Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[John Iacoletti]

When people are talking about a conspiracy, they mean:
1.   Multiple people have to be involved.
2.   Secret, they have to act, or attempt to act, in secret.

“Richard” has claimed that the laws were changed (it’s debatable whether an executive order to extend ballot return deadlines is actually a change in law) with a secret agenda to change election results using the virus as a cover story. He also claims that had this not happened, Trump would have won in a landslide. No evidence for that claim whatsoever.

[Joe Elliott]

“Richard” has claimed that the laws were changed (it’s debatable whether an executive order to extend ballot return deadlines is actually a change in law) with a secret agenda to change election results using the virus as a cover story. He also claims that had this not happened, Trump would have won in a landslide. No evidence for that claim whatsoever.

Provide a quote from Richard Smith so that I can check to see if he ever did make such claims.

[Joe Elliott]

I would hope that all Republican members of Congress would listen to this brief four-minute interview of a former Republican U. S. senator from Maine.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ex-gop-senator-slams-republicans-may-be-time-for-new-party/vi-BB1co2Vb?ocid=msedgntp

[Joe Elliott]

My hope for Tuesday is that the two Republican candidates for Senate are defeated by a large number. I don’t know how soon they can get the results from Georgia, but if by Wednesday morning, it is known that they lost, that having Trump’s support didn’t help them, even in a Red state, that backing Trump’s actions in the last 8 weeks may have cost them, will cause a lot of Republican senators and congressmen to have second thoughts. Not that it really matters. But that is one of my new year’s hope.

[Joe Elliott]

Who is most likely to believe:

•   Hundreds of programmers, going against basic American values, made programs to rigged the election. And kept this secret.
•   Thousands of poll workers, going against basic American values, snuck in boxes full of fraudulent ballots, counting the same ballot over and over again, to rig the election. And kept this secret.

Who is most likely to believe this?

The same group who believes:

•   Hundreds of CIA agents and FBI agents and police officers and autopsy doctors, helped assassinate a President, or helped coverup the assassination of a President. And doing so went against basic American values. And kept this secret.

It is the CTers. Clearly the ones who believe in a Large-Secret-Enduring Conspiracy to assassinate an American President are going to be the ones most predisposed to believe in a Large-Secret-Enduring Conspiracy to rig an American Election. If you deny this then you are in denial. That is why we see, on this forum, the ones who believe in this Large-Secret-Enduring Conspiracy to rig the 2020 Presidential Election also happen to be CTers. What else would we expect to see?

[Joe Elliott]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rudy-giuliani-spends-new-year-s-eve-on-parler-attacking-republican-quislings/ar-BB1coZk5?ocid=msedgdhp

Well, he is the latest information from Trump’s attorney, Rudy Giuliani:

Rudy Giuliani Spends New Year's Eve on Parler Attacking 'Republican Quislings'

"There are 5 State Legislatures that know their vote tallies submitted to US Congress are a fraud,”
"Most of the Republican legislators want to correct the lies and expose the massive Biden vote theft. Only a few Republican 'leaders' are worried about the rejection by the Deep State media, politicians and businesses."
. . .
"Expose these vacillators and let them make a choice; join Deep State conspiracy or save our nation from a fraudulent election."

So, there you have it from a top Trump spokesman. The belief in the “Stolen Election” is tied to the belief in the existence of a conspiracy of the “Deep State”. Belief in the “Deep State” is quite common among JFK CTers and 2020 Election CTers. It’s just they use different actors. For one group it is the media, politicians and businesses that control things behind the scene. For the other group it’s the CIA, the military, businesses and politicians that do this.

So, again, why exactly is that we should not expect people who adopt a JFK Conspiracy belief by the Deep State to be more likely to adopt a 2020 Stolen Election Conspiracy belief by the Deep State?

[Joe Elliott]

Idiots on parade following their banner:

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/30/951267532/multiple-coronavirus-cases-after-republican-christmas-party-in-new-york

Big joke, except people who didn’t even attend the party will likely die as a result. The virus just keeps spreading and spreading.

I like the quote from one partier: "Do I regret going to the party? Maybe," he said. "Is it the party's fault? No. Life happens." It’s not so much the bad decisions that people make. It’s more like an act of God.

[Jack Trojan]

Who is most likely to believe:

•   Hundreds of programmers, going against basic American values, made programs to rigged the election. And kept this secret.
•   Thousands of poll workers, going against basic American values, snuck in boxes full of fraudulent ballots, counting the same ballot over and over again, to rig the election. And kept this secret.

Who is most likely to believe this?

The same group who believes:

•   Hundreds of CIA agents and FBI agents and police officers and autopsy doctors, helped assassinate a President, or helped coverup the assassination of a President. And doing so went against basic American values. And kept this secret.

It is the CTers. Clearly the ones who believe in a Large-Secret-Enduring Conspiracy to assassinate an American President are going to be the ones most predisposed to believe in a Large-Secret-Enduring Conspiracy to rig an American Election. If you deny this then you are in denial. That is why we see, on this forum, the ones who believe in this Large-Secret-Enduring Conspiracy to rig the 2020 Presidential Election also happen to be CTers. What else would we expect to see?

Horsesh*t. The Republicans are the ones that belong to the conspiracy/propaganda party. Qanon is 100% GOP. Just ask Richard. Fake Fox KGB News is too. And it's only you that claims that hundreds of CIA & FBI agents were part of the Big Event. You certainly like to inform the CTs what they believe.

In reality, you only needed a couple dozen conspirators to pull off the Big Event if their marching orders came from the top. The others are just gullible LNers who dismiss the JFK assassination as a BS Large-Scale-Secret-Enduring Conspiracy. You LNers stick your head in the sand and ignore or scoff at all evidence suggesting otherwise, just like the WC planned it. Fortunately for the WC, there is a gullible sucker born every minute. They were counting on you guys to discredit the CTs as tinfoil-hat conspiracy nutjobs so you can dismiss everything they say without fact-checking anything, like Drumpf or Alex Jones, who are both staunch Republicans/Conspiracists.

You should spend more time using critical thinking and logic to refute the evidence presented rather than psycho-analyzing the dumbass CTs with your BS and telling them what they think. After all, LNers are the fringe minority here, not the CTs.