The First Shot

[Allan Fritzke]

Certainly true one can infer a lot of different scenarios.  Unfortunately Jacqueline who must have saw it all was forced into silence.

I like to observe her reactions because she is the one facing the Zapruder camera at all times.

When JFK gets shot, she is looking right at him and continues to look at him while bringing her hands up to stabilize his left hand.
It appears both his hands go towards face (choking?) and then the right hand drops down to chest.   Trouble breathing or is this the point (shot) where the pain is coming from?   Is he giving a thumbs up  and then the thumb drops down at Z266?  Any thoughts on that one?

Jacqueline moves her attention to Connally at Z253 and her gaze remains centrally fixated there for the next 3 seconds.  Meanwhile everyone else in the car, the driver, the front SS agent, Connally and  his wife ALL simultaneously turn around and end up looking at the President (Z283 shows that).   At Z291, Jacqueline changes from looking at Connally back to looking at her husband.  She might have noticed them all looking at him.  She seems to be examining his chest if you look at where she is looking.   Not his head or neck.  The position where JFK initially placed his right hand after the first shot is my guess.   Was there a wound there?  What was Jacqueline looking at in that area?  Again, complete silence and the most critical observation was willfully neglected to be recorded.

Connally didn't seem to concerned about the hit he took.  He did not use his good? arm to go to his point of pain and no indication of shortness of breath.  He must have had quite the adrenaline rush as he didn't collapse.   If you recall he had one rib totally pulverized according to reports with the same bullet striking his wrist and leg I believe.  He turned right around and looked directly at JFK to see what was going on with him.   By Z330 he had his head below seat level and then brought it back up to just behind the corner post of the driver.   Nellie can be seen putting her head and body behind him and near JFK's legs at the very same instant.

Meanwhile the SS agent in passenger seat had his head down below at Z330 and the driver had his head closer to the windshield.  If he was putting on the brakes, his head would come forward and so would everyone else.  However no one else in the car reacted like he did.   We also know he must have been driving very slow at that time because the SS agent ran up from the followup car and hopped on.  5 mph would be likely.   Yes there can be a lot interpretation!         

[Dan O'meara]

In this previous post I've argued that the impact of the first shot should be expected in either z222 or z223. I believe it is possible to pinpoint the exact moment of impact to z223 based on an observation from fellow forum member Brian Roselle. In the pic below the detail in question is the small white blob seen above the edge of the door. This small white blob is the cuff of JBC's shirt at his right wrist.


The clip below begins at z222, the shirt cuff is seen just above the top edge of the limo door. By the very next frame (55milliseconds later) it has disappeared downwards, a very rapid movement. Up to this point JBC has been looking to his right, completely calm and composed. He's like this before he goes behind the Stemmons sign and is exactly the same when he first emerges from behind it. Suddenly he bursts into a flurry of activity. As the clip rolls a few things happen simultaneously - his hand is suddenly forced downwards then 'rebounds' upwards to face level. His right shoulder is pulled forward and downwards , rotating his body slightly, sending his left shoulder up and back. As all this happens the right side of his jacket bulges outward quite dramatically.



I believe this shows JBC's wrist being impacted by a bullet at z223. It drives his hand forcibly downwards which then rebounds upwards. The force of the impact drags his right shoulder forward and down causing his body to rotate slightly. The debris exiting his chest wound causes his jacket to bulge.
In the slightly extended clip below I would like to point out the position of JBC's wrist after all this initial activity has died down. To me it appears his wrist is at a really unnatural angle suggesting that his wrist can no longer support his hand due to the damage inflicted. It is also possible that the impact has damaged nerves causing some fingers to curl. It is possible JBC couldn't let go of his Stetson if he wanted to.

One of the upshots of the above analysis is that it highlights something that most "multi-Assassin" researchers seem really uncomfortable with - that both JFK and JBC were shot through at the same time, presumably by the same bullet. That both men sustained injury from a single bullet (the first shot of three assumed shots from the TSBD) seems to be some kind of Kryptonite but it is, as far as I'm concerned, clearly shown in the Zapruder footage. This does not mean, however, that I am in the "Oswald did it" camp. It's time to embrace the "Single Bullet" theory.

[John Tonkovich]

One of the upshots of the above analysis is that it highlights something that most "multi-Assassin" researchers seem really uncomfortable with - that both JFK and JBC were shot through at the same time, presumably by the same bullet. That both men sustained injury from a single bullet (the first shot of three assumed shots from the TSBD) seems to be some kind of Kryptonite but it is, as far as I'm concerned, clearly shown in the Zapruder footage. This does not mean, however, that I am in the "Oswald did it" camp. It's time to embrace the "Single Bullet" theory.

Mr O'meara:  Since JFK is not visible from z 208 to Z221, it's impossible to know exactly when he started reacting to being shot.

[Dan O'meara]

Mr O'meara:  Since JFK is not visible from z 208 to Z221, it's impossible to know exactly when he started reacting to being shot.

Obviously I completely disagree with your opinion on this and provide what evidence I can to determine when the first shot took place. The arguments I have presented in this thread have left me with the opinion that the first shot passes through both JFK and JBC at z223.
If there is a specific point about any of the arguments presented that you believe erroneous I would be happy to discuss it with you.

[John Tonkovich]

Obviously I completely disagree with your opinion on this and provide what evidence I can to determine when the first shot took place. The arguments I have presented in this thread have left me with the opinion that the first shot passes through both JFK and JBC at z223.
If there is a specific point about any of the arguments have presented that you believe is erroneous I would be happy to discuss it with you.

Mr O: JFK not being visible from Z208 to Z221 is a fact, not an opinion.
You can only guess what is going on behind the sign.
Why, exactly, would the SS and the FBI provide Mr West with a Z207 hit location, which he surveyed in on his plat at their direction?
You know better than them? 47 years later?
Ok.

[Dan O'meara]

Mr O: JFK not being visible from Z208 to Z221 is a fact, not an opinion.

That is quite correct John, however, it was quite disingenuous of you to leave out this part of your sentence:

" it's impossible to know exactly when he started reacting to being shot"

This is an opinion and, as I stated, I disagree with your opinion. The difference is that I have the decency to provide testable arguments to support my opinion.

You can only guess what is going on behind the sign.

This is correct and irrelevant

Why, exactly, would the SS and the FBI provide Mr West with a Z207 hit location, which he surveyed in on his plat at their direction?

You are the one constantly championing this shot timing. You tell me what they based it on. Do you know or have you just swallowed it up without question?

[John Tonkovich]

That is quite correct John, however, it was quite disingenuous of you to leave out this part of your sentence:

" it's impossible to know exactly when he started reacting to being shot"

This is an opinion and, as I stated, I disagree with your opinion. The difference is that I have the decency to provide testable arguments to support my opinion.

This is correct and irrelevant

You are the one constantly championing this shot timing. You tell me what they based it on. Do you know or have you just swallowed it up without question?

Ha!
Mr O: I was unaware of my " indecency". I have begun a search for it. I'll let you know what I find.

Again, you have no idea what is going on behind that sign. Nor, it seems, do you have any desire to find out. Instead, you have defaulted to the " official story".
Enjoy.

[Dan O'meara]

Ha!
Mr O: I was unaware of my " indecency". I have begun a search for it. I'll let you know what I find.

Again, you have no idea what is going on behind that sign. Nor, it seems, do you have any desire to find out. Instead, you have defaulted to the " official story".
Enjoy.

"The Official Story of What Went On Behind the Stemmons Sign"

Sounds like a thriller. Can't wait to get my hands on it.