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« Reply #5776 on: August 30, 2022, 02:24:34 PM »
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'We are losing America!' Trump promotes multiple inflammatory memes while ratcheting up attacks on FBI

Former President Donald Trump spent early Tuesday morning whipping up violent anger toward his political enemies.

The former president amplified numerous posts from supportive accounts on his social media website, including one from the user "God & Country" that showed an extreme closeup of Trump's glowering face urging followers to possibly give up their lives -- an apparent copy of a Nike ad featuring former NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick that uses the same slogan and similar graphics.

"Believe in something," the post reads. "Even if it means sacrificing everything."

Trump helped end Kaepernick's career by whipping up anger against his silent protests of police brutality, but he gave his stamp of approval to that supportive post possibly targeting law enforcement for violence in response to the FBI search of Mar-A-Lago.

"We have no other choice," Trump posted. "We are losing America!"

The FBI has reported numerous threats against its agents and offices since a search warrant was executed at Trump's home, including an Ohio man shot and killed after attempting to attack a field office, and some Republican lawmakers, including Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), have suggested an indictment would set off street violence.

Trump also shared another post demonizing President Joe Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris and other top Democrats as enemies to the nation.

"Your enemy is not in Russia," the meme said.



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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5778 on: August 30, 2022, 03:58:21 PM »
Republicans face 'enormous frustration' as shoes keep dropping in Trump FBI investigation: report
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« Reply #5779 on: August 31, 2022, 05:17:02 AM »
Trump Is Having a Meltdown on Truth Social: False Claims, Angry Memes and ‘4chan and Q Messages
https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/2022/08/trump-is-having-a-meltdown-on-truth-social-false-claims-angry-memes-and-4chan-and-q-messages/

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« Reply #5780 on: August 31, 2022, 09:22:07 AM »
DOJ tells judge Trump is not 'entitled’ to Mar-a-Lago special master — and reveals key picture



The Justice Department filed its response to former President Donald Trump's request to appoint a court-appointed representative to sift through the documents taken from his golf course in Palm Beach to ensure there is no "privileged" information.

In the 36-page filing, the DOJ argued Trump's case should not be heard but that he would lose even if it were allowed. The filing included 18-pages of exhibits.

DOJ argued. Trump's "filings present three issues: whether [Trump] is currently entitled to the return of any property, to injunctive relief, and to the appointment of a special master. Not only does [Trump] lack standing to raise these claims at this juncture, but even if his claims were properly raised, [Trump] would not be entitled to the relief he seeks."

DOJ included a picture showing documents seized with highly classified markings, Politico's Kyle Cheney reported.


DOJ picture of documents seized at Mar-a-Lago.

"And if you look closely, you can see the HCS marking for human source intelligence," Cheney noted.

DOJ strongly suggested they were also focused on obstruction of justice.

“The government also developed evidence that government records were likely concealed and removed from the Storage Room and that efforts were likely taken to obstruct the government’s investigation,” DOJ argued. “That the FBI, in a matter of hours, recovered twice as many documents with classification markings as the ‘diligent search’ that the former President’s counsel and other representatives had weeks to perform calls into serious question the representations made in the June 3 certification and casts doubt on the extent of cooperation in this matter."

The FBI used what is referred to as a "filter team," in which a group of staffers unaffiliated with the DOJ prosecution team can sift through the information and pull out anything that could violate attorney/client privilege. Trump has conflated attorney/client privilege with executive privilege, which he no longer enjoys as he isn't the executive.

According to the Justice Department, the filter team has already gone through everything and categorized the privileged information. Documents that were classified or top secret have already been taken to the appropriate agency.

The "Special Master" that Trump has requested would be for attorney/client privilege. There isn't any kind of case law surrounding the FBI sifting through "executive privilege," but lawsuits involving such privilege typically go through Washington, D.C. courts since that's where the Office of the Executive is located.

Several of the U.S. Circuit have made rulings about filter teams and whether they have the power to go through privileged documents. In Trump's case, however, he didn't file an injunction to stop the FBI from sifting through the documents. In fact, Trump didn't even file anything for over two weeks after the search warrant was executed. Once Trump's lawyers did file something it was so poorly done that they were ridiculed by lawyers across the country.

Months ago, Attorney General Merrick Garland has said that under his leadership the Justice Department will only speak through action and its court filings. So when the DOJ asked the court for an additional page count for their filing responding to the request for the court appointee.

The judge presiding over the case, Aileen Cannon, was appointed by Trump after he lost the election. Before the DOJ had an opportunity to pitch their case, Judge Cannon indicated that she'd be finding for Trump in the matter.

Already Trump's classified information is causing international problems for the United States and its relationship with France.

Read more here: https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1564817161528692737



Republican Party refusing to pay Trump's legal bills over Mar-a-Lago documents scandal: report



ABC News reporter Jonathan Karl wrote in his post-Donald Trump administration book that on Jan. 20, as Trump was flying from the White House for the final time, he spoke to the head of the Republican Party and threatened to start his own party. RNC chair Ronna Romney McDaniel reportedly told Trump that if he started a third party that the RNC would stop paying his legal bills, which were costing the party millions.

Politico reported Tuesday, however, that that decision has ended. According to the report, any legal fees having to do with Trump's retention of government documents is not being paid by the RNC.

The report explained that Trump hired Chris Kise, a former Florida solicitor general, to represent him in the FBI search case, it was announced on Tuesday. Thus far, Trump has suffered with a legal team that is moving quickly to appear on television but not in filing a legal defense for their client.

Christina Bobb may be under her own legal problems after signing court documents saying that Trump had already turned over all of the documents. That turned out to be false.

Thus far, the legal team has argued that Trump isn't bound by the laws about handling classified material or stealing government documents. Sources close to Trump revealed that on multiple occasions he shouted, "They're mine!" That's false. As with past presidents, the presidential library will be able to possess papers, but not until they go through the archiving process from the National Archives. The government agency manages the documents even if they're in a presidential library, they explained in a press release dispelling Trump's accusation that Barack Obama stole 30,000 documents.

Politico also reported that for his legal services, Kise will be paid by Trump, who regularly stiffs lawyers and business partners when it comes time to sign off on the bill.

"A person familiar with the matter confirmed that the Republican National Committee is not paying for Trump’s legal fees related to the FBI’s investigation and retrieval of documents at Mar-a-Lago," Politico reported. "That’s a departure of sorts from the past. The RNC has, for example, paid for Trump’s legal bills involving New York Attorney General Tish James’ investigation into the former president’s private businesses. The committee would stop paying Trump’s legal fees should he formally declare his candidacy for president in the 2024 election — a step he has hinted at but has yet to take."

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https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/30/trump-florida-solicitor-general-mar-a-lago-probe-00054219

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« Reply #5781 on: August 31, 2022, 09:35:23 AM »
Justice Department memo exonerating Donald Trump was a 'fundamental betrayal': former solicitor general



Since leaving the White House, former President Donald Trump hasn’t been shy about lambasting former U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr— who he now despises for refusing to go along with the Big Lie and Trump’s false, totally debunked claim that widespread voter fraud occurred in the 2020 presidential election. Trump now views Barr as a Republican who, like former Vice President Mike Pence, didn’t have the courage to stick by him.

But before the election, Barr’s critics often slammed him for being a Trump loyalist who defended Trump vigorously after former Special Counsel Robert Mueller delivered his final report on Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. Attorney Neal Katyal, in an op-ed published by the New York Times on August 30, offers some reasons why a recently released March 24, 2019 memo paints such a troubling picture of Barr and his relationship with then-President Trump.

The memo, released by the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) on August 21, details Barr’s justifications for the DOJ clearing Trump of obstruction charges. These days, Trump views Barr as a traitor to the MAGA cause. But in 2019, he praised Barr as someone who had the backbone to come through for him in a way that former U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions didn’t.

“The memo released last week by the Justice Department closing the book on the report of Special Counsel Robert Mueller and his inquiry into Russian interference in the 2016 election is a frightening document,” explains Katyal, a former solicitor genreal who is often featured as a legal expert on MSNBC. “Critics have rightly focused on its substance, slipshod legal analysis and omission of damning facts. But the process by which that memo, sent in March 2019, came to be is just as worrisome.”

The attorney continues, “Delivered to the attorney general at the time, Bill Barr, the memo was written by two political appointees in the Justice Department. Mr. Barr used the memo to go around the special counsel regulations and to clear President Donald Trump of obstruction of justice. If left to fester, this decision will have pernicious consequences for investigations of future high-level wrongdoing."

Katyal goes on to offer some more reasons why he finds the March 24, 2019 memo so troubling. As Katyal sees it, the memo is an example of the United States’ system of checks and balances being undermined during the Trump years.

“The 2019 memo tendentiously argued that Mr. Trump committed no crimes — leaving the final decision on the matter to Republican-aligned appointees instead of to the independent special counsel,” Katyal notes. “The challenge in devising the regulations was to develop a framework for the prosecution of high-level executive branch officials — which is harder than it sounds, because the Constitution requires the executive branch to control prosecutions. So, we are left with one of the oldest philosophical problems: Who will guard the guardians?”

During Mueller’s investigation, many MAGA Republicans tried to paint him as a Democratic partisan — even though the former FBI director was a conservative and a lifelong Republican who had been on very friendly terms with the George W. Bush Administration. But during the Russian investigation, Mueller’s admirers often praised him for valuing country over party. When Democrats and Never Trump conservatives used the word “institutionalist” to describe Mueller in 2017 or 2018, it was meant as high praise.

A special counsel in a federal investigation, Katyal stresses, needs to be someone who is independent rather than partisan — which Special Counsel Mueller was. But Barr, Katyal laments, undermined Special Counsel Mueller’s work in the end.

“We created the role of special counsel to fill a void — to concentrate in one person responsibility and ultimate blame so that investigations would not be covered up from the get-go and to give that person independence from political pressure,” Katyal writes. “It is outrageous that Mr. Barr acted so brazenly in the face of this framework. The point of requiring a special counsel was to provide for an independent determination of any potential criminal wrongdoing by Mr. Trump. But the political appointees in his Justice Department took what was the most important part of that inquiry — the decision of whether he committed crimes — and grabbed it for themselves. This was a fundamental betrayal of the special counsel guidelines not for some principle, but because it protected their boss, Mr. Trump.”

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https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/08/bill-barr-donald-trumpjustice-department-mueller-obstruction-memo



'Trump is one with the fringe and crazy': Nicolle Wallace unloads on latest Truth Social rants



Donald Trump's social media website has been authorizing QAnon fanatics, but now Trump insiders on the site have taken the next step to promoting the QAnon world of conspiracy theories.

Speaking about the shocking morning of memes that Trump reposted, MSNBC reporter Ben Collins explained that Trump shared a meme referring to "The Storm," a QAnon conspiracy that says the so-called "deep state," Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and Joe Biden will be "rounded up and executed in public."

"This is a very dark space for the ex-president to be headed," said Collins.

QAnon forums have been quiet lately, he said because they ran out of hope that Trump was secretly still running the country, or that he would somehow rise to power. Trump sharing their posts has fired them up again, said Collins. One of the posts from the former president said, “nuke them from orbit” a reference to Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton suggesting bombing them. Commenters begged for Trump to kill them in the comments.

"Your Twitter feed is the stuff of my nightmares," MSNBC host Nicolle Wallace said of the screen captures Collins had posted. She said that she's been sending it around to political folks

She went on to cite a comment from Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT), saying, "I just think everyone, including the mainstream press, needs to take seriously the growing culmination between Trump's operation, the extremist 4chan/Q crowd and the monarchist new right." She also played a clip of FBI Director Christopher Wray, who was appointed by Trump. Wray warned that there is a growing domestic terrorism movement from these groups.

Earlier Tuesday, it was revealed that the Google App store would not provide the Truth Social app to users because they don't have content moderation systems in place to ensure they could comply with the terms of service for Google's App store.

"There's such a -- I grapple with it myself — I did all day preparing for this hour," confessed Wallace. "There's such a temptation to say, 'it's the whack jobs,' 'it's the fringe,' 'it's not the mainstream.' But it feels like an urgent political mission -- and I think that's the point of Chris Murphy's tweet -- to explain that Donald Trump is one with the fringe and the crazy and the belief system that, again, is at the very intersection of ideology and domestic violent extremism."

Pollster Cornell Belcher explained that even if 5 percent of Americans buy into the QAnon conspiracies about assassinations, that's still 20 million Americans. Matthew Dowd noted that many of them are also armed, which the United States in a dangerous situation.

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« Reply #5782 on: August 31, 2022, 09:50:27 AM »
Team Trump keeps admitting to an ongoing crime



As the president, Donald Trump ran the country as an extension of his personal real-estate fiefdom. As the former president, he’s taking an equally lawless attitude toward the classified materials that he removed from the White House at the end of his term.

Trump reportedly rebuffed advisors who urged him to return boxes of presidential records stashed at Mar-a-Lago, saying, “They’re mine.” Trump has even ordered his lawyers to recover all the documents the FBI recovered from Mar-a-Lago. Astonishingly, his legal team appears to be laying the groundwork to challenge the seizure.

The ludicrous claim that Trump owns these documents undercuts his excuse for having any records in his home in the first place. By law, the outgoing president must turn over all records for posterity.

Not just the sensitive, classified or privileged.

All of them.

Trump’s lawyers claim that overzealous General Services Administration movers inadvertently removed the 15 boxes of documents from the White House and took them to Mar-a-Lago. It was all a misunderstanding, see?

If so, why was the National Archives locked in months of bitter negotiation just to get the first 15 boxes back? The accident excuse is also hard to square with reporting from the Post that Trump personally and furtively supervised the packing – out of sight of even his close aides. Incidentally, the GSA flatly denies packing those boxes.

The National Archives won the protracted custody battle for the boxes in early 2022, a year after Trump left office. When they were returned, staff found a trove of highly sensitive national defense information, including hundreds of pages marked as “classified.”

Some were labeled “HCS,” for Human Intelligence Control System. These materials are closely guarded because they can reveal the identities of CIA informants, critical intelligence assets who could be killed if their cover is blown. Others were marked ORCON, which means that the agency that originally classified the document must approve further dissemination.

Archive staffers informed the Justice Department, which kicked off the criminal investigation into the mishandling of classified information and obstruction of justice.

Trump had another chance to come clean on June 3 when FBI investigators arrived at Mar-a-Lago to remove additional records, which had been subpoenaed by a grand jury. Team Trump handed over a few more scraps of sensitive material that day, and at least one of his lawyers signed a document attesting that there was no more.

During that visit, Trump’s lawyers showed the FBI a basement storage area where documents had been kept. After the visit, Justice Department lawyers told Team Trump to secure the room and not touch anything.

Evidently, there was still something worth safeguarding in there. Moreover, if Team Trump started shifting documents around after the Justice Department specifically told them not to, they could be committing obstruction of justice.

Keep in mind that it was illegal for Trump to be hanging on to any presidential records, let alone priceless government secrets. By showing the basement cache of presidential records to the FBI, Team Trump was admitting to an ongoing crime.

Later that month, Trump was hit with another subpoena, this time for the surveillance footage of the storage room. The footage reportedly showed boxes being moved in and out of the storage room shortly after one of Trump’s contacts with the Justice Department.

The Justice Department clearly believed that there were more sensitive documents at Mar-a-Lago, hence the search on August 8. The search yielded 11 sets of classified documents, which were removed from Trump’s bedroom, office and basement.

The affidavit that supplied the probable cause for the search was unsealed Friday, in a highly unusual move. The unredacted portions of the document reveal little about why the FBI expected to find not only additional classified documents but also evidence of obstruction of justice. The Justice Department cited the need to safeguard witnesses from harassment as one reason for redactions. That seems to confirm speculation that one or more sources inside Mar-a-Lago cooperated with the FBI.

If the affidavit seems underwhelming, it’s because the probable cause is already in plain sight. No one disputes that Trump removed more than 15 boxes of records at the end of his term.

He fought to hang onto them for nearly a year.

When Trump got one last chance to hand over the documents, his lawyer lied and said they’d all been returned. The subpoenaed surveillance footage may even have captured Team Trump’s attempts to hide documents from investigators.

Trump’s boasts that he owns the documents are undercutting his lawyers’ attempts to portray a brazen theft as an accident.

All evidence points to Trump knowingly and willfully removing classified documents for his own purposes.

Read More Here: https://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-11-sets-classified-documents-mar-a-lago-raid-2022-8



'Doesn't hold water': Watergate prosecutor blasts Trump's demands to slow down FBI investigation



On Tuesday's edition of MSNBC's "The Beat," Watergate prosecutor Nick Akerman laid out the key problems with former President Donald Trump's demand that a federal judge appoint a special master to review the documents the FBI seized from Mar-a-Lago as part of their probe into mishandled classified information.

"What do you see going on here?" asked anchor Ari Melber.

"Well, I think there is really no need for a special master at this point," said Akerman. "They've already gone through it. They went through it before the judge even issued her initial order this week. They found some documents that may be covered by attorney-client privilege, but they've really completed their task. There's nothing else. Trump's claim of executive privilege really doesn't hold water. All those documents belong to the government. The executive privilege belongs to the current executive, not to Donald Trump."

Akerman continued that he doesn't think this suit — being heard by a Trump-appointed judge sympathetic to the former president's claim — will significantly delay the investigation. "The government knows what these documents are ... they've all been cataloged. They probably have all been fingerprinted at this point, so there really is nothing for a special master to do, even if he were appointed. So the investigation will go forward. There's a grand jury presumably sitting in the District of Columbia that's doing this. It's not in Florida. The only reason it's happening in Florida is, because under the law, the Justice Department is required to get a search warrant in the district in which the search warrant is being executed. So, the investigation itself through the FBI, agents, the grand jury, it's not going to stop. There's no way — if Trump thinks this is some way to stop the clock, or to run the clock, it's not going to happen here, because the investigation will go forward."

Making the problem even worse, noted Akerman, is that the judge would have to make sure the special master has the clearance to review the documents in the first place.

"You have to have someone who has a high classified information category," said Akerman. "It's got to be somebody who's passed a very rigorous standard of being able to look at these documents. So even if the judge were to appoint somebody tomorrow, it's going to take a few days for somebody to be cleared for classified information. I've done this most recently. You spend the whole day just filling out the form. They ask you everything you've ever done in your entire life, and you have to lay it all out accurately or you're in trouble."

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« Reply #5783 on: August 31, 2022, 10:01:06 AM »
Timeline comes into focus for possible Trump prosecution in Georgia

A Georgia prosecutor offered a preview of where her investigation of former President Donald Trump is headed.

Fulton County district attorney Fani Willis gave an update of the special grand jury investigation into Trump's efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss, saying during a press conference on an unrelated case that she expected her probe to conclude by January, reported the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

“As you know, many people are unsuccessfully fighting our subpoenas,” Willis told reporters. “We will continue to fight to make sure that the grand jury and the public gets the truth, and I am very hopeful by the end of the year that I’ll be able to send this grand jury on their way.”

A judge on Monday rejected Gov. Brian Kemp's attempt to block his testimony in the case, but agreed that his deposition should be postponed until after November's election, when he's facing a rematch against Democrat Stacey Abrams, and Willis bristled when a reporter suggested she had politicized the probe.

“I’ve been very specific and determined to get rid of that accusation that this is just some political stunt and we were trying to impact the election,” Willis said.

Trump's anger at Kemp has seemingly cooled in recent months, and he has stopped calling for the governor's defeat, but the state's Democrats say he's “terrified of angering Trump and getting bullied again.”

“The question for Kemp is the same as ever: Do you stand with truth or Trump? You can’t have it both ways,” Jason Carter, the Democratic nominee for governor in 2014. “The sad thing is, he knows it. He knows Trump is a dangerous bully and he still won’t stand up to him.”

If the special grand jury issues a recommendation for possible criminal charges by early next year, Willis could then convene a regular grand jury, which is authorized to hand up indictments.

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DOJ has an ‘obligation’ and can then ’deal with the repercussions of MAGA violence: Alberto Gonzalez

Former George W. Bush Attorney General Alberto Gonzales argued on CNN on Tuesday that current Attorney General Merrick Garland has an obligation to enforce the law and should not be deterred by Donald Trump supporters threatening violence if their MAGA leader is arrested.

CNN's Kasie Hunt played a clip of President Joe Biden discussing the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol while campaigning in Pennsylvania.

"My Republican friends in Congress, don't tell me you support law enforcement if you won't condemn what happened on the 6th," Biden said. "Don't tell me."

"What do you make of that?" Hunt asked. "President Biden responding to President Trump and many of his supporters?"

"You know, I would go a little but further," Gonzales replied. "I would say don't tell me you believe in the rule of law, don't tell me you believe in democracy, if you are not willing to condemn what happened on Jan. 6 so listen, i think we have issues on both sides of the aisle, quite frankly, but I certainly agree with the sentiment that don't tell me that you support the police if you're not willing to condemn what happened on Jan. 6."

"He also talked," Hunt said. "President Biden talked at some length about political violence and he seemed to be responding to Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) when he said, if such and such, this is President Biden, if such and such happens, there will be blood in the streets. of course, potentially referring to Lindsey Graham saying over the weekend that there would be riots in the streets in the event that the former president is indicted over the search down at Mar-a-logo. What was your take on the president's pushback to those comments?"

"Let me comment first on Sen. Graham's comments, which I thought were terrible, quite frankly," Gonzales said. "The notion that there should be any kind of violence in response to what may happen in our courts, again, the procedure is going to go according to the Constitution. Former President Trump, if he is in fact charged and tried, it will be pursuant to the protections afforded any defendant in our country."

"And so, you know, whatever the repercussions or outcome of anything that happens with respect to the search at Mar-a-Lago, there shouldn't be violence in response to that," Gonzalez continued. "So I condemn what Sen. Graham said. I think it was inappropriate and I think it was wrong."

Gonzales said that if Garlarnd, "believes a crime has been committed and he believes he can prove that crime, beyond a reasonable doubt in our courts, then he has an obligation to move forward. The most he can do at that point is of course prepare, have the federal government prepare for any kind of reaction that may arise as a result of the charges, as a result of the trial, as a result of a conviction. But make no mistake about it, he has an obligation as the attorney general to make sure that crimes are prosecuted. and you know, and deal with the repercussions when they occur."

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