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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2480 on: November 16, 2020, 11:11:40 PM »
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2481 on: November 16, 2020, 11:19:06 PM »
These are the current COVID-19 stats, as of this morning, for California, which has a population (39.5 million) that is larger than that of most countries, including Canada, Australia, Venezuela, Chile, Guatemala, and Romania. These stats are further proof that the Democrats' one-size-fits-all lockdown approach is senseless.

Even if you want to believe that the case death rate has dropped so dramatically only because of therapeutics, that does not change the fact that it has dropped dramatically, that it poses a much lower risk of death than it did during the lockdowns. Therapeutics have certainly played a role in the last month or so, but therapeutics alone cannot explain the fact that the decrease began barely 2 weeks after states began to reopen.

Anyway, here are California's COVID-19 numbers as of this morning and broken down by age group:

All Ages
Cases: 1.02 million
Deaths: 18,253
Death rate: 1.79%
Survival rate: 98.21%

Ages 0-17
Cases: 111,180
Deaths: 0
Death rate: 0.0%
Survival rate: 100%

Ages 18-49
Cases: 608,940
Deaths: 1,314
Death rate: 0.216% (the flu's death rate is between 0.15% and 0.25%)
Survival rate: 99.784%

Ages 50-64
Cases: 191,760
Deaths: 3,486
Death rate: 1.82%
Survival rate: 98.18%

Ages 65-100
Cases: 107,100
Deaths: 13,434
Death rate: 12.6%
Survival rate: 87.4%
What do these stats have to do with lockdowns, which did occur, rather strictly here in California? And are about to be imposed again?

Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2482 on: November 16, 2020, 11:20:14 PM »
More great news today.  Another Trump vaccine that will be 95% effective.  And a record high Dow.   What a legacy Trump will be leaving while he takes a respite until 2024.   He has cured the virus, and returned the stock market to record high levels.   While sparing us four to eight years of Hillary.  If anyone deserves the Nobel Prize, it is certainly Trump.   Meanwhile leftist radicals are assaulting people on the streets, shutting down business while they party like it's 1999, vowing to raise taxes, crush the economy, and censoring the news in ways that Orwell never envisioned.  Script writers could not have set the stage any better for Trump 2024.

Donald Trump had nothing to do with the vaccine. He called COVID-19 a "hoax" and allowed it to ravage America with mass infection and death. Now he wants credit for a vaccine. The orange fraud can't have it both ways. Donald Trump is on his way to prison after he leaves office.

Here is what this lunatic gave us.

11,504,155 COVID-19 cases
252,441 deaths
51 million lost jobs

Donald Trump claimed in March we wouldn't see 60,000 deaths.

The amount of people Donald Trump killed (252,441) adds up to 4 1/2 Super Bowl crowds.   

 

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2483 on: November 16, 2020, 11:29:37 PM »
These are the current COVID-19 stats, as of this morning, for California, which has a population (39.5 million) that is larger than that of most countries, including Canada, Australia, Venezuela, Chile, Guatemala, and Romania. These stats are further proof that the Democrats' one-size-fits-all lockdown approach is senseless.

Even if you want to believe that the case death rate has dropped so dramatically only because of therapeutics, that does not change the fact that it has dropped dramatically, that it poses a much lower risk of death than it did during the lockdowns. Therapeutics have certainly played a role in the last month or so, but therapeutics alone cannot explain the fact that the decrease began barely 2 weeks after states began to reopen.

Anyway, here are California's COVID-19 numbers as of this morning and broken down by age group:

All Ages
Cases: 1.02 million
Deaths: 18,253
Death rate: 1.79%
Survival rate: 98.21%

Ages 0-17
Cases: 111,180
Deaths: 0
Death rate: 0.0%
Survival rate: 100%

Ages 18-49
Cases: 608,940
Deaths: 1,314
Death rate: 0.216% (the flu's death rate is between 0.15% and 0.25%)
Survival rate: 99.784%

Ages 50-64
Cases: 191,760
Deaths: 3,486
Death rate: 1.82%
Survival rate: 98.18%

Ages 65-100
Cases: 107,100
Deaths: 13,434
Death rate: 12.6%
Survival rate: 87.4%

More BS:

The death rate is not "dropping", it's drastically increasing.

Top medical experts have changed their statistics and predict 360,000 total deaths by Biden's inauguration Day.

That's over 100,000 more deaths in just 63 days.   

If the death rate was "dropping" as you fraudulently claim, then the numbers would barely even move.

It took 4 months from March-July to reach 100,000 deaths.

Experts are saying we will have 100,000 deaths in 2 months from now.

Deaths are increasing, not "dropping".

Your bogus disinformation was just totally refuted.     

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2484 on: November 16, 2020, 11:44:30 PM »
More BS:

The death rate is not "dropping", it's drastically increasing.

Top medical experts have changed their statistics and predict 360,000 total deaths by Biden's inauguration Day.

That's over 100,000 more deaths in just 63 days.   

If the death rate was "dropping" as you fraudulently claim, then the numbers would barely even move.

It took 4 months from March-July to reach 100,000 deaths.

Experts are saying we will have 100,000 deaths in 2 months from now.

Deaths are increasing, not "dropping".

Your bogus disinformation was just totally refuted.   

Griffith doesn't want to know. He doesn't care. All he cares about it what he wants; opening of the economy and the illusion of returning to a "normal life" with the pandemic raging all around him. All his "arguments" are just to somehow justify his untenable position.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2020, 12:05:14 AM by Martin Weidmann »

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2485 on: November 17, 2020, 12:04:18 AM »
More great news today.  Another Trump vaccine that will be 95% effective.  And a record high Dow.   What a legacy Trump will be leaving while he takes a respite until 2024.   He has cured the virus, and returned the stock market to record high levels.   While sparing us four to eight years of Hillary.  If anyone deserves the Nobel Prize, it is certainly Trump.   Meanwhile leftist radicals are assaulting people on the streets, shutting down business while they party like it's 1999, vowing to raise taxes, crush the economy, and censoring the news in ways that Orwell never envisioned.  Script writers could not have set the stage any better for Trump 2024.

Moderna was part of Warp Speed. This was driven by Trump, a scheme where he spent large amounts of other people’s money. That’s something he's good at but doesn’t always achieve a positive outcome. Pfizer vaccine was not developed under Warp Speed but doses were purchased using other peoples money. A bit different but same principle. Donald took credit for development of both, again another of his character flaws, loose with the truth.

I believe the Dow spiked after Biden was declared victor. Reality is that once the vaccine rolls out and the virus fades the collective memory will be that Covid decimated America during Trumps reign and Biden was President when it was cured.

Meanwhile Richard, the people have spoken. America is officially socialist from what the Trump was claiming during rallies. How many Trumpsters are going to migrate to southern countries soon? What happens to the Republicans when Fox News (which we can all agree on, SUCKS, now) gets abandoned by the Trump base for OANN etc? Looks like a split to me. Rupert can be truly vengeful. True Trump supporters look to be about 30% max to me. Not enough to win anything.

As I said previously I hope Trump runs again in 2024, he has the chance to create a record that could never be repeated. Lose the popular vote three times and be impeached along the way. Truly impressive.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2486 on: November 17, 2020, 12:40:49 AM »
If anyone deserves the Nobel Prize, it is certainly Trump.   .

It's the brave, selfless, front-line workers world-wide who deserve the Nobel Prize. And the people who wear masks and follow the guidelines deserve honourable mention.

Here's the sane 'rise-up':

'Rise Up'   Brigitte Wickens
« Last Edit: November 17, 2020, 12:55:17 AM by Bill Chapman »

Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2487 on: November 17, 2020, 02:17:01 AM »
Moderna was part of Warp Speed. This was driven by Trump, a scheme where he spent large amounts of other people’s money. That’s something he's good at but doesn’t always achieve a positive outcome. Pfizer vaccine was not developed under Warp Speed but doses were purchased using other peoples money. A bit different but same principle. Donald took credit for development of both, again another of his character flaws, loose with the truth.

I believe the Dow spiked after Biden was declared victor. Reality is that once the vaccine rolls out and the virus fades the collective memory will be that Covid decimated America during Trumps reign and Biden was President when it was cured.

Meanwhile Richard, the people have spoken. America is officially socialist from what the Trump was claiming during rallies. How many Trumpsters are going to migrate to southern countries soon? What happens to the Republicans when Fox News (which we can all agree on, SUCKS, now) gets abandoned by the Trump base for OANN etc? Looks like a split to me. Rupert can be truly vengeful. True Trump supporters look to be about 30% max to me. Not enough to win anything.

As I said previously I hope Trump runs again in 2024, he has the chance to create a record that could never be repeated. Lose the popular vote three times and be impeached along the way. Truly impressive.
Mr Crow: which vaccine is Gov funded and which independent,  and which seems much more stable vs crazy refrigeration needs?
Thx.

P.S. Regarding our new, socialist USA: On Jan 20th, all radio stations switch to the playing, on a loop, of the "Internationale" ...until the "gusanos" have been expelled!

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2487 on: November 17, 2020, 02:17:01 AM »