Victoria Adams’ view from the fourth floor window

[Dan O'meara]

Dan,

Thanks, but the limo was about 50 yards up the street from our (correctly-identified) big-tall Gloria Calvery and her three headscarf-wearing colleagues when the first (missing) shot of three shots, total, was fired from the Sixth Floor "Sniper's Nest".

Did she say she heard three shots?

If so, she must have thought that the limo, travelling towards her at about 10 miles per hour (?) was, IN RETROSPECT, "almost in front of her" when the first shot rang out.

--  MWT 

Fair enough, just thought it might be something.

[Royell Storing]

  Originally, they were working with the Theory that the 1st shot missed and struck Elm St. This could have come at an earlier point in time/JFK Limo closer to the corner of Houston. James Teague and the curb screwed that Theory up as this would have then been at least 4 shots being fired = multiple shooters = Conspiracy.

[Thomas Graves]

Euins said on the day of the assassination:

    "I watched the car [go] on down the street and about the time the car got near the black and white sign I heard a shot."

This as likely means the Thornton Freeway sign, not the sign cluster that Holland tried to make people think Euins was referring to.

"JFK: The Lost Bullet" (Limo positioned approx. at Z133)

Nope.

As he clarified the issue to Max Holland in The Lost Bullet, Euins was referring to the smallish signs (plural) clustered together on the pole on the "island".

Holland even asked a follow-up question to make sure there would be no misunderstanding by LNers or, especially, CTers, alike.

You seem to forget that witness Patricia Ann Lawrence (nee Donaldson, or is it the other way around?) corroborated to Holland what Euins had told him regarding the position of the limo when the first shot rang out.

Nice try, though.

--  MWT 

[Royell Storing]

Nope.

As he clarified the issue to Max Holland in The Lost Bullet, Euins was referring to the smallish signs (plural) clustered together on the pole on the "island".

Holland even asked a follow-up question to make sure there would be no misunderstanding by LNers or, especially, CTers, alike.

You seem to forget that witness Patricia Ann Lawrence (nee Donaldson, or is it the other way around?) corroborated to Holland what Euins had told him regarding the position of the limo when the first shot rang out.

Nice try, though.

--  MWT 

   Also, in that Euins piece, Euins describes the Pacing of the 3 shots. There is No Way the Bolt Action Carcano could have fired the 3 shot timing that Euins Specifically Describes and demonstrates as he pounds his hand down on the pedestal he alleges he ducked behind.

[Royell Storing]

  The above attempts to fit what was seen with what was Generally BELIEVED to be true at that point in time. Describing what he saw by making sure it jibed with JFK 's back being in line with the SN Window is Hooey. If you are in a jury box and hear a witness give this type of "testimony", the testimony of that witness should carry No Weight. It's obviously tailor made/constructed.

[Thomas Graves]

   Also, in that Euins piece, Euins describes the Pacing of the 3 shots. There is No Way the Bolt Action Carcano could have fired the 3 shot timing that Euins Specifically Describes and demonstrates as he pounds his hand down on the pedestal he alleges he ducked behind.

The reports, echoes and reverberations of the three supersonic "cracks" and their attendant nearly-simultaneous muzzle blasts in the concrete gorge known as Dealey Plaza fooled lots of witnesses, especially when they were trying to sort them out, later, from the tangled and foggy mass of adrenaline-impregmented memories floating around in their brains ever since about 12:31 pm, Central Time, 11/22/63.

--  MWT 

[Royell Storing]

  If Euins story is True, he was Extremely close to the Sniper's Nest with Nothing between him and that window for sound to carom/echo off of. Those of You that want to buy into the Euins Story MUST take his ENTIRE Story. NO Cherry Picking to suit your fancy!

[Thomas Graves]

  If Euins story is True, he was Extremely close to the Sniper's Nest with Nothing between him and that window for sound to carom/echo off of. Those of You that want to buy into the Euins Story MUST take his ENTIRE Story. NO Cherry Picking to suit your fancy!

Were there any lingering (either real or psychological) gunshot echoes, echoes, echoes ... before Euins heard the first shot ring out about 1.4 seconds before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133?

If not, then there was nothing to interfere with his noticing and correctly remembering the timing of it, was there?

--  MWT