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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2096 on: October 19, 2020, 05:21:24 AM »
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Let's try again - Old Joe had no events.  None.  Zero.  Just a couple weeks before the election.  It is incredible. He doesn't have to have a mass rally.  At least he could stand in his driveway and answer a few questions. Like whether Russians have fabricated a computer that indicates he is receiving millions from China.  Just clear that one up.  It is astounding.  Everyone should be concerned that a presidential candidate is hiding.

Biden is crushing Donald Trump everywhere so he's on the defense running around. We are in the middle of a pandemic. Events are not supposed to be held.   

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« Reply #2097 on: October 19, 2020, 06:08:55 AM »
Biden is crushing Donald Trump everywhere so he's on the defense running around. We are in the middle of a pandemic. Events are not supposed to be held.

Events?  LOL.  How about standing in his driveway while someone in a helicopter shouts a question at him?  Are you on the payroll of commie China as your son's computer confirms?  Crackhead Hunter is the Anthony Weiner of this campaign.  Dirty Joe has made millions in bribes from foreign governments.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2098 on: October 19, 2020, 10:28:19 AM »
Events?  LOL.  How about standing in his driveway while someone in a helicopter shouts a question at him?  Are you on the payroll of commie China as your son's computer confirms?  Crackhead Hunter is the Anthony Weiner of this campaign.  Dirty Joe has made millions in bribes from foreign governments.

Are we to believe the discredited Russian Rudi and Bloated Bannon? He who live by "fake news" is destined to die by it. Remind me where the arrest of Bannon occurred. What were the contact details the computer repair shop owner used in his frantic attempts to contact whoever dropped the laptops off? $85 for three laptops....really? Colour me unconvinced.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2099 on: October 19, 2020, 01:33:11 PM »
Are we to believe the discredited Russian Rudi and Bloated Bannon? He who live by "fake news" is destined to die by it. Remind me where the arrest of Bannon occurred. What were the contact details the computer repair shop owner used in his frantic attempts to contact whoever dropped the laptops off? $85 for three laptops....really? Colour me unconvinced.

On YouTube I have seen two interviews with Bannon and two so-called "common sense" videos by Rudi Giuliani. That was about all I could stomach. They just talk and talk and talk, but show not a shred of actual evidence. I suppose that's why Giuliani uses the "common sense" moniker, as that, just like in the JFK case, is too frequently used by people who have no evidence.

In the latest video, Giuliani, kept on ranting about major international crimes allegedly committed by the Bidens, which off course begs the question why he hasn't past on the "evidence" to law enforcement. Unless something changed and I have missed it, you report alleged crimes to the proper authorities and not a newspaper, right?

What litte "Lying Richard" fails to understand is that the people are sick and tired of hearing the same old crap about Biden. For more than two years the right has been making these claims and no proof of any kind was ever provided. Trump got impeached for trying to manipulate the President of the Ukraine into the fabrication of a scandal that didn't exist. He got caught at it and although his friends in Congres bailed him out, everybody still knows he was guilty. It is out of pure desperation that Bannon and Giuliani are still beating this long dead horse.
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« Reply #2100 on: October 19, 2020, 03:00:38 PM »
Are we to believe the discredited Russian Rudi and Bloated Bannon? He who live by "fake news" is destined to die by it. Remind me where the arrest of Bannon occurred. What were the contact details the computer repair shop owner used in his frantic attempts to contact whoever dropped the laptops off? $85 for three laptops....really? Colour me unconvinced.

It is a complete and baseless fantasy to suggest this computer is part of any Russian disinformation plan.  That is laughable.  Imagine that plan.  Concocted all this fake information (all of which can be easily discredited if faked), drop it off at some random shop, hope the proprietor takes a look at the contents,  hope that he is not a Biden supporter,  leave it to chance that he contacts the authorities, all this knowing that it can easily be debunked by the FBI's technical experts and on and on.  It is ludicrous but it doesn't surprise me that JFK CTers are pumping that rubbish.  If the Russians were involved, they would just provide the email to Wikileaks to post.  None of this complexity and leaving it to chance.  Crackhead Hunter dropped it off.  He is not too bright.  The Bidens have yet to claim it is fake.  End of story.  The "Big Guy" has been caught red handed.  This is a career bureaucrat who spent nearly 50 years on a government salary but he and every member of his family are multimillionaires.  It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes or James Bond to sort out.

Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe on Monday said that Hunter Biden’s laptop “is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign.”
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2101 on: October 19, 2020, 03:57:07 PM »
It is a complete and baseless fantasy to suggest this computer is part of any Russian disinformation plan.  That is laughable.  Imagine that plan.  Concocted all this fake information (all of which can be easily discredited if faked), drop it off at some random shop, hope the proprietor takes a look at the contents,  hope that he is not a Biden supporter,  leave it to chance that he contacts the authorities, all this knowing that it can easily be debunked by the FBI's technical experts and on and on.  It is ludicrous but it doesn't surprise me that JFK CTers are pumping that rubbish.  If the Russians were involved, they would just provide the email to Wikileaks to post.  None of this complexity and leaving it to chance.  Crackhead Hunter dropped it off.  He is not too bright.  The Bidens have yet to claim it is fake.  End of story.  The "Big Guy" has been caught red handed.  This is a career bureaucrat who spent nearly 50 years on a government salary but he and every member of his family are multimillionaires.  It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes or James Bond to sort out.

Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe on Monday said that Hunter Biden’s laptop “is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign.”

It is a complete and baseless fantasy to suggest this computer is part of any Russian disinformation plan.

Then why was Trump briefed a year ago that Giuliani was the subject of a Russian disinformation scheme?

And, true or not, suggesting that it is part of a Russian scheme is working, because except for some right wing outlets nobody is interested in a re-run of the Hillary e-mail "scandal" that went nowhere fast and/or the Ukraine scandal of two years ago that blew up in Trump's face. Giuliani has overplayed his hand and now sees his own strategy of making allegations without proof working against him. Rudy's problem is that he has no more credibility left. For a year now he has been claiming he had all sorts of evidence against the Biden's, yet he never submitted any of it to law enforcement. That alone tells a sane person all he/she needs to know about the veracity of Giuliani's claims.

Imagine that plan.  Concocted all this fake information (all of which can be easily discredited if faked), drop it off at some random shop, hope the proprietor takes a look at the contents,  hope that he is not a Biden supporter,  leave it to chance that he contacts the authorities, 

Another typical "Richard Smith" strawman based on massive speculation. If Trump supporters are willing to kidnap and kill Governors, don't you think it's easy to find a pro-Trump repairman that will play the game for some compensation?

And btw the information doesn't have to be discredited. It needs to be authenticated, which is easy to do by producing the meta data.....So, where is it?

all this knowing that it can easily be debunked by the FBI's technical experts and on and on.

As the FBI has had the original hard drives for nearly a year now, and did not act upon the information, it's reasonable and safe to assume that they have already figured out the whole thing is bogus.

If the Russians were involved, they would just provide the email to Wikileaks to post.

Is that what your Russian contacts tell you, or did you just make it up yourself?

Crackhead Hunter dropped it off.  He is not too bright.  The Bidens have yet to claim it is fake.  End of story.  The "Big Guy" has been caught red handed.  This is a career bureaucrat who spent nearly 50 years on a government salary but he and every member of his family are multimillionaires.  It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes or James Bond to sort out.

No, indeed... it requires, out of all people, Steve Bannon and Rudy Giuliani to "discover" this information 20 days prior to an election and it requires right wing nuts like "Richard Smith" to believe it at face value without any kind of evidence and/or verification.
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2102 on: October 19, 2020, 04:10:41 PM »
It is a complete and baseless fantasy to suggest this computer is part of any Russian disinformation plan.  That is laughable.  Imagine that plan.  Concocted all this fake information (all of which can be easily discredited if faked), drop it off at some random shop, hope the proprietor takes a look at the contents,  hope that he is not a Biden supporter,  leave it to chance that he contacts the authorities, all this knowing that it can easily be debunked by the FBI's technical experts and on and on.  It is ludicrous but it doesn't surprise me that JFK CTers are pumping that rubbish.  If the Russians were involved, they would just provide the email to Wikileaks to post.  None of this complexity and leaving it to chance.  Crackhead Hunter dropped it off.  He is not too bright.  The Bidens have yet to claim it is fake.  End of story.  The "Big Guy" has been caught red handed.  This is a career bureaucrat who spent nearly 50 years on a government salary but he and every member of his family are multimillionaires.  It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes or James Bond to sort out.

Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe on Monday said that Hunter Biden’s laptop “is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign.”

Radcliffe, isn’t he one of Trump's stooges that hasn’t been fired yet? What was Hillary's email "crime" last time? At least Trump had Comey leading the way in 2016.

When is Barr going to press charges? Can hardly wait.....by the way....it’s not hard to accumulate multi millions over that period on a public salary. What was his salary? Haven’t you been able to?

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« Reply #2103 on: October 19, 2020, 04:11:17 PM »
It is a complete and baseless fantasy to suggest this computer is part of any Russian disinformation plan.

Then why was Trump briefed a year ago that Giuliani was the subject of a Russian disinformation scheme?

And suggesting that it is part of a Russian scheme is working, because except for some right wing outlets nobody is interested in a re-run of the Ukraine scandal of two years ago. Giuliani has overplayed his hand. He has no credibility left. For a year now he has been claiming he had all sorts of evidence against the Biden's, yet he never submitted any of it to law enforcement. That alone tells a sane person all he/she needs to know.

Imagine that plan.  Concocted all this fake information (all of which can be easily discredited if faked), drop it off at some random shop, hope the proprietor takes a look at the contents,  hope that he is not a Biden supporter,  leave it to chance that he contacts the authorities, 

Another typical "Richard Smith" strawman based on massive speculation. If Trump supporters are willing to kidnap and kill Governors, don't you think it's easy to find a pro-Trump repairman that will play the game for some compensation?

all this knowing that it can easily be debunked by the FBI's technical experts and on and on.

As the FBI has had the original hard drives for nearly a year now, and did not act upon the information, it's reasonable and safe to assume that they have already figured out the whole thing is bogus.

If the Russians were involved, they would just provide the email to Wikileaks to post.

Is that what your Russian contacts tell you, or did you just make it up yourself?

Crackhead Hunter dropped it off.  He is not too bright.  The Bidens have yet to claim it is fake.  End of story.  The "Big Guy" has been caught red handed.  This is a career bureaucrat who spent nearly 50 years on a government salary but he and every member of his family are multimillionaires.  It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes or James Bond to sort out.

No, indeed... it requires, out of all people, Steve Bannon and Rudy Giuliani to "discover" this information 20 days prior to an election and it requires right wing nuts like "Richard Smith" to believe it at face value without any kind of evidence and/or verification.

How about this?  Old Joe or Hunter just clear it up.  They obviously knows whether the information on the computer is fake.  Or the FBI just confirm?  If it is faked, the Hiden campaign deserves to have that cleared up.  If it is authentic, the American public deserves to know that Dirty Joe and his crackhead son are on the payroll of China and many other foreign countries before electing him President.  That seems fair enough.  The truth is out there.  This is not a matter that can't be resolved.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2103 on: October 19, 2020, 04:11:17 PM »