The Nix Illusion

[Chris Bristow]

Okay at this point I have to say you really don't know what you're talkin about. Learn how lines of sight are applied to find specific locations. It's science but it's not rocket science.

[Dan O'meara]

Uh, ok.
"Distortion... will not make one object appear behind another falsely."
Uh, I guess you've got some "target fixation" going on. And disproving the fact of Nix/Zapruder non alignment is your target.

Let's recap: you cite Roberdeau's "map. You say this "map" tells you Nix's location. And the angle at which Nix is shooting from.

I point out that there are no photos/films to document Nix's location.
So, how do you know what the angle is?

You double down and tell me line of sight? And that the camera lens is unimportant? So, are changes in elevations unimportant? Do you conduct land surveys with a super 8 camera?

Where is Nix in the clip below?



This picture might help clarify things:

[John Tonkovich]

Where is Nix in the clip below?



This picture might help clarify things:

Where is Nix?

[John Tonkovich]

Okay at this point I have to say you really don't know what you're talkin about. Learn how lines of sight are applied to find specific locations. It's science but it's not rocket science.

So, first you present Roberdeau's "map", which is worthless.
Now you present the " lines of sight".
Please show your work. Not just your "results".
Thx.

[Dan O'meara]

Where is Nix?

He's not there.

This tells me he's either hidden from view in front of the 'north peristyle' (see Roberdeau's map) or he's somewhere on the south side of Main Street, possibly near the 'south peristyle'.
In the Nix film there's a moment, just after Hill has managed to get a proper foothold, that the limo passes behind a lamp-post.
This tells me he's not in front of the north peristyle as there's no lamp-posts there for the limo to pass behind. Therefore he must be somewhere on the south side of Main Street.

[Chris Bristow]

Bronson was standing on pedestal just like the one Zapruder was on. You can find that pedestal on the south side of Main Street Maybe 20 or 30 feet west of Houston. So he's 4 ft higher compared to Nix and his camera is going right over the head of Nix. The second Bronson image is after the attack when next started walking West on Main. At that point he would have been left of frame.

[Dan O'meara]

Bronson was standing on pedestal just like the one Zapruder was on. You can find that pedestal on the south side of Main Street Maybe 20 or 30 feet west of Houston. So he's 4 ft higher compared to Nix and his camera is going right over the head of Nix. The second Bronson image is after the attack when next started walking West on Main. At that point he would have been left of frame.

Just to emphasise the point you're making about Bronson and Nix filming from the almost the same position I made this (slightly dodgy) gif from part of the Nix film and an extreme blow-up from the Bronson film (hence its poor quality). The Nix film shows a woman with black hair, a long, light coloured coat and white footwear walking on the grass towards the limo. The limo is passing her and the motorcycles pass her after which she reacts with a step to the right. I've tried to catch the same moment in the Bronson clip and it is possible to tell from the relative position of the woman and the edge of the pedestal Zapruder is stood on that the films are taken from almost the same position:



PS. Not sure what you mean about the second Bronson image Chris, the still I posted is taken before the limo has even reached the spot shown in the films. I might be misunderstanding something.

[Chris Bristow]

Dan, I looked at that all wrong. Orville Nix didn't start walking West till the limo was almost to the under pass. And although Nix would have been below the camera level he is actually off to the right of frame in both the still and the film.