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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Three Problems with the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #56 on: March 29, 2021, 02:34:38 PM »
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Whitman had been out of the Marines 20 months.  Oswald had been out of the Marines for over 4 years.

Thanks for pointing that out, Neil... explains why the little nobody missed Walker and the first shot at the somebody in the limo. You know, just getting the kinks out..
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Re: Three Problems with the Lone-Gunman Theory
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Re: Three Problems with the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #57 on: March 29, 2021, 03:18:29 PM »
This is embarrassing. You show the very same photo ALL conspiracy types show. I know you have other photos. Let’s see the bottom.

'Pristine'.. yeah, sure
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Re: Three Problems with the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #58 on: March 29, 2021, 03:37:10 PM »

'virtually pristine'
'non-deformed'

Okay, sure
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Let's see you get your head squished to that extent and see how 'non-deformed' and 'pristine' you feel, Michael.

OUCH!


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Re: Three Problems with the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #59 on: March 29, 2021, 09:35:49 PM »
The baseless assertation that Oswald cannot be the assassin because it required some uncanny marksmanship abilities that he did not possess is among the weakest but most persistent CTer claims.  First, Oswald was trained to shoot in the US Marines.  He was not some rube who had no experience with rifles.  Second, the longest distance at which he hit JFK that day was entirely within the capabilities of an individual trained by the US Marines.  Charles Whitman, with similar training, hit human targets at much longer distances.  Third, the timeframe for firing the shots is uncertain because we do not know the exact sequence in which the shots were fired.  Oswald may have had as much or more than ten seconds or more seconds to fire all his shots depending on the sequence and timing.  Nothing about Oswald's marksmanship or his rifle precludes him as the assassin.

In addition, the clock starts at the first shot so whatever these brainiacs claim as total time elapsed, the nobody needs only coax/massage the bolt action back & forth a couple of times during any given time frame.
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Re: Three Problems with the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #60 on: March 30, 2021, 07:07:09 PM »
'Pristine'.. yeah, sure


Mr.Chapman,

I have the feeling you are being deceptive about the 'pristine bullet.' Granted, your Commission's exhibit 399 has a flattened base. This bullet, according to the Warren Report, smashed 4 inches of rib bone in the Governor's chest, and proceeded to fracture the wrist of the Governor before lodging in his left thigh.

A similar bullet was fired through the wrist of a human cadaver, this is CE 856. Note the mushrooming of the nose of the bullet:



What is your explanation for the fact that CE 399's nose is almost fully intact, save the sample that the FBi took for their examinations?


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Re: Three Problems with the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #61 on: March 30, 2021, 09:34:21 PM »
The problem is Governor Connally stated he heard the first shot, turned to look over his right shoulder but failing to see the President was in the process of turning back when he was hit in the back by a second bullet. Mrs. Connally said her husband was hit by the second bullet, and the President already had his hands at his throat when that happened.

Both the FBI and the SS committed to the 3 shots - 3 hits scenario.

Watch the Z-film.
It's inescapable that both men react at the same instant.

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Re: Three Problems with the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #62 on: March 30, 2021, 10:27:28 PM »
Watch the Z-film.
It's inescapable that both men react at the same instant.

I'm sorry, I mistakenly believed you had a genuine interest in the case, but au contraire you have embraced the US Government's version of events. I hope one day you will wake up and realize not everything the government tells you is true.

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Re: Three Problems with the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #63 on: March 30, 2021, 11:51:46 PM »
Mr.Chapman,

I have the feeling you are being deceptive about the 'pristine bullet.' Granted, your Commission's exhibit 399 has a flattened base. This bullet, according to the Warren Report, smashed 4 inches of rib bone in the Governor's chest, and proceeded to fracture the wrist of the Governor before lodging in his left thigh.

A similar bullet was fired through the wrist of a human cadaver, this is CE 856. Note the mushrooming of the nose of the bullet:



What is your explanation for the fact that CE 399's nose is almost fully intact, save the sample that the FBi took for their examinations?

First of all, the main 'non-pristine' part of 399 is the squishing along the side which—in turn—causes the butt end to lose its normal, circular shape.

Additionally, a cadaver a few feet away (adjusted powder-load notwithstanding) just ain't the same as firing from the exact same Oswaldian angle & distance.
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