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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2688 on: December 04, 2020, 03:35:08 PM »
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Maybe he learned something.....like you could about Darwinism.....yet you just avoid answering again and again. Why is that? It's sticking out like the proverbial.

What could he possibly have learned that was new?  He was addressing the effectiveness of masks during the current pandemic.  He indicated they were a security blanket but did little good.  If he was wrong at that time, that is amazing incompetence for a person whose life experience was dealing with such situations.  So let us summarize:

1) Wearing a mask is better than not wearing a mask but has limited effectiveness.

2) The Dems vastly overstated the effectiveness of masks when it became clear that Trump was reluctant to wear one and was skeptical of the claims being made about them.  This allowed the Dems to falsely but effectively blame Trump for the deaths for political purposes.

3) Because the effectiveness of masks has been grossly overstated, many people have been led to conclude that they can safely return to their normal life and business just by wearing one.  This is contributing to the spread of the virus and may be the primary reason for the spike in new case.

4) President Trump was one of the few who didn't buy into the ersatz science of the mask wearing as a major factor in addressing the virus.  Instead he directed the resources of the US government to assist in the development and distribution of a new vaccine.  A real solution. This has been accomplished.  The history books will reflect that Trump was right and the dems like Cuomo completely bungled the response with their nonsense about lockdowns and masks that both destroyed the economy while having neglible impact on the virus.  Either out of sheer incompetence or political purposes or most likely both.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2689 on: December 04, 2020, 03:50:08 PM »
BS:

NYC has a lower death rate than Texas which is a COVID disaster.


 

That is completely and demonstrably false.  It's not even close.  The NY death rate per 100K people is 179  (ranks 2nd among all states).  By comparison in Texas it is only 73 (ranks 25th).  Thus, the death rate is approximately DOUBLE in NY!  NY is second only to its neighbor NJ in highest per capita number of deaths.   You should be ashamed to post such false information.  People are fleeing NY like it is on fire.  Where are they are going?  To places like Texas, Florida, and Georgia.  The same for California.  People and businesses are leaving for AZ and other republican controlled states.

 https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2690 on: December 04, 2020, 04:47:20 PM »
What could he possibly have learned that was new?  He was addressing the effectiveness of masks during the current pandemic.  He indicated they were a security blanket but did little good.  If he was wrong at that time, that is amazing incompetence for a person whose life experience was dealing with such situations.  So let us summarize:

1) Wearing a mask is better than not wearing a mask but has limited effectiveness.

2) The Dems vastly overstated the effectiveness of masks when it became clear that Trump was reluctant to wear one and was skeptical of the claims being made about them.  This allowed the Dems to falsely but effectively blame Trump for the deaths for political purposes.

3) Because the effectiveness of masks has been grossly overstated, many people have been led to conclude that they can safely return to their normal life and business just by wearing one.  This is contributing to the spread of the virus and may be the primary reason for the spike in new case.

4) President Trump was one of the few who didn't buy into the ersatz science of the mask wearing as a major factor in addressing the virus.  Instead he directed the resources of the US government to assist in the development and distribution of a new vaccine.  A real solution. This has been accomplished.  The history books will reflect that Trump was right and the dems like Cuomo completely bungled the response with their nonsense about lockdowns and masks that both destroyed the economy while having neglible impact on the virus.  Either out of sheer incompetence or political purposes or most likely both.


That is completely and demonstrably false.  It's not even close.  The NY death rate per 100K people is 179  (ranks 2nd among all states).  By comparison in Texas it is only 73 (ranks 25th).  Thus, the death rate is approximately DOUBLE in NY!  NY is second only to its neighbor NJ in highest per capita number of deaths.   You should be ashamed to post such false information.  People are fleeing NY like it is on fire.  Where are they are going?  To places like Texas, Florida, and Georgia.  The same for California.  People and businesses are leaving for AZ and other republican controlled states.

 https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

Yesterday alone we had a record high 216.000 infections and nearly 3.000 deaths and the numbers are rising, as predicted they would due to people ignoring good advice at Thanksgiving. Ever since the country opened up again, numbers have been going up, the infection is spreading faster than ever and thus reaching more vulnerable people more easily.

What is it going to take for you right wing nuts to accept reality and see what's happening as a result of your blatant ignorance?
« Last Edit: December 04, 2020, 05:27:14 PM by Martin Weidmann »

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2691 on: December 04, 2020, 10:24:23 PM »

I just figured it out. Trump, Giuliani and his other lawyers are deep Democratic operatives, whose long-term mission is to:

1.   Get Republican voters to turn against Republican senators and congressmen.
2.   Get Republican voters to turn against Republican state legislatures.
3.   Get Republican voters to turn against Republican governors so they can be removed from office with the next election, or better yet, sooner, by removing them from office, or, if necessary, by other means.
4.   And if all else fails, get Republican voters not to bother voting as a method of protest and because the elections are rigged anyway.

It all fits with his parallel operations to reduce the number of Republicans by encouraging mass rallies without masks and teaching them to shout out chants.

And the latest having his lawyers stating that certain prominent Republicans should shot at dawn. Later, the lawyer explained that he was only joking. It didn’t have to be at dawn.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2020, 10:33:52 PM by Joe Elliott »

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2692 on: December 04, 2020, 11:12:22 PM »
For all you liberals with your hands over your eyes when it comes to the mounting evidence of large-scale voter fraud, here's a video of some clearly untoward ballot-counting in Georgia where we see election workers counting briefcases full of ballots after most of the other workers had departed:

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/trump-legal-team-says-ga-video-footage-depicts-poll-workers-suitcases

This is in addition to the many videos (1) of GOP election observers being refused entrance to voting facilities, (2) of GOP election observers being forced to sit far away from vote-counting stations, and (3) of Democratic election workers covering windows so that observers could not even observe vote-counting through the windows. "No evidence whatsoever of voter fraud"???!!!

And here's another article on the revealing and troubling findings of data analysis of the voting results now that data experts have been carefully examining the data:

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/no-one-had-done-data-expert-details-major-effort-investigate-2020-voter

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2693 on: December 05, 2020, 12:09:52 AM »
What could he possibly have learned that was new?  He was addressing the effectiveness of masks during the current pandemic.  He indicated they were a security blanket but did little good.  If he was wrong at that time, that is amazing incompetence for a person whose life experience was dealing with such situations.  So let us summarize:

1) Wearing a mask is better than not wearing a mask but has limited effectiveness.

2) The Dems vastly overstated the effectiveness of masks when it became clear that Trump was reluctant to wear one and was skeptical of the claims being made about them.  This allowed the Dems to falsely but effectively blame Trump for the deaths for political purposes.

3) Because the effectiveness of masks has been grossly overstated, many people have been led to conclude that they can safely return to their normal life and business just by wearing one.  This is contributing to the spread of the virus and may be the primary reason for the spike in new case.

4) President Trump was one of the few who didn't buy into the ersatz science of the mask wearing as a major factor in addressing the virus.  Instead he directed the resources of the US government to assist in the development and distribution of a new vaccine.  A real solution. This has been accomplished.  The history books will reflect that Trump was right and the dems like Cuomo completely bungled the response with their nonsense about lockdowns and masks that both destroyed the economy while having neglible impact on the virus.  Either out of sheer incompetence or political purposes or most likely both.

Posted this a few days ago.....

Hey Richard, before the pandemic did you usually cover your mouth when you cough or cover your nose when you sneezed in public? If so, why?

Your avoidance of questions you find uncomfortable is obvious to all.

PS Darwinism....how does that work?

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2694 on: December 05, 2020, 02:50:36 AM »

Multiple GOP legislators in Pennsylvania say their signatures were wrongly added to a letter demanding that President-elect Joe Biden's win in the state be challenged in Congress.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/6-pennsylvania-gop-reps-deny-signing-letter-asking-congress-to-dispute-election-results/ar-BB1bDZDf?ocid=msedgntp

Boy, and I was led to believe that the Team Trump were fanatical about checking signatures.

While this has been labeled as a “Clerical error”, it appears this clerical error was just enough to turn a minority of Pennsylvania legislators “signing” this letter into a majority.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2695 on: December 05, 2020, 04:05:09 AM »
That is completely and demonstrably false.  It's not even close.  The NY death rate per 100K people is 179  (ranks 2nd among all states).  By comparison in Texas it is only 73 (ranks 25th).  Thus, the death rate is approximately DOUBLE in NY!  NY is second only to its neighbor NJ in highest per capita number of deaths.   You should be ashamed to post such false information.  People are fleeing NY like it is on fire.  Where are they are going?  To places like Texas, Florida, and Georgia.  The same for California.  People and businesses are leaving for AZ and other republican controlled states.

 https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

 BS:

New York had a disastrous March and April because Lame Duck Donald did nothing to prepare New York and the rest of the United States for this deadly pandemic. It was up to Cuomo to fight COVID on his own with a massive outbreak and massive population. After he put his stay at home orders and mask mandates in place, cases and deaths dramatically went down. Those are the facts and all your bogus propaganda does not work.

Arizona is now a blue state with two Democratic U.S. Senators and a state Biden won. Trump stooge Gov. Ducey is going to lose in a landslide in the next election.

Fleeing to Texas and Florida where COVID is worse than New York?  :D   

COVID deaths today (so far)

Texas:        241
Florida:      123
New York:   57

New York doesn't even register 80 deaths per day. For two weeks straight, Texas registered triple digit deaths with over 200 per day. Here are two charts with monthly COVID Death Rates. New York had a disastrous March and April because Lame Duck Donald did nothing but cases dramatically dropped. Look at the Texas death rate surging with Trump stooge GOV Greg Abbott doing nothing. Charts will always defeat your bogus propaganda and disinformation.     

Texas Monthly COVID Death Chart (slide right)




New York Monthly COVID Death Chart


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2695 on: December 05, 2020, 04:05:09 AM »