had opposed the release of the affidavit but the judge ordered it unsealed with redactions the Justice Department said were necessary to protect an ongoing investigation involving national security.

In its application for a search warrant, the Justice Department said the investigation was related to "willful retention of national defense information," an offense that falls under the Espionage Act, "concealment or removal of government records" and "obstruction of a federal investigation."

The warrant, which was personally approved by Attorney General Merrick Garland, authorized the FBI to search the "45 office" -- a reference to the 45th US president's private office at his Mar-a-Lago residence -- and storage rooms

In addition to investigations into his business practices, Trump faces legal scrutiny for his efforts to overturn the results of the November 2020 election, and for the January 6, 2021 attack on the US Capitol by his supporters.

Trump was impeached for a historic second time by the House after the Capitol riot -- he was charged with inciting an insurrection -- but was acquitted by the Senate.

AFP


Affidavit suggests 'significant number of civilian witnesses' flipped on Trump: legal analyst



The newly unsealed Department of Justice affidavit shows investigators relied on evidence from multiple sources to justify their search of Mar-A-Lago.

MSNBC's Joyce Vance said the heavily redacted document, which the FBI used to obtain their search warrant for Donald Trump's private resort, revealed their concerns that witnesses could face threats as part of an effort to obstruct their investigation of classified documents improperly removed from the White House.

"One very interesting tidbit we get from the legal memo that DOJ submitted to unseal the redacted version of the affidavit is what I think is the first effort to quantify the number of cooperating witnesses that DOJ had when they obtained this search warrant," said Vance, a former U.S. Attorney. "They're talking about the need to protect their witnesses from any sort of potential harm, and they say that there are a significant number of civilian witnesses. So we don't know -- is that five? Is that 10?"

"But I think it's important to realize here that DOJ was not just relying on one or two witnesses," she continued. "Likely this is, as they say, a significant number of civilian witnesses as well as people in law enforcement who need to be protected as this investigation moves forward, and that puts into context what we're looking at here."

"We're talking about a former president of the United States who's clearly taken with him when he left office materials, whether they're classified or not, that could do grave damage to our national security if they're disclosed in an inappropriate fashion, and not only is that former president resistant to returning those documents, also DOJ has legitimate reasons to believe that there are risk to witnesses who are helping complete this investigation," Vance added. "That should be a sobering moment for us to realize we're in this situation with former President Trump."

Government lawyers had opposed the release of the affidavit but the judge ordered it unsealed with redactions the Justice Department said were necessary to protect an ongoing investigation involving national security.

FBI agents raided Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida on August 8, seizing boxes containing a large amount of highly classified documents that Trump had not returned to the government despite multiple requests and a subpoena to do so.

The unredacted version of the affidavit likely explains in detail what the department is investigating in relation to Trump and could possibly reveal sources.

But Judge Bruce Reinhart accepted Justice Department arguments that there was a "compelling" need to mask significant portions of the document.

Reinhart had ordered the release of the redacted affidavit by noon (1600 GMT) on Friday -- and the fevered anticipation surrounding its publication caused the federal court website to crash.

Watch:





John Dean predicts Trump scandal will expand further: ‘I see a conspiracy’



Watergate figure John Dean predicted the Department of Justice investigation into government documents Donald Trump took to Mar-a-Lago would expand to a conspiracy bringing in other defendants beyond the former president.

Dean was interviewed by CNN anchor Kate Bolduan, following the release of a redacted Mar-a-Lago search warrant affidavit.

"George Conway was on the show last night," Bolduan noted. "The way he put it, he said he remains convinced, it represents the shortest distance between Donald Trump and an orange jumpsuit. After what you've seen in this document, how likely do you think charges -- how likely do you think charges could be coming for Donald Trump?"

"Well, I think we have a case clearly from this affidavit, the more we've seen of it, that it is moving along," Dean replied. "It is a sophisticated case, it looks like they're giving it a lot of priority and attention. Clearly, it has gone to the attorney general to get clearance for a search warrant. this is the kind of case that they're not fooling around with."

"I think it is more than just merely the concern to retrieve the documents that they've got to make the point," he continued. "As I read the affidavit, I see a conspiracy."

"I think there are many more people involved in this," Deans said. "I think some of them have not surfaced even on our radar yet. This is a big case. How close are we? I would say in three or four months we may know how it will shake out."

Watch:


JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5764 on: August 27, 2022, 10:44:45 AM »


Offline Rick Plant

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8177
Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5765 on: August 27, 2022, 04:38:50 PM »
Trump facing 'greater legal threat' from Georgia investigation than his Mar-a-Lago woes: legal expert

According to a leading trial lawyer in Georgia, Donald Trump has more to fear from the Fulton County grand jury looking into election tampering in the 2020 presidential election than he does from the Department of Justice's investigation into stealing top secret documents and keeping them at his Mar-a-Lago resort.

As Ronald Carlson of the University of Georgia’s law school explained in an interview with the Guardian, recent history has shown that the mishandling of documents has resulted in a slap on the wrist, but what Georgia is looking at could lead to serious criminal charges.

As the report from the Guardian's Chris McGreal notes, Trump has three major legal clouds hanging over him right now: the DOJ investigation, the New York investigation into financial fraud, and the Georgia grand jury looking into tampering.

As to the Georgia case, Carlson stated, "It’s a greater legal threat to the president and some of his followers than any of the other investigations which are going on right now. Some of the potential charges carry very serious penalties.”

"Carlson said that even if Trump were prosecuted for removing classified papers from the White House, other officials who have mishandled secret material received only misdemeanor convictions and probation, such as the former CIA director David Petraeus," McGreal wrote. "He said the New York investigations into allegations of financial fraud are focussed more on Trump’s businesses than on the former president. It remains unclear what, if any, criminal charges might come out of Congresses investigation into the 6 January, 2021 assault on Congress."

To make his case, Carlson explained, "The focus for this grand jury is solicitation of election fraud. Presumably most of the evidence that they’re receiving will focus on that. Then there will be making false statements to state or other governmental bodies. The creation of a slate of electors, which took the position that Trump had won the election, will come under that sort of umbrella. Then we’ll probably have the grand jury looking at criminal conspiracy and violation of oath of office."

"The special grand jury can sit until next May, giving it plenty of time to gather evidence. But unlike regular grand juries, which meet for only two months and issue indictments, it can only submit a report recommending prosecution. Willis must then decide whether to follow that recommendation and appoint a regular grand jury to seek an indictment against Trump or anyone else. Carlson predicted that if the special grand jury recommends prosecution, the district attorney will go ahead," the Guardian report states, with Carlson adding, "She’s a very vigorous and bold advocate. I believe that she will follow through.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/27/trump-georgia-investigation-grand-jury-election

Offline Rick Plant

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8177
Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5766 on: August 28, 2022, 08:13:47 AM »
Elise Stefanik's district is the 'front line in the battle for the soul of America': ex-CIA officer

After Democrats won a special election in a bellwether congressional district in upstate New York by focusing on abortion rights, the party's nominee in a bordering district is hoping energized women will retire the number three Republican in the House of Representatives.

"Several states have seen a surge in women registration to vote after the Supreme Court overturned Roe vs. Wade, with women on average making up 55% of new registrations post-Dobbs, compared to under 50% beforehand across ten states that analyzed by The New York Times," MSNBC's Ayman Mohyeldin reported. "And the increase offers rare concrete evidence that the Supreme Court decision has in fact galvanized voters, but particularly, female voters, the data gives little indication of whether the shift will be large enough or persistent enough to affect the outcome of the midterms."

Mohyeldin noted Democrats won a special election in New York's 19th congressional district on Tuesday and interviewed Matt Castelli, who is challenging Rep. Elise Stefanik, the chair of the House GOP Conference, in the neighboring 21st congressional district. Castelli is a former CIA officer who served in Afghanistan and Iraq and served as director of counterterrorism on Obama's National Security Council and stayed on for a year into the Trump administration before returning to the CIA.

"Democrat Pat Ryan won by hammering home the message protecting choice," Mohyeldin noted. "Your reaction to his win and how you see his results affecting your race?"

"The New York 19th race was, I think, a great signal for our race," Castelli replied. "Folks were looking at it as a potential bellwether for the midterms, i think it is also a bellwether for our race against congresswoman Elise Stefanik in upstate New York, in New York 21."

"So this is a good signal for our race, because we are turning our congressional race against Stefanik into one of the most important in the country. it is the front line against the battle for the soul of America," Castelli said. "The reason why this race is important is because Congresswoman Elise Stefanik is the messaging chief for the Republicans. Their message for the midterms is coming from her."

"She is the one who is leading the extremist war on women, despite being a woman herself," Castelli said. "We all know that the best way to combat this extremist threat is to show up and fight back."

Watch:


Offline Rick Plant

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8177
Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5767 on: August 28, 2022, 10:46:30 PM »
NYT Editorial Says Prosecuting Trump 'First Step' to End Democracy 'Crisis
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-crime-nyt-editorial-jan6-2020-election-1737273

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5767 on: August 28, 2022, 10:46:30 PM »