Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[Rick Plant]

Joe Biden continues to run up the score against defeated sore loser Donald Trump who still refuses to concede so he can scam his gullible supporters out of more money for his campaign debts and the legal funds he is going to need after he's indicted.

2,000 Americans died from COVID-19 yesterday. Nearly 200,000 new cases. Many are in ruby red States and districts and Donald Trump is letting his cult members die. By refusing to concede and begin the peaceful transition of power, it's putting our national security at risk and allowing COVID-19 to spread beyond control. We have a self loathing defeated lunatic watching cable news all day instead of doing anything for COVID-19. I'm glad Donald Trump humiliated and miserable but it's a disgrace that he's allowing a virus to ravage America and destroying our democracy out of revenge.   

[Michael T. Griffith]

I'm 99% certain that liberal news outlets are not going to mention this, so I will: The COVID-19 case death rate in the U.S. continues to drop. Two weeks ago, it was at 2.6%. Now, as of this morning, it is down to 2.3% (243K deaths/10.6 million cases). That means the average survival rate is up to 97.7%.

At one point during the lockdowns, the case death rate was at 5.67%. Gee, why is it that when states began to reopen and allowed people resume normal lives, the death rate almost immediately began to decrease? Maybe because forcing people to be cooped up at home for weeks is not the best way to deal with the virus?

And, Sweden's COVID-19 success story continues: While the U.S. has averaged about 800 deaths per day since August, Sweden has averaged about 4 deaths per day since August. If we adjust Sweden's numbers to our population size, that would equal about 130 deaths per day in Sweden, 82% lower than our average deaths per day.

But if Biden does take office, you can bet that the Democrats will continue to ignore fact and logic and will seek to impose their panic posture on the rest of us.

[Colin Crow]

I'm 99% certain that liberal news outlets are not going to mention this, so I will: The COVID-19 case death rate in the U.S. continues to drop. Two weeks ago, it was at 2.6%. Now, as of this morning, it is down to 2.3% (243K deaths/10.6 million cases). That means the average survival rate is up to 97.7%.

At one point during the lockdowns, the case death rate was at 5.67%. Gee, why is it that when states began to reopen and allowed people resume normal lives, the death rate almost immediately began to decrease? Maybe because forcing people to be cooped up at home for weeks is not the best way to deal with the virus?

And, Sweden's COVID-19 success story continues: While the U.S. has averaged about 800 deaths per day since August, Sweden has averaged about 4 deaths per day since August. If we adjust Sweden's numbers to our population size, that would equal about 130 deaths per day in Sweden, 82% lower than our average deaths per day.

But if Biden does take office, you can bet that the Democrats will continue to ignore fact and logic and will seek to impose their panic posture on the rest of us.

Dunning-Kruger. Victoria had more than 700 new cases on August 5, now following lockdown.....zero cases for 14 straight days. That’s a fact Jack.

[Michael T. Griffith]

Dunning-Kruger. Victoria had lockdown.....zero cases for 14 straight days now. That’s a fact Jack.

You guys just can't de-program yourselves from judging this virus by case numbers instead of by the case death rate, can you? What do you think would happen if people understood that for most individuals COVID-19 is no more dangerous than the common flu? If you're between ages 0 and 49, your risk of dying if you catch COVID-19 is either nearly the same as, or far less than, your risk of dying if you catch the flu, depending on where you fall in that age range. But most people don't know this because most news outlets aren't giving them this vital information.

Taiwan has kept their schools and businesses open, yet they have the lowest number of cases and the fewest number of deaths per capita than any other nation on Earth.

Sweden has now clearly reached some level of herd immunity precisely because they did not impose a lockdown but kept their businesses and most schools open. I notice you declined to comment on the fact that Sweden's daily number of new deaths is now over 80% lower than ours when you adjust for population size. Gee, how can that be if lockdowns are the answer?

I notice you also declined to comment on the fact that the U.S. case death rate began to drop dramatically *after* states began to reopen, even though the number of cases began to rise dramatically.

If you could de-program yourself to stop focusing on case numbers and start focusing on death numbers, you would understand why the lockdown approach is senseless and destructive.

[Colin Crow]

You don’t read my posts or can’t you understand them. I told you some time back the actual mortality rate for Covid looked like it will turn out to be about 0.7%. I also posted about Sweden before. Most of the Covid outcomes will be a mixture of demographics, political leadership and social behaviour modification. Hopefully your country can eventually learn how to combat the threat. It seems you might at least get some effective leadership.

Did you have 2000 deaths today? How’s the hospitalisation rate going?

[Michael T. Griffith]

Joe Biden continues to run up the score against defeated sore loser Donald Trump who still refuses to concede so he can scam his gullible supporters out of more money for his campaign debts and the legal funds he is going to need after he's indicted.

2,000 Americans died from COVID-19 yesterday. Nearly 200,000 new cases. Many are in ruby red States and districts and Donald Trump is letting his cult members die. By refusing to concede and begin the peaceful transition of power, it's putting our national security at risk and allowing COVID-19 to spread beyond control. We have a self loathing defeated lunatic watching cable news all day instead of doing anything for COVID-19. I'm glad Donald Trump humiliated and miserable but it's a disgrace that he's allowing a virus to ravage America and destroying our democracy out of revenge.

Do you really, honestly believe this crazy, hateful drivel? After states began to reopen, the COVID-19 death rate began to *drop dramatically, and has now dropped by over 50%.** And you realize that six states never imposed any kind of lockdown, right? And guess what? Their COVID-19 numbers, per capita, are better than those of states that opted for harsh lockdowns. So if anyone has been killing Americans with bad COVID policy, it has been blue state governments that imposed senseless draconian lockdowns.

And Trump has not conceded because there is substantial evidence of widespread voter fraud in WI, MI, GA, NV, and PA. Some of this evidence was captured **on video,** so to blindly claim that there's "zero evidence of election fraud" is absurd and dishonest. I'm guessing you have not heard this, but a PA state judge just ruled two days ago that the extension of the voting deadline was illegal and that all votes received after the legal deadline will *not* count. And today the state of Georgia has begun its manual recount, although liberal news outlets are virtually ignoring this big story. If the recount puts the state clearly in Trump's column, that will be an important step in undoing Biden's theft of the election.

Democrats and their media pawns are trying very hard to make it seem like the election is over and that Biden won. Funny how they did the opposite in 2000.

Do you remember the 2000 election, when the Democratic candidate, Al Gore, refused to concede for over a month and demanded selective recounts in Florida? Gore did not concede until December 13, and only after the U.S. Supreme Court finally stepped in and stopped the fraudulent recount that the Florida supreme court had illegally allowed to continue. Contrary to liberal mythology, Gore did not want to "count all the votes": he only wanted recounts in certain Democratic-leaning counties, and then he tried to get a statewide recount that would only recount the undervotes. That was when the U.S. Supreme Court intervened.

[Martin Weidmann]

Do you really, honestly believe this crazy, hateful drivel? After states began to reopen, the COVID-19 death rate began to *drop dramatically, and has now dropped by over 50%.** And you realize that six states never imposed any kind of lockdown, right? And guess what? Their COVID-19 numbers, per capita, are better than those of states that opted for harsh lockdowns. So if anyone has been killing Americans with bad COVID policy, it has been blue state governments that imposed senseless draconian lockdowns.

And Trump has not conceded because there is substantial evidence of widespread voter fraud in WI, MI, GA, NV, and PA. Some of this evidence was captured **on video,** so to blindly claim that there's "zero evidence of election fraud" is absurd and dishonest. I'm guessing you have not heard this, but a PA state judge just ruled two days ago that the extension of the voting deadline was illegal and that all votes received after the legal deadline will *not* count. And today the state of Georgia has begun its manual recount, although liberal news outlets are virtually ignoring this big story. If the recount puts the state clearly in Trump's column, that will be an important step in undoing Biden's theft of the election.

Democrats and their media pawns are trying very hard to make it seem like the election is over and that Biden won. Funny how they did the opposite in 2000.

Do you remember the 2000 election, when the Democratic candidate, Al Gore, refused to concede for over a month and demanded selective recounts in Florida? Gore did not concede until December 13, and only after the U.S. Supreme Court finally stepped in and stopped the fraudulent recount that the Florida supreme court had illegally allowed to continue. Contrary to liberal mythology, Gore did not want to "count all the votes": he only wanted recounts in certain Democratic-leaning counties, and then he tried to get a statewide recount that would only recount the undervotes. That was when the U.S. Supreme Court intervened.

And Trump has not conceded because there is substantial evidence of widespread voter fraud in WI, MI, GA, NV, and PA. Some of this evidence was captured **on video,** so to blindly claim that there's "zero evidence of election fraud" is absurd and dishonest.

What's it like to live in an alternate "reality" where you can make up your own "facts"?

Not only has Trump lost every court case that has already been decided (that should tell you something, but it probably won't), but so far the lawyers have not been able to produce any evidence of fraud in any of those cases.

I'm guessing you have not heard this, but a PA state judge just ruled two days ago that the extension of the voting deadline was illegal and that all votes received after the legal deadline will *not* count.

That's a legal matter and has nothing to do with fraud. The opinion of one judge is of little value in the bigger scheme of things. The legal problem is not with the validity of the ballots. It's about when they were received. Given that the people possibly may have been misinformed about a deadline can not automatically lead to the invalidation of their votes, so don't get your hopes up that those votes will be thrown out.

And today the state of Georgia has begun its manual recount, although liberal news outlets are virtually ignoring this big story. If the recount puts the state clearly in Trump's column, that will be an important step in undoing Biden's theft of the election.

It's only a "big" story to Trump supporters because they hope and pray that the automatically triggered manual recount will end in a positive result for Trump. This also has nothing to do with fraud and/or Biden "stealing" the election.

In the meantime Biden has been declared the winner in Georgia, bringing his total in the electoral college to 306.

Democrats and their media pawns are trying very hard to make it seem like the election is over and that Biden won. Funny how they did the opposite in 2000.

Did your biased and very selective memory forget what the Republicans were saying 4 years ago?

Btw, as far as covid is concerned, let's compare the Scandinavian countries as per today;

Norway:     26503 infections and 291 deaths
Finland:     18542 infections and 365 deaths
Denmark:  58963 infections and 755 deaths

Sweden: 171365 infections and 6122 deaths

Yeah, Sweden is doing really well.... pffffffffff

[Colin Crow]

Do you really, honestly believe this crazy, hateful drivel? After states began to reopen, the COVID-19 death rate began to *drop dramatically, and has now dropped by over 50%.** And you realize that six states never imposed any kind of lockdown, right? And guess what? Their COVID-19 numbers, per capita, are better than those of states that opted for harsh lockdowns. So if anyone has been killing Americans with bad COVID policy, it has been blue state governments that imposed senseless draconian lockdowns.

And Trump has not conceded because there is substantial evidence of widespread voter fraud in WI, MI, GA, NV, and PA. Some of this evidence was captured **on video,** so to blindly claim that there's "zero evidence of election fraud" is absurd and dishonest. I'm guessing you have not heard this, but a PA state judge just ruled two days ago that the extension of the voting deadline was illegal and that all votes received after the legal deadline will *not* count. And today the state of Georgia has begun its manual recount, although liberal news outlets are virtually ignoring this big story. If the recount puts the state clearly in Trump's column, that will be an important step in undoing Biden's theft of the election.

Democrats and their media pawns are trying very hard to make it seem like the election is over and that Biden won. Funny how they did the opposite in 2000.

Do you remember the 2000 election, when the Democratic candidate, Al Gore, refused to concede for over a month and demanded selective recounts in Florida? Gore did not concede until December 13, and only after the U.S. Supreme Court finally stepped in and stopped the fraudulent recount that the Florida supreme court had illegally allowed to continue. Contrary to liberal mythology, Gore did not want to "count all the votes": he only wanted recounts in certain Democratic-leaning counties, and then he tried to get a statewide recount that would only recount the undervotes. That was when the U.S. Supreme Court intervened.

Forget the rates......look at absolutes.....ffs. Look at hospitalisation rates if you want but stop quoting the simple notion of drop in death rate. Early on the number of cases were underestimated severely because of testing inadequacy.

As for the election, who would have thought those Democrats would be so stupid to get Biden the votes and lose seats in the lower house and not grab the Senate. What it shows is the Trump was voted against more than the party. Do you have a theory for spit ticket voting?