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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6168 on: May 30, 2023, 10:37:10 PM »
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6169 on: May 30, 2023, 10:48:00 PM »
Turns out Trump and or his people specifically told Evan Corcoran not to search Trump’s *office* for classified documents and then tell the DOJ there weren’t any. That’s specific enough to be textbook felony obstruction of justice. But there’s a lot more to it than just that.

Keep in mind, while this is newly reported, it’s old news. This is the testimony that Jack Smith successfully fought to obtain from Corcoran months ago. It’s why the courts struck down attorney client privilege and ordered the testimony. So why is it coming out publicly now?

The media doesn’t obtain this information by magic. It comes from someone involved with the process who actually knows these details, and decides to give them to the media for some specific strategic reason. And only a very small handful of people would know this information.

Corcoran would know. He could be the media’s source. But cooperators like Corcoran don’t usually talk to the media, because they’re already on the prosecutor’s good side, and talking to the media could anger the prosecutors.

Whoever in Trump’s camp told Corcoran not to search the office could also theoretically be the source. But no one leaks to the media about how guilty they are. If this were coming from that person, the leak would be about how innocent they are.

Prosecutors, even quiet ones, often strategically leak certain details near the very end.

One reason is to let someone know they’re nailed and that they’d better cooperate – which this could easily be.

But even without knowing who’s now giving this to the media, keep in mind that Corcoran already gave this same testimony to the grand jury months ago. This case is over.

These kinds of leaks after the fact are a sign of last minute positioning before indictments happen.

Anything coming out right now about the classified documents probe, Jack Smith has already had it for months. This isn’t new information, it’s just newly public. What’s intriguing is that it’s now all starting to come out. Shows we’re at the end and indictments are forthcoming.

For instance today it was reported that the Trump team told attorney Evan Corcoran not to search Trump’s office, and to tell the DOJ it had been searched. This isn’t new, it’s just new to us. Corcoran surely told Jack Smith about this a very long time ago.

In fact the entire court battle over Corcoran’s testimony was all about this kind of thing. The DOJ was able to convince the courts to strike attorney client privilege and have Corcoran testify *because* it knew about this kind of criminal obstruction.

So none of this is new to Jack Smith and the grand jury. This is old news. Remember, the classified docs probe is done, and the grand jury reportedly hasn’t met in weeks. It’s all already happened. The indictments may have even happened already under seal.

There are other aspects of Jack Smith’s Trump probe that may still be ongoing. But even that stuff is *way* ahead of what the media has.

Everything we’re hearing about this probe is on a severe delay. And frankly, the media isn’t being transparent about that.

For instance, it was recently reported that Smith has subpoenaed Trump’s international financial records. But the original reporting didn’t admit until like paragraph ten that the subpoena happened a long time ago. And most other media outlets hyped it as if the subpoena was new.

The media doesn’t like to have to advertise that the “new” leaks it’s getting are actually about things that happened months ago, so it downplays that part, and lets you mistakenly assume these things are just now happening today, or were previously unknown to prosecutors.

The Guardian obtained the exclusive on Corcoran so read it in the link below.   

Trump lawyer said to have been waved off searching office for secret records
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/30/evan-corcoran-trump-lawyer-waved-off-secret-document-search

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6170 on: May 31, 2023, 10:47:08 AM »
Report: Trump’s Lawyer Revealed Some Unfortunate Things for Trump in Classified-Docs Case
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/05/donald-trump-evan-corcoran-documents-investigation


Trump Lawyer Wasn’t Allowed to Search for Classified Documents in Mar-a-Lago Office

Evan Corcoran was stopped by someone from searching the exact place where many of Trump’s classified documents were kept.



Donald Trump’s lawyer says he was prevented from searching for classified documents in the former president’s office at Mar-a-Lago, where the FBI later found the most sensitive materials kept at the resort.

Evan Corcoran found 38 classified documents in the estate storage room last June following a Department of Justice subpoena, and he told the department that that was all there was to be found. The FBI raided Mar-a-Lago two months later and seized 101 additional classified documents, including from Trump’s office. The documents found in the office were some of the most highly classified of the entire batch.

Corcoran told associates that several Trump aides told him all materials brought from the White House after Trump left were kept in the storage room, so he only needed to search there, The Guardian reported Tuesday. Corcoran said he asked whether he should search the office too, but was sent away from the room and never allowed to search it.

Corcoran did not specify who steered him away from the office, whether it was Trump himself or an aide.

U.S. Judge Beryl Howell ordered Corcoran to comply with a grand jury subpoena for testimony on six different lines of inquiry. She also ordered him to hand over records of Trump’s alleged “criminal scheme,” including handwritten notes, invoices, and transcriptions of personal audio recordings.

Some of those notes revealed that Corcoran had warned Trump about needing to comply with the Justice Department’s subpoenas. The notes reveal that Trump and his valet, Walt Nauta, knew exactly where and when Corcoran was planning to search for the documents at Mar-a-Lago. Nauta had previously testified that Trump asked him to move boxes out of the storage room both before and after the subpoena was issued.

According to Corcoran’s notes, Nauta had offered to help him look through the boxes in the storage room, which Corcoran declined. But Corcoran took breaks during the multiday search, leaving the storage room unattended multiple times. The Guardian reported that it is possible prosecutors are investigating whether Nauta knew exactly what was in the boxes he was moving.

Bombshell reporting by the Guardian that revealed Donald Trump's former attorney, Evan Corcoran, was repeatedly "steered away" from classified documents by Trump's aides were at the center of discussion on MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace show Tuesday.

Guardian reporter Hugo Lowell revealed Corcoran was tasked with helping the former president find classified documents at Mar-a-Lago to comply with a Justice Department subpoena, but the aides diverted him away from Trump's office, saying the papers were in a storage room.

In the end, many classified documents were found in the office.

"[Corcoran] recounted that several Trump aides had told him to search the storage room because that was where all the materials that had been brought from the White House at the end of Trump’s presidency ended up being deposited," reported Lowell.

"Corcoran found 38 classified documents in the storage room. He then asked whether he should search anywhere else but was steered away, he told associates. Corcoran never searched Trump’s office and told prosecutors that the 38 papers were the extent of the material at Mar-a-Lago."

The mystery that Wallace's guests tried to get to the bottom of was, who was it who steered Corcoran away from them?

"It's like the game of Clue," she said, "where we are out of other characters. Who would have lied to Evan Corcoran?"

Wallace spoke with Washington Post reporter Carol Leonnig, who had previously been on the show to discuss Trump's "long history of mishandling classified documents."

"When you separate the things in the boxes, it's at the heart of the classified materials case, and the movement and relocation and obfuscation about the location of the boxes and their contents is at the heart of the obstruction case," Wallace said.

She read the Justice Department filing that specifically cited Corcoran being told the documents were in "one location, a storage room at the premises."

Wallace compared it to a game of Clue, with characters aiming to mislead Corcoran from finding the truth.

"There are a lot of lawyers in town who say they know how they would have done it if they had to search for classified records to comply with an FBI subpoena, and the way to do that was to ask their client where are all the possible places the materials could be?" said Leonnig.

"It's not clear if Corcoran had that direct conversation with Donald Trump, although it's possible. I think I'd like to flip this on its head a little bit and say it's been clear for many, many months that Jack Smith is working towards making some charging decisions and is likely going to bring charges."

She cited two things that Smith must establish: Firstly, if Trump worked indirectly or directly to keep the government from getting the records, and secondly that he knew what he was doing and knew classified materials were in the collection.

"The two things are critical to bringing the kind of charges that are being considered now and mentioned in government pleadings," Leonnig continued. "And Evan Corcoran — what is it Evan Corcoran was told? Sources have told to us over and over again he was consistently advised by all staff to Donald Trump that the only place records were kept that had been shipped from the White House, and the only place where records that might have classification markings could be, was the same place. That storage closet, inside a larger storage room, where other items like vodka and pastry dough were kept.

"But in that closet was where those documents could be. So, who told Evan Corcoran that? Most lawyers say I would have asked my client, 'where else do I look?' We don't know that Donald Trump directly told Evan Corcoran this, but Jack Smith is piecing together who told Evan Corcoran and who told those people. Many, many staff advised Corcoran that's the only place you need to look."

The Post also reported that Trump and his aides had a dress rehearsal for moving the boxes of documents in May 2022.

Wallace played clips of Trump telling Sean Hannity and Kaitlan Collins that he had the right to take documents from the White House so he could look through them and show them to whoever he wanted.

"There's no denial," Wallace said. "His defense is he had the right to do it."

Former federal prosecutor Harry Litman stepped into Wallace's debate and questioned, "Who could possibly issue the ultimate orders that would make (Trump's personal aide) Walt Nauta or Corcoran look in the storage room, I think there's only one person here when a subpoena has been received in response to who would take it on their shoulders."

Litman said that it's clear Corcoran was likely asked in the grand jury who told him that the documents were only in one place. He added he thinks the grand jury would still be sitting if that question hadn''t been answered.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6171 on: May 31, 2023, 11:07:43 AM »
So, Donnie has now turned on his own former press secretary Kayleigh McEnany, who was best known for her nonstop lying to the media and now has a gig at Faux News where she continues to lie.

If you want proof that it’s all over for Donnie, look no further than the fact that so many of his most notorious sidekicks are now selfishly moving on from him. They know he's headed for prison. And if you want proof that Donnie knows it’s all over for himself, look at how angrily and bitterly he keeps attacking his former sidekicks.

But the real story here is that yet another of Donnie's former loyalists is now very disloyally moving on. And why would they stick around? Donnie is going to prison. Everyone knows it. If these folks thought there was any chance there would ever be another Trump administration, they’d be trying to stay on Trump’s good side. Instead they’re not concerned about dealing with him in the future at all, because they know he has no future.

Here's Donnie's rage "tweet" against Kayleigh on his failed social media site:


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6172 on: May 31, 2023, 09:52:41 PM »
Trump captured on tape talking about classified document involving potential attack on Iran: CNN



Federal prosecutors are in possession of an audio recording of Donald Trump in which the former president admits he kept a classified document describing a potential attack on Iran, CNN reports.

Trump is heard on the recording suggesting that, although he wishes to share the information, he’s aware that as a former president he can’t declassify them, multiple sources told the cable news channel, indicating he understood he was in possession of classified material.

CNN has not heard the audio.

The part of the recording in which Trump discusses the Iran document is about two minutes long and part of a larger conversation, according to the report.

Katelyn Polantz, Paula Reid, and Kaitlan Collins write for CNN that “Special counsel Jack Smith, who is leading the Justice Department investigation into Trump, has focused on the meeting as part of the criminal investigation into Trump’s handling of national security secrets. Sources describe the recording as an ‘important; piece of evidence in a possible case against Trump,' who has repeatedly asserted he could retain presidential records and ‘automatically’ declassify documents.”

According to the report, prosecutors have interviewed witnesses before a federal grand jury about the about the recording and the document, and Gen. Mark Milley, was also questioned.

Polantz, Reid, and Collins further write that, “The revelation that the former president and commander-in-chief has been captured on tape discussing a classified document could raise his legal exposure as he continues his third bid for the White House.”

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6173 on: June 01, 2023, 03:15:31 AM »
The mainstream media, legal and security experts are now finally saying what I've been saying all along, that Criminal Donald will be indicted for espionage and will be headed to prison. This new bombshell evidence that was reported today of Donnie bragging on tape that he held sensitive classified documents on Iran, makes it a lock for Donnie being indicted for espionage and rotting in prison for the rest of his life. 

Security expert Ryan Goodman has an excellent Twitter thread highlighting this latest bombshell evidence. Make sure to read it, but I will highlight two of his most important points below:

Ryan Goodman @rgoodlaw

Bombshell in MAL investigation.

I'll discuss 7pm ET @ErinBurnett @OutFrontCNN
 
"Audio recording" in which Trump "acknowledges he held onto a classified Pentagon document about a potential attack on Iran"

Scoop by @kpolantz @PaulaReidCNN @kaitlancollins


Read Twitter thread here: https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1664004353047293953


Ryan Goodman @rgoodlaw

Audio recording is a meeting with several people who don't have security clearances.

If Trump discussed content of document it is even worse - and raises its own criminal exposure.

These individuals are all likely good witnesses, with disincentive to lie given their number.




Make no mistake. This is squarely an Espionage Act case. It is not simply an "obstruction" case.

There is now every reason to expect former President Trump will be charged under 18 USC 793(e) of the Espionage Act.

The law fits his reported conduct like a hand in glove.




https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1664004353047293953



'This is game over': Former FBI top lawyer predicts 'conviction' of Trump after classified doc tape



Former FBI general counsel Andrew Weissmann warned that the new tape recording of Donald Trump bragging that he had classified documents that he wanted to show people, if verified, could be the final straw leading to Trump's conviction.

"If this reporting is true, and I'm trying not to use hyperbole, this is game over," said Weissmann. "There is no way that he will not be charged. One, it is a tape recording. Even though the reporting is there are also witnesses, so there could be a tape recording with witnesses, it involves not just possession of classified information, but the dissemination of classified information. That puts it into a completely different ballpark when you are at the Department of Justice examining the seriousness of the violation and whether to bring charges."

He explained that it also adds another crime, whereas before, it was simply the possession of the documents, refusal to give them over, and obstruction of an investigation. Now, a separate crime would be to disseminate.

"And it differentiates Joe Biden an Mike Pence," he continued. Both men were found to have documents, including some classified information. They responded by immediately handing it over. Trump did not. "So from a political perspective, it is huge because there is no evidence this happened with respect to President Biden or former Vice President Pence. The information is not just classified information. It is one of the most sensitive types of classified information, which is war plans involving a potential attack on Iran. So, from every single aspect of this, if this reporting is accurate and there is this tape recording, there will be an indictment and it is hard to see how given all the evidence that we've been talking about that there will not be a conviction here. I mean, this is a tape recording."

Weissmann went on to list all of the crimes that are involved based on the federal statutes, espionage charges, or a violation of the Espionage Act. Another is that it is a crime to possess national defense information and it is a crime to disseminate it.

"And here it apparently is shared with people who don't have clearance to get this information," he explained. "And again this — this is not like a foot fault. These are war plans given to people who have no clearance to get it. It is hard to imagine — this is their worst nightmare as to what they were thinking would happen with this information which is that Donald Trump was at the very least lax in how he was handling it and it is going to have huge repercussions within the intelligence community in terms of making sure that this is not the only thing that was disseminated."

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6174 on: June 01, 2023, 09:48:08 AM »
'Incredibly powerful': ex-federal prosecutor explains why Trump should be worried about tapes



The audio recording in which Donald Trump can reportedly be heard discussing a classified document should worry the former president in part because of the nature of that medium when it comes to a jury, a former U.S. Attorney said Wednesday evening.

Joyce Vance, speaking on MSNBC's The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle, was asked if the newly reported audio tapes represented a "huge deal" in Jack Smith's investigation into Trump's actions surrounding the documents.

"I think you are right, it is a huge deal and it is tough based on what we know right now to assess exactly what it meant," Vance told the host. "Is this a whole new charge that Smith will be able to bring against trump?"

Vance noted that, at the very least, the article describes retention of a document.

"It doesn't have to be classified under the Espionage Act. It's enough that its national defense information. But this is both," she added. "So it could be a separate charge."

However, she added that the audio recording could be most powerful in terms of a jury trial.

"It's also powerful, unbelievably powerful to play a tape recording for a jury and to have them here the defendants essentially confess that he knew that he could not de-classify information on the spot," she said. "Also that he had retained classified material after leaving the presidency."

Vance also noted that this event is unique because it happened in Bedminster, not Mar-a-Lago.

"There's always been some confusion about what precisely the role of Bedminster in storage or post-presidency is for Trump. We've all seen pictures of boxes but we don't know what was and then that were transported from Mar-a-Lago to Bedminster on roughly a timeline that was consistent with DOJ letting Trump know that they were aware he continue to have possession of these items. So lots of potential uses for this information, all good for the prosecution."

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The audio is all special counsel needs on Trump: former DOJ official



Even if Donald Trump was fibbing about having a document outlining a potential attack on Iran, the audio of him claiming to have it provides enough evidence for investigators, according to a former Justice Department official.

Mary McCord previously worked as the acting assistant attorney general for national security at the U.S. Department of Justice, so when it comes to Donald Trump's document scandal, she's well-schooled on the specifics of the law. Speaking to MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace on Wednesday, McCord addressed the bombshell CNN report saying Trump was caught on tape admitting to having classified documents about a possible war in Iran.

Speaking to biographers working with Mark Meadows, Trump “recalls a four-page report typed up by (Trump’s then-chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff) Mark Milley himself. It contained the general’s own plan to attack Iran, deploying massive numbers of troops, something he urged President Trump to do more than once during his presidency," the report said.

The report describes Trump rustling around papers on his desk at his Bedminster Golf Club in New Jersey, acting as if he had them in his hand. Trump explained he couldn't show them to the biographers.

The reporting made some wonder if it was a legitimate claim from Trump or another example of Trump lying to make himself seem more remarkable. According to McCord, it doesn't matter because special counsel Jack Smith already has enough evidence that Trump stole documents, showed them to people, was careless with them, refused to return them, and obstructed justice.

What the new findings reveal is that he knew what the law was. She cited General Mark Milley, who Trump said crafted the document. He would have been asked by Smith whether such a document existed and if he had given it to Trump.

"If Milley says there is no such document, again, it just shows, again, the lies of a serial liar, but it doesn't change the important aspect of that recording that shows that Donald Trump knew he couldn't share classified information," said McCord.

An earlier report about Trump and Milley revealed that the former president wanted information that specifically mentioned Milley.

"Investigators have also asked witnesses if Trump showed a particular interest in material relating to Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff," said the April 2023 Post report, citing people familiar with those interviews. Milley was appointed by Trump but drew scorn and criticism from Trump and his supporters after a series of revelations in books about Milley’s efforts to rein in Trump toward the end of his term. In 2021, Trump repeatedly complained publicly about Milley, calling him an “idiot.”

"This is the reason why I suggested that Donald Trump could have made up the existence of this document because he was responding to these press reports because he was so annoyed with Gen. Milley and he wanted to essentially plant the seed with these journalists that Milley is lying," McCord said. "But it also could be if there really is such a document, as I understood it, he gave this interview at Bedminster in 2021. And there is some reporting also that on the audio recording, you can hear the rustling of papers. That could be the classified information, or it could be something else that he is rustling in his hands, trying to suggest that he actually has classified information. But if there is a classified document and it was at Bedminster, that raises a whole host of issues."

She recalled former Trump lawyer Tim Parlatore, who spoke to CNN after he resigned. He said that Trump aide Boris Epshteyn was acting against him, making it more difficult for the team to help Trump. Specifically, the lawyers said Epshteyn blocked his and Evan Corcoran's attempts to search Bedminster for all the White House documents.

"There is really recent reporting that one of the employees at Mar-a-Lago, who has apparently been cooperating with Jack Smith also told Jack Smith about loading some boxes into a truck to go up to Bedminster from Mar-a-Lago," McCord also recalled.

She closed by paraphrasing Sir Walter Scott: "What a tangled web we have here."

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6175 on: June 01, 2023, 10:06:47 AM »
Feds Have Trump on Tape Admitting He Kept Classified Pentagon Document of Possible Iran Attack



Federal prosecutors have an audio recording of Donald Trump admitting in 2021 that he had kept a classified Pentagon document about a possible attack against Iran.

CNN, which published the exclusive report, notes the recording undercuts Trump’s “argument that he declassified everything.”

“The recording indicates Trump understood he retained classified material after leaving the White House, according to multiple sources familiar with the investigation. On the recording, Trump’s comments suggest he would like to share the information but he’s aware of limitations on his ability post-presidency to declassify records, two of the sources said,” CNN adds.

"Prosecutors have asked witnesses about the recording and the document before a federal grand jury,” CNN also reports. “The episode has generated enough interest for investigators to have questioned Gen. Mark Milley, one of the highest-ranking Trump-era national security officials, about the incident.”

The recording was apparently made in July of 2021 at a Trump golf course. People without security clearances were part of the meeting during which it was discussed.

The damning revelation gives credence to political analysts who pointed to Trump’s recent remarks at the highly-controversial CNN town hall, when he was asked if he had shown classified documents to anyone.

Not really,” Trump said. “I would have the right to,” he claimed, falsely.

“By the way, they were declassified after,” he also claimed, falsely.

Watch CNN’s report at this link: https://twitter.com/i/status/1664001611000172550



‘Absolutely Blockbuster Evidence’: Experts Stunned Over Trump ‘Espionage Act’ Bombshell That Pressures ‘DOJ to Indict



Legal experts wasted no time Wednesday responding to an exclusive CNN report revealing federal prosecutors have obtained audio evidence of Donald Trump in a 2021 meeting at his Bedminster golf course admitting he had held onto a classified Pentagon document about a potential attack on Iran, admitting he wanted to share the document, and admitting he knew he legally could not because he did not have the authority to declassify it post-presidency.

“War plans are among the most highly classified documents. Puts pressure on DOJ to indict, and a jury to convict,” writes NYU Law professor of Law Ryan Goodman, a former U.S. Dept. of Defense Special Counsel.

“Make no mistake. This is squarely an Espionage Act case,” Goodman continues, calling the news a “bombshell.”

“It is not simply an ‘obstruction’ case,” says Goodman. “There is now every reason to expect former President Trump will be charged under 18 USC 793(e) of the Espionage Act. The law fits his reported conduct like a hand in glove.”

"Audio recording is a meeting with several people who don’t have security clearances. If Trump discussed content of document it is even worse – and raises its own criminal exposure,” Goodman also writes.

On-air, CNN reported in the audio recording a piece of paper could be heard ratting in the wind.

Calling it “a critical find,” MSNBC legal analyst Lisa Rubin says the alleged audio recording of Trump “reveals another new, significant fact: In summer 2021, Trump had at least one classified document with him at Bedminster. Trump lawyers told DOJ in December 2022 that a search of Bedminster by private investigators yielded no such records.”

Rubin sums it all up: “That DOJ & the Special Counsel have apparently spoken to witnesses from Milley to Fitton and back suggests they have evidence regarding Trump’s motives and state of mind in addition to his actual taped statements.”

Rubin is not the only one focused on the Bedminster aspect.

Pete Strzok, the former FBI Counterintelligence Deputy Assistant Director, pointed to a tweet he wrote last year that reads: “Better check Bedminster… On May 6, NARA [the National Archives] emails Trump to say material is missing and may be at MAL [Mar-a-Lago].”

“On May 9, Trump gets on a private plane from Palm Beach to Bedminster. On video, several boxes are seen loaded onto the plane,” Strzok also tweeted.

On Wednesday he wrote: “AND the meeting in question appears to have been at Bedminster. As I’ve said for a while, better check Bedminster.”

“Appears Trump – in his own voice,” Strzok adds, “- knew the procedures for declassifying information – knew he hadn’t done it – may have disclosed it to someone not authorized to receive it Huge. Filling in those 18 USC 793 elements of the crime.”

18 U.S. Code § 793 is the federal statute for “Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information.”

Other experts also weighed in.

“Holy s***,” exclaimed white collar criminal defense attorney Robert Denault, “Hugely significant piece of evidence.”

Attorney George Conway appeared to agree, citing the late, iconic Washington Post executive editor: “Fair to say Ben Bradlee would have called this a ‘holy-s*** story.'”

Conway, a former Republican and devout never-Trumper did not hold back: “It would actually be perfect for the most colossally nihilistic moron the world has ever seen to go to prison for doing something so brazenly illegal, yet at the same time so unimaginably pointless and stupid.”

Richard Painter, the former Bush 43 chief White House ethics lawyer points out that Trump “lied about it,” and called that a “felony.”

Former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti calls it “absolutely blockbuster evidence.”

“It proves that Trump *knew* he kept highly classified documents after he left office, that he shared the classified info with people who didn’t have clearance, and ‘suggests … he was aware of limitations’ on his ability to declassify.”

https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/2023/05/absolutely-blockbuster-evidence-experts-stunned-over-trump-espionage-act-bombshell-that-pressures-doj-to-indict/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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