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Online W. Tracy Parnell

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Re: Exclusive: Jim Garrison Tells the HSCA that Thornley Impersonated Oswald
« Reply #800 on: January 06, 2022, 05:55:34 PM »
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This is the same logic used to create the "Harvey & Lee" theory. If someone "saw" Oswald anywhere, no matter how unlikely or even impossible the place, it must be true. Real investigators know that in a high-profile situation there will be such false sightings. Of course, Garrison wasn't a "real" anything except a real kook.

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Re: Exclusive: Jim Garrison Tells the HSCA that Thornley Impersonated Oswald
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Did Kerry Thornley Lie about Oswald's Height?
« Reply #801 on: January 07, 2022, 02:19:07 PM »
Gaeton Fonzi Channels Jim Garrison
Crack HSCA investigator Gaeton Fonzi spent some time with Jim Garrison during the early stages of the HSCA. Here is a Fonzi memo which shows he believed a lot of Garrison's nonsense.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/gaeton-fonzi-channels-jim-garrison

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Re: Gaeton Fonzi Channels Jim Garrison
« Reply #802 on: January 07, 2022, 04:20:37 PM »
Gaeton Fonzi Channels Jim Garrison
Crack HSCA investigator Gaeton Fonzi spent some time with Jim Garrison during the early stages of the HSCA. Here is a Fonzi memo which shows he believed a lot of Garrison's nonsense.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/gaeton-fonzi-channels-jim-garrison

Good work. Conformation bias in action. Fonzi became convinced of a conspiracy and by his own admission refused to accept any other possibility. Then he saw "evidence" of the conspiracy everywhere he looked including Thornley and the example for which he is best known-Veciana.

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Re: Gaeton Fonzi Channels Jim Garrison
« Reply #803 on: January 07, 2022, 11:08:29 PM »
Gaeton Fonzi Channels Jim Garrison
Crack HSCA investigator Gaeton Fonzi spent some time with Jim Garrison during the early stages of the HSCA. Here is a Fonzi memo which shows he believed a lot of Garrison's nonsense.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/gaeton-fonzi-channels-jim-garrison
Some very smart and decent men, and I think Fonzi was one, got caught up during that time in all of the hysteria about the CIA and other matters. The "zeigeist" "zeitgeist" of that time in America. That is,  the "family jewels" revelations, the plots, the upheaval over the war, the general cynicism about the country. They simply lost their bearings. And many people simply could not accept (still can't), as Norman Redlich said, the idea that a nobody like Oswald could kill the president, especially JFK. Fonzi was, it appears, one of these people. Although completely falling for Garrison's paranoid fantasies is inexcusable. What was Fonzi thinking?

And yes, the CIA did terrible things, albeit many of them with the approval and direction of presidents (including JFK); but going from that fact to the events in Dallas in November of 1963 is, for me, a stretch. After nearly 60 years there is simply no "there there."
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Re: Gaeton Fonzi Channels Jim Garrison
« Reply #804 on: January 07, 2022, 11:34:18 PM »
Good work. Conformation bias in action. Fonzi became convinced of a conspiracy and by his own admission refused to accept any other possibility. Then he saw "evidence" of the conspiracy everywhere he looked including Thornley and the example for which he is best known-Veciana.

How is this any different from an LN, who became convinced that Oswald did it alone and refuses to even consider other possibilities, regardless of the obvious weakness of the case against Oswald?

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Re: Gaeton Fonzi Channels Jim Garrison
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Re: Gaeton Fonzi Channels Jim Garrison
« Reply #805 on: January 08, 2022, 01:32:42 AM »
How is this any different from an LN, who became convinced that Oswald did it alone and refuses to even consider other possibilities, regardless of the obvious weakness of the case against Oswald?

I have always said I am open to accepting a conspiracy, but I need proof.

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Re: Gaeton Fonzi Channels Jim Garrison
« Reply #806 on: January 08, 2022, 02:06:28 AM »
I have always said I am open to accepting a conspiracy, but I need proof.

Indeed, so what's the evidence proof of Oswald's guilt?

Let's avoid a misunderstanding. Based on what I know now, it seems unlikely to me that Oswald wasn't involved in something, I just don't know what! I even consider it possible that he did indeed shoot Tippit after understanding the situation he had been placed in, but as far as I can tell there is no evidence, other than speculation and assumption, that he killed Kennedy.
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Did Kerry Thornley Lie about Oswald's Height?
« Reply #807 on: January 08, 2022, 02:34:02 PM »
Did Kerry Thornley Lie About Oswald's Height?
Jim garrison wrote a note to Gaeton Fonzi about Kerry Thornley's description of Oswald's height. He was convinced Thornley was lying. This is Jim Garrison at his craziest.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/did-kerry-thornley-lie-about-oswald-s-height

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Did Kerry Thornley Lie about Oswald's Height?
« Reply #807 on: January 08, 2022, 02:34:02 PM »