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Trump Is A Sinking Ship Taking The GOP With Him

Republicans tied their political fate to Donald Trump. Trump swept them into power in 2016 and it's likely he will leave the party in shambles in 2020.

by: Edward Hardy on July 23, 2020

Before beginning this assessment of Donald Trump’s campaign and the impact that it’s having on the Republican Party, it’s important to state that the only poll that matters is the one on Election Day. However, it cannot be ignored that the signs aren’t good for the President.

In 2016, at this stage of the campaign, polls showed that Hillary Clinton had a narrow lead, sometimes within the margin of error. Four years later, polls regularly show Joe Biden with a more substantial lead of 10% or more. This is supported by the state-by-state polls that give a greater insight into what’s happening on the ground in key battleground states, including places that Republicans once considered safe. The reality is that Donald Trump’s campaign is a sinking ship and he is taking the rest of the Republican Party with him.

During the 2016 election, one of the elements that propelled Trump to head the Republican Party’s primary field, easily overtaking seasoned politicians who’d been longstanding members of the GOP, was his ability to suck all the oxygen out of the campaign. By dominating the political sphere and media coverage, he ensured in 2016 that, whenever the election was discussed, he was the primary topic of conversation. Embracing the old proverb that ‘there’s no such thing as bad publicity’, he was happy with any attention, positive or negative, as long he was the only candidate in the minds of voters.

Arguably, he actually preferred the negative publicity because it would allow him to get into a dogfight, sometimes in live debate and sometimes on Twitter, capturing the attention of the media, distracting them, and playing into his plan for domination of the conversation. Once he had seized control of the Republican Party, he began to deploy those same tactics to seize control of the presidency. Again, he smothered the political dialogue, preventing Clinton from gaining traction because everything was framed around Trump rather than her political agenda. This all worked to plan and to the Republican Party’s favor, delivering them control of the House, the Senate, and the White House.

In 2020, Trump is still dominating American politics. Doing so ensures that Democrats and Republicans are confronted with having to address, defend or challenge his actions and comments and the impact that they have. Over the last few years, Trump’s presidency has resulted in many voters, including some who supported him in 2016, becoming very disillusioned with him.

Republicans who align themselves with Trump and his agenda often face severe criticism from voters, outside of Trump’s base. Despite this, the Republican Party has become so cowed by the cult of personality Trump has created that they will attempt to justify everything he does, from his failed handling of the coronavirus outbreak to stoking division in the midst of international protests over racial inequality. The reality is that, because Trump is at the forefront of voters’ minds, every Republican candidate running for office is directly tied to his agenda and to his presidential record.

Previous challengers have often found that presidential campaigns can be an uphill battle because the incumbent has access to a platform that isn’t available to them. This time around, Democrats cannot contain their glee when Trump holds a press conference or a rally. It seems that every time he speaks, he commits self-sabotage thus making his approval numbers worse. The White House’s coronavirus press briefings aptly demonstrate this, with a recent ABC News/Washington Post survey finding that 60% do not approve of how Trump is managing the outbreak. That’s why Democrats are, potentially, pleased to see that these briefings have returned because it will increase the brightness of the spotlight shining on the Trump administration’s failures and inability to protect America during a crisis.

The polls indicate that, if the election happened today, the damage inflicted by Trump would not just keep the House in Democratic hands and deliver the White House keys to Joe Biden, but would also flip the Senate blue. States that were once considered safe red seats (Arizona, Colorado, Iowa, Maine, Montana, and North Carolina) not only have Democratic challengers clipping at the heels of their opponents but, in recent polls in all six of those areas, Democrats are leading the Republican incumbents.

In past campaigns, the Republican Party would benefit from fundraising enabling them to deploy millions of dollars in ad buys in those states, but even that doesn’t appear to be an effective strategy this time around. In June, the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) posted a record-breaking haul of $14 million, although the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC) wasn’t far behind with $13.6 million. In fact, the DSCC actually has more cash on hand, leading the NRSC by $7.7 million.

Republican politicians now face a difficult choice. If they express criticisms of, or disagreements with, the President, voters might consider this to be a self-serving and insincere attempt to gain some political advantage, given that those same politicians have become so intertwined with Trump’s agenda. Alternatively, Republican officeholders could pit themselves against Trump and risk facing the inevitable repercussions arising from having triggered Trump’s ire, possibly ending their political career and, also, potentially weakening the GOP’s performance in the election. Of course, they could decide to continue to align themselves with Trump and take their chances with voters.

Senator Susan Collins (R-ME) understands the first option. She is under pressure from voters in her own state of Maine to stand firm on issues that would put her in conflict with the President. However, while she will make mild critiques or express her concerns about Trump, thus far she has been unwilling to fully break with the party. For example, her actions during the confirmation hearings for Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh drew criticism from both sides and saw her retreat back behind the cloak of the GOP.

Jeff Sessions is Trump’s former attorney general and recently tried to follow the second option during his campaign to regain his Alabama Senate seat. After being repeatedly berated by Trump for his handling of the Mueller investigation, Sessions finally snapped and tried to hit back at the President on Twitter by defending his decision to recuse himself from the investigation, justifying his actions as attorney general. That did nothing to win over voters and only emboldened Trump’s attacks, resulting in Sessions losing his re-election campaign in a seat he once won with 97% of the vote, his successful opponent being a former football coach with no political experience. Those examples and more show just why Republicans are so powerless as their party is ripped apart.

Some astute Republicans know that there is only one thing left to do. They have to destroy Donald Trump’s political career, regardless of the collateral damage for the GOP as a whole, or he’ll destroy them, potentially wreaking further havoc on America and putting Republicans out of office for the foreseeable future. That’s why the Lincoln Project sprung up and has gained so much traction on social media. The individuals behind it are long-term Republican supporters, strategists, and operatives. They do not support the Democratic Party, its agenda or its presidential nominee. However, they are clear that they will do whatever it takes to remove Donald Trump and his ideology from the Republican Party for good, as well as removing those who have acted as Trump’s enablers. That might mean they have to temporarily hurt the party they have supported for so long, in order to regain control of the GOP. However, they believe that if they don’t now take the drastic steps needed, there might not be much of a future for the GOP.

Members of the Republican Party have to accept what is currently happening, even if they don’t like it. They can stand by Donald Trump and watch him throw away the presidency and the Senate with his chaotic and divisive campaign, or they can accept that this President is a lost cause, ditch him and cut their losses. Republican politicians can risk their jobs and take a stand, or watch voters take that stand for them and send them packing in November. If Republicans want to protect democratic processes in the US and avoid the destruction of the GOP, they must take drastic action now to distance themselves from Donald Trump before it’s too late. Republican politicians must seize this moment and choose party over Trump.





   
Edward Hardy is a US and UK political commentator and the host of The Hardy Report podcast. The show is a weekly political news and current affairs podcast, bringing listeners interviews with a range of activists, campaigners and politicians from across the political spectrum in the United States and the United Kingdom.

 

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Offline Paul May

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« Reply #681 on: July 23, 2020, 07:56:37 PM »
Does Royell Storing wear a coronavirus mask? Vote yes or no. I vote .... no.

U.S. records 2,600 new coronavirus cases every hour as total surpasses 4 million
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(Reuters) - U.S. coronavirus cases topped 4 million on Thursday, with over 2,600 new cases every hour on average, the highest rate in the world, according to a Reuters tally.

Infections in the United States have rapidly accelerated since the first case was detected on Jan. 21. It took the country 98 days to reach 1 million cases. It took another 43 days to reach 2 million and then 27 days to reach 3 million. It has only taken 16 days to reach 4 million at a rate of 43 new cases a minute.

The federal government, state governors and city leaders have often clashed over the best way to tackle the pandemic, leading to a confusing patchwork of rules on issues like mask wearing in public and when businesses can open.

President Donald Trump recently shifted his tone. He had been previously been reluctant to wear a mask himself but this week encouraged Americans to wear masks and recently appeared in public for the first time with a face covering.

Of the 20 countries with the biggest outbreak, the United States ranks second for cases per capita, at 120 infections per 10,000 people, only exceeded by Chile.

With over 143,000 deaths, or 4.4 fatalities per 10,000 people, the United States ranks sixth globally for the highest deaths per capita. It is exceeded by the United Kingdom, Spain, Italy, Chile and France.

Globally, the rate of new infections shows no sign of slowing, with the disease accelerating the fastest in the United States and South America, according to the Reuters tally, based on official reports.

Brazil registered a new daily record for confirmed coronavirus cases on Wednesday, pushing the total confirmed cases across Latin America past 4 million.

Brazil has the second-largest outbreak in the world, with more than 2.2 million people testing positive and nearly 83,000 deaths.

India, the only other country with more than 1 million cases, reported almost 40,000 new cases on Wednesday.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #682 on: July 23, 2020, 08:07:24 PM »
  I don't blow my own horn. Those that Rejected the Haters by almost a 3-1 margin KNOW the score. I spoke with Jimbo late last night. Internals extremely good and continuing UP. This includes the all important Swing States. You do Not Know, what You do Not Know. You Know whatever the Fake News Media and 538 TELLS You. It's that simple.

Consider that "Il Duce, II" less than four months before facing re-election, commuted the sentence of his co-conspirator Stone, who was openly blackmailing him, ordered Michael Flynn's prosecutors to corruptly become his defense attorneys, and delighted in the B.O.P. "shaking down" Trump's former co-conspirator/fixer, Cohen, with a gag order-in-exchange-for-staying-out-of-federal-prison! Duce II also extended well wishes to a fugitive finally located and under federal indictment for procuring minor females for "Whitey Bulgerized", Jeffrey Epstein.

A member of Trump's transition team, George Nader closely interacting with and facilitating corrupt Trump associates, including Donald, Jr, Tom Barrack, Elliot Broidy, and Eric Prince, in undisclosed interactions with foreign leaders, during and after the Trump transition, was sentenced to ten years in prison on charges related to sex abuse of a minor, all during the same four weeks span Trump was conspiring to end the prosecution of Mike Flynn, B.O.P.'s muscling of Cohen for his silence about Trump corruption, abusing his office to pay Stone's blackmail demands by ordering an end to Stone's 40 months prison sentence, $20,000 fine, and two years supervised release, all before wishing Ghislaine Maxwell, WELL, and attacking NFL players who might take a knee in the future, and democratic party affiliated mayors across the country and their cities with unidentified, militarized, federal mercenaries.

None of the above description of Trump's corruption is intended to minimize his opening a new round of daily lying, supported by Pence, and misleading about his deliberate failure to minimize the risks of pandemic deaths and serious illness, the admissions within the State Dept. that Trump abused his office by directing his billionaire Ambassador to UK to pursue a financial windfall for Trump by officially requesting UK authorities, in 2018, "arrange" for the British Open to be moved to Trump's golf property in Scotland, and proof foreign governments have been bribing Trump by paying his hotels and that Trump has been directing tens of millions of campaign and U.S. government funds into Trump owned businesses!

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Trump uses more 'realistic' tone in coronavirus briefing, but repeats false claims: FACT CHECK
He changed his take on masks and bars, but still gave a rosy outlook.
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ANYONE who supports Trump is sponsoring a wannabe totalitarian and an Attorney General more openly corrupt than John Mitchell.
How does a reasonable person argue against the idea B.O.P. has been transformed into Trump's personal vindictive "instrument", capable of "Whitey Bulgerizing" Jeffrey Epstein, after this judge's quick and evidence supported decision?

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Judge orders release of former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen by Friday, saying book publication restriction was ‘retaliatory’
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A federal judge on Thursday ordered the release from prison of President Donald Trump’s former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen by Friday afternoon.
The judge found that Cohen was sent back to prison in retaliation for not agreeing to not to publish a book about Trump while on furlough from prison.
Cohen plans to publish that book, which will be critical of Trump, before the 2020 presidential election.


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Tom Ridge, The First Homeland Security Secretary, Says He’d Likely Resign Before Letting Federal Agents Into American Cities

CBS PittsburghPITTSBURGH (KDKA) — Over 100 federal officers with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security have been sent to Portland, Oregon, in recent days.

That has brought protest from many, including a number of mayors like Pittsburgh Mayor Bill Peduto, who said on Wednesday that he’d fight in court any such effort to send federal agents here.

Now the nation’s first secretary of homeland security, former Pa. Gov. Tom Ridge, says he’d likely resign rather than use DHS forces in this way.

Violence in Portland, often directed against their federal buildings, has sparked controversy on the use of federal Homeland Security forces over the strong objections of the city’s mayor and the state’s governor.

“These police officers are not stormtroopers. They are not the Gestapo, as some have described them,” says Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf.

But federal police presence without the consent of local and state officials brought strong condemnation from Ridge.

“It would be a cold day in hell before I would consent or agree to the unsolicited, uninvited intervention in any of my cities,” Ridge told KDKA political editor Jon Delano. “I certainly don’t favor that kind of action, and certainly don’t think DHS was designed for that purpose to start with.”

Ridge urged President Donald Trump to work with state and local officials, not against them.

“We have strength in numbers. And unified, we could probably accomplish more than him acting independently,” Ridge said.

But Acting DHS Secretary Wolf says local police aren’t doing the job.

“What we know is that if we left tomorrow, they would burn that building down,” says Wolf.

Still, says Ridge, the DHS was created to combat terrorism after 9/11, not to be a federal police force.

“From my point of view, it wasn’t designed to become the president’s personal militia and so it is somewhat troubling,” he said.

Ridge told KDKA that if he had been secretary and a president ordered him to send DHS forces into an American city, he might have resigned.

“This is a tough one to accept as an individual, let alone as governor and former secretary of DHS,” Ridge said.

Ridge cited the example of Elliott Richardson, “one of the people I admired greatly in the history of American politics.”

Richardson resigned as attorney general rather than carry out what he believed was an “unconstitutional” order from President Richard Nixon to fire the special prosecutor in the Watergate affair.

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« Reply #684 on: July 23, 2020, 08:29:24 PM »
It's good to have a political leader with life experience but seriously, isn't a man who will be an Octogenarian before he leaves Office kinda ridiculous?


https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/joe-biden-falsely-says-donald-trump-is-the-first-racist-us-president/news-story/9f89269905be821ee27901e873ecd789

And don't forget that history has a habit of repeating itself.



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« Reply #685 on: July 23, 2020, 08:31:19 PM »
Put a pathologically lying draft dodger into the WH and our military speaks out....

Retired US Army Gen. Russel Honoré, the three-star general who commanded the military's response to Hurricane Katrina in 2005, sharply criticized the Department of Homeland Security for wearing military uniforms.

"That uniform represents the cloth of our nation for people who don't draw overtime, who serve around the world at the direction of the national command authority," Honoré said to MSNBC.

The optics of federal agents, who wore US Army uniforms in crackdowns on protesters, have concerned top Pentagon officials and lawmakers. Some armed activists have also worn pieces of the Army's uniform or carried with them military-style gear to protests, making it even more difficult to differentiate civilians from law enforcement.

"Federal agents who are wearing camouflage in our streets and carrying out the orders of our corrupt president against Americans obviously have no understanding of our military's most basic values — to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States," Democratic Rep. Seth Moulton, a former US Marine Corps infantry officer, told Insider.

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« Reply #686 on: July 23, 2020, 08:33:41 PM »
It's good to have a political leader with life experience but seriously, isn't a man who will be an Octogenarian before he leaves Office kinda ridiculous?


https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/joe-biden-falsely-says-donald-trump-is-the-first-racist-us-president/news-story/9f89269905be821ee27901e873ecd789

And don't forget that history has a habit of repeating itself.



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The voters will ultimately decide what’s ridiculous, will they not?

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« Reply #687 on: July 23, 2020, 08:36:47 PM »
  What I wear, Where I go, Who I work for, Who I am,............ is Non Of Your Business! Get a Life.
  As I have said before, the "Shelter in place" knee jerk reaction actually Accelerated the Corona outbreak. UV/Sunlight/Vit D/Zinc is the key. I believe what Fauci and others are calling a "2nd Wave" is a Different Corona STRAIN. Just Like The Flu. This is why we have Yet to hear Fauci or any of his minions Guarantee that anyone catching and recovering from Corona would NOT come down with it again. Just Like The Flu. If they told everyone there might be multitude Strains of Corona, this might lead some to Panic and others looking at Corona as being another General Flu Bug and taking a cavalier attitude toward taking the necessary precautions to avoid contracting it. So we get this "2nd Wave" Malarkey.
  We frequently see Numbers for Corona Positive Tests. What we NEVER SEE is a number for those Testing Positive that are "ASYMPTOMATIC". Why is this? I believe there is an Issue with FALSE Positive Testing. The mass Corona testing done by MLB revealed a Very High %  being ASYMPTOMATIC. It also had the same players testing Positive 1 day, Negative 2 days later, Positive 2 days later, and Negative 2 days after that. There is a Corona TESTING ISSUE regarding False Positives. This is where the ASYMPTOMATIC Patients come in. No Dr anywhere at any time has been able to explain why there is ASYMPTOMATIC Corona patients. It's a False Positive Test. ASYMPTOMATIC Individuals feel 100% in-the-pink. They are really physically fine.
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