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Offline Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Josiah Thompson on Jim Garrison
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The United States has sent troops abroad or militarily struck other countries' territory 216 times since independence from Britain. Since 1945 the U.S has intervened in more than 20 countries throughout the world. Since World War II, the United States actually dropped BOMBS ON 23 COUNTRIES. These include: China 1945-46, Korea 1950-53, China 1950-53, Guatemala 1954, Indonesia 1958, Cuba 1959-60, Guatemala 1960, Congo 1964, Peru 1965, Laos 1964-73, Vietnam 1961-73, Cambodia 1969-70, Guatemala 1967-69, Grenada 1983, Lebanon 1984, Libya 1986, El Salvador 1980s, Nicaragua 1980s, Panama 1989, Iraq 1991-1999, Sudan 1998, Afghanistan 1998, and Yugoslavia 1999. Post World War II, the United States has also assisted in over 20 different coups throughout the world, and the CIA was responsible for half a dozen assassinations of political heads of state.

The following is a comprehensive summary of the imperialist strategy of the United States over the span of the past century: Argentina-1890-Troops sent to Buenos Aires to protect business interests.  Chile-1891- Marines sent to Chile and clashed with nationalist rebels. Haiti-1891-American troops suppress a revolt by Black workers on United States-claimed Navassa Island. Hawaii-1893-Navy sent to Hawaii to overthrow the independent kingdom-Hawaii annexed by the United States.  Nicaragua-1894-Troops occupied Bluefields, a city on the Caribbean Sea, for a month. China-1894-95-Navy, Army, and Marines landed during the Sino-JapaneseWar. Korea-1894-96 Troops kept in Seoul during the war. Panama-1895-Army, Navy, and Marines landed in the port city of Corinto. China-1894-1900-Troops occupied China during the Boxer Rebellion. Philippines-1898-1910-Navy and Army troops landed after the Philippines fell during the Spanish-American War; 600,000 Filipinos were killed. Cuba-1898-1902-Troops seized Cuba in the Spanish-American War; the United States still maintains troops at Guantanamo Bay today. Puerto Rico-1898-present-Troops seized Puerto Rico in the Spanish-American War and still occupies Puerto Rico today.

Nicaragua-1898-Marines landed at the port of San Juan del Sur. Samoa-1899-Troops landed as a result over the battle for succession to the throne. Panama 1901-14 Navy supported the revolution when Panama claimed independence from Colombia. American troops have occupied the Canal Zone since 1901 when construction for the canal began. Honduras-1903 Marines landed to intervene during a revolution. Dominican Rep-1903-04 Troops landed to protect American interestsduring a revolution. Korea 1904-05 Marines landed during the Russo-Japanese War. Cuba-1906-09-Troops landed during an election. Nicaragua-1907- Troops landed and a protectorate was set up. Honduras-1907-Marines landed during Honduras war with Nicaragua. Panama-1908-Marines sent in during Panama's election.

Nicaragua-1910-Marines landed for a second time in Bluefields and Corinto. Honduras-1911-Troops sent in to protect American interests during Honduras' civil war. China-1911-41-Navy and troops sent to China during continuous flare-ups.  Cuba-1912-Troops sent in to protect American interests in Havana. Panama-1912-Marines landed during Panama's election. Honduras-1912-Troops sent in to protect American interests. Nicaragua-1912-33-Troops occupied Nicaragua and fought guerrillas during its 20-year civil war. Mexico-1913-Navy evacuated Americans during revolution. Dominican Rep-1914 Navy fought with rebels over Santo Domingo. Mexico-1914-18-Navy and troops sent in to intervene against nationalists. Haiti-1914-34-Troops occupied Haiti after arevolution and occupied Haiti for 19 years. Dominican Rep-1916-24-Marines occupied the Dominican Republic for eight years. Cuba-1917-33-Troops landed and occupied Cuba for 16 years; Cuba became an economic protectorate. 

World War I -1917-18 - Navy and Army sent to Europe to fight the Axis powers. Russia 1918-22 Navy and troops sent to eastern Russia after the Bolshevik Revolution; Army made five landings. Honduras-1919 Marines sent during Honduras' national elections. Guatemala 1920 Troops occupied Guatemala for two weeks during a union strike.Turkey 1922 Troops fought nationalists in Smyrna. China 1922-27 Navy and Army troops deployed during a nationalist revolt. Honduras 1924-25 Troops landed twice during a national election.   Panama 1925 - Troops sent in to put down a general strike. China 1927-34 Marines sent in and stationed for seven years throughout China. El Salvador-1932 Naval warships deployed during the FMLN revolt under Marti. World War II 1941-45 Military fought the Axis powers: Japan, Germany, and Italy. Yugoslavia 1946-Navy deployed off the coast of Yugoslavia in response to the downing of an American plane. Uruguay-1947-Bombers deployed as a show of military force. Greece 1947-49 United States operations insured a victory for the far right in national "elections." Germany -1948 Military deployed in response to the Berlin blockade; the Berlin airlift lasts 444 days. Philippines-1948-54 The CIA directed a civil war against the Filipino Huk revolt. Puerto Rico-1950-Military helped crush an independence rebellion in Ponce. Korean War 1951-53 Military sent in during the war.   

Iran-1953-The CIA orchestrated the overthrow of democratically elected Mossadegh and restored the Shah to power. Vietnam-1954-The United States offered weapons to the French in the battle against Ho Chi Minh and the Viet Minh. Guatemala-1954-The CIA overthrew the democratically elected Arbenz and placed Colonel Armas in power. Egypt-1956-Marines deployed to evacuate foreigners after Nasser nationalized the Suez Canal. Lebanon-1958-Navy supported an Army occupation of Lebanon during its civil war.   Panama-1958-Troops landed after Panamanians demonstrations threatened the Canal Zone. Vietnam-1950s-75-Vietnam War. Cuba-1961-The CIA-directed Bay of Pigs invasions failed to overthrow the Castro government. Cuba-1962-The Navy quarantines Cuba during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Laos-1962 Military occupied Laos during its civil war against the Pathet Lao guerrillas. Panama-1964-Troops sent in and Panamanians shot while protesting the United States presence in the Canal Zone. Indonesia-1965-The CIA orchestrated a military coup. Dominican Rep -1965-66- Troops deployed during a national election. Guatemala-1966-67-Green Berets sent in. Cambodia-1969-75-Military sent in after the VietnamWar expanded into Cambodia. Oman-1970-Marines landed to direct a possible invasion into Iran. Laos-1971-75-Americans carpet-bomb the countryside during Laos' civil war.

Chile-1973-The CIA orchestrated a coup, killing President Allende who had been popularly elected. The CIA helped to establish a military regime under General Pinochet.   Cambodia-1975-Twenty-eight Americans killed in an effort to retrieve the crew of the Mayaquez, which had been seized. Angola-1976-92- The CIA backed South African rebels fighting against Marxist Angola. Iran -1980- Americans aborted a rescue attempt to liberate 52 hostages seized in the Teheran embassy. Libya-1981-American fighters shoot down two Libyan fighters.   El Salvador-198-92-The CIA, troops, and advisers aid in El Salvador's war against the FMLN. Nicaragua-1981-90-The CIA and NSC directed the Contra War against the Sandinistas. Lebanon-1982-84-Marines occupied Beirut during Lebanon's civil war; 241 were killed in the American barracks and Reagan "redeployed" the troops to the Mediterranean. Honduras-1983-89-Troops sent in to build bases near the Honduran border. Grenada-1983-84-American invasion overthrew the Maurice Bishop government.

Iran-1984-American fighters shot down two Iranian planes over the Persian Gulf. Libya-1986-American fighters hit targets in and around the capital city of Tripoli.   Bolivia-1986-The Army assisted government troops on raids of cocaine areas.   Iran-1987-88-The United States intervened on the side of Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War. Libya-1989-Navy shot down two more Libyan jets.   Virgin Islands-1989-Troops landed during unrest among Virgin Island peoples. Philippines -1989-Air Force provided air cover for government during coup. Panama-1989-90-27,000 Americans landed in overthrow of President Noriega; over 2,000 Panama civilians were killed. Liberia-1990-Troops entered Liberia to evacuate foreigners during civil war. Saudi Arabia-1990-91American troops sent to Saudi Arabia, which was a staging area in the war against Iraq. Kuwait-1991-Troops sent into Kuwait to turn back Saddam Hussein. Somalia-1992-94-Troops occupied Somalia during civil war. Bosnia-1993-95-Air Force jets bombed "no-fly zone" during civil war in Yugoslavia. Haiti-1994-96-American troops and Navy provided a blockade against Haiti's military government. The CIA restored Aristide to power. Zaire-1996-97-Marines sent into Rwanda Hutus' refugee camps in the area where the Congo revolution began.   Albania-1997-Troops deployed during evacuation of foreigners.   Sudan-1998-American missiles destroyed a pharmaceutical complex where alleged nerve gas components were manufactured. Afghanistan-1998-Missiles launched towards alleged Afghan terrorist training camps.

The U.S. Government has been involved in assassination plots of prominent foreign leaders since the end of Second World War.
Question: What is the source for that copy-and-paste effort on your part?

I'll say again, this is the Garrisonite view of the causes of the Cold War. Would you care to list the times the Soviets and other communist nations sent into troops? Or is just an indictment solely of the US?

As Henry Wallace (remember him?) said: "Russia may not want a hot war at tang time in the net ten years, but she certainly wants such a continuation of the Cold War as will enable her, through her satellites and internally-planted subversives, to take over the greatest amount of territory possible. Russia is still on the march, and the question now is when"

And Wallace again: "More and more I am convinced that Russian Communism in its total disregard of truth, in its fanaticism, its intolerance and its resolute denial of God and religion is something utterly evil."

Utterly evil. That's your guy Wallace not me.

Again: if you want to believe the Cold War was caused solely or mostly by the West, by the US specifically, feel free to make that argument. This isn't the Soviet Union or a communist country where such views weren't allowed.
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Offline Christer Jacobsson

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Re: Josiah Thompson on Jim Garrison
« Reply #97 on: April 07, 2021, 10:22:57 PM »
Question: What is the source for that copy-and-paste effort on your part?

I'll say again, this is the Garrisonite view of the causes of the Cold War. Would you care to list the times the Soviets and other communist nations sent into troops? Or is just an indictment solely of the US?

As Henry Wallace (remember him?) said: "Russia may not want a hot war at tang time in the net ten years, but she certainly wants such a continuation of the Cold War as will enable her, through her satellites and internally-planted subversives, to take over the greatest amount of territory possible. Russia is still on the march, and the question now is when"

And Wallace again: "More and more I am convinced that Russian Communism in its total disregard of truth, in its fanaticism, its intolerance and its resolute denial of God and religion is something utterly evil."

Utterly evil. That's your guy Wallace not me.

Again: if you want to believe the Cold War was caused solely or mostly by the West, by the US specifically, feel free to make that argument. This isn't the Soviet Union or a communist country where such views weren't allowed.

“It has been my policy not to respond to each of the many canards which have been part of the campaign to discredit my investigation, nor to waste time trying to prove negatives.”

/Jim Garrison
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New Orleans

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« Reply #98 on: April 20, 2021, 01:03:49 AM »
James DiEugenio has now published nine articles about me! Who doesn't like being talked about? I thought it was time to return the favor.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/fred-litwin-s-follies

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Re: Civility Among Researchers - My reply to James DiEugenio
« Reply #99 on: April 20, 2021, 01:57:39 AM »
Great job Fred. Jim D. is not happy over at EF. :)

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Re: Civility Among Researchers - My reply to James DiEugenio
« Reply #100 on: April 20, 2021, 05:07:13 PM »
I particularly enjoyed reading about Paul Hoch and how he's still helping other researchers. His newsletter made most writings on the assassination pale in comparison.


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Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: Civility Among Researchers - My reply to James DiEugenio
« Reply #101 on: April 20, 2021, 11:03:22 PM »

James DiEugenio has now published nine articles about me! Who doesn't like being talked about? I thought it was time to return the favor.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/fred-litwin-s-follies

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“I was ready to walk the book out to the trash bin behind my apartment. Instead, I decided to take a few days off. I had to in order to recover my damaged sensibilities.”

This sentence, by DiEugenio, makes me question the mental balance of the book reader more than the book writer. What the hell kind of a book would you have to be reading to require you to take a few days off from work? The Nine Gates of the Kingdom of Shadows?
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Re: Civility Among Researchers - My reply to James DiEugenio
« Reply #102 on: April 22, 2021, 06:52:16 AM »
Joe,
DiEugenio is a retired school teacher. You do not quote him saying, "from work".

Do not mistake this post as a defense of Jim DiEugenio. It should be obvious we are in deep disagreement about Garrison. DiEugenio and now Mr. Litwin, are victims of Garrison's deception, but not in the way Mr. Litwin believes.

And Fred, a search of your blog posts indicates no mention of the funding of the Garrison Investigation, beyond one mention of the funding organization, "Truth or Consequences". You did mention David Baldwin in one of your posts, referencing a document similar to this, but not including Jesse Core, a close friend of Baldwin's who succeeded Baldwin as the Trade Mart's PR director and later was PR director of Garrison's NODA political campaign. Jesse Core, "won over" Harold, to say the least!

From the Weisberg archive, the beginning of a long friendship :




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Mr. Litwin did not share with his readers the following, also from author Don Carpenter,

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http://blog.donaldhcarpenter.com/2011_03_01_archive.html
Wednesday, March 23, 2011
David Baldwin/Clay Shaw
I spent some time last week nailing down the relationship between David Baldwin, the ex-CIA man, and Clay Shaw. There are a lot of interesting coincidences in that one.

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And Fred, wasn't Garrison's mentor, Eberhard Deutsch, and wasn't Dorothy Brandao one of three longtime CIA staff in the NOLA domestic contacts office?


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Tom S.
May 10, 2016 at 6:08 pm   

Link to last week’s “Cotw” – https://jfkfacts.org/comment-week-21-4/

http://www.honduras.com/banana-trade-in-honduras/12/
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The 1920’s were a real challenge for division managers. After the passing away of Vicente D’Antoni, the division was managed by both Carmelo D’Antoni and by John Miceli, who did so, along with their other responsibilities on an off and on basis. This went on until 1922, when Biagio D’Antoni was assigned the position.

John Miceli – http://specialcollections.tulane.edu/archon/?p=collections/findingaid&id=84&disabletheme=1

Neighbor’s of Carlos Marcello :
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=132863&relPageId=8&search=biaggio

John Miceli’s sister is married to Carmelo D’Antoni,(1)(1a) brother of Biaggio and Standard Fruit chairman, Dr. Joseph S. D’Antoni.

In 1939, John Miceli married Dorothy Agnes Brandao.(2) His brother, Augusto was counsel for Standard Fruit.

    Times-Picayune, The (New Orleans, LA) — Saturday, July 5, 2003
    Dorothy Agnes Brandao, a retired Central Intelligence Agency field agent, died Sunday at Chateau de Notre Dame. She was 92.,,,

Dorothy Brandao's brother-in-law was inside counsel for Standard Fruit, and outside counsel was...

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Standard Fruit and Steamship Co. v. Hampton
Opinion No. 15958.
June 5, 1956.

Robert E. Leake, Jr., Ralph L. Kaskell, Jr., Deutsch, Kerrigan Stiles, New Orleans, La., Eberhard P. Deutsch, Augusto P. Miceli, René H. Himel, Jr., New Orleans, La., of counsel, for appellant.

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http://www.assassinationweb.com/roseb1.htm
INCA DINKA DO*
by Jerry D. Rose
This article originally published in The Fourth Decade Vol. 4, #3, Mar. 1997.
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Beyond the T&C connections to INCA represented by Robertson, Shilstone and Raul, there is at least one other likely connection. In reporting the formation of T&C, James and Wardlaw mention a few additional members, namely Eberhard Deutsch,…. (33) The name of Deutsch jumps out of that list, since he is an attorney whose name appears on the letterhead of the Directors of INCA. (34) Deutsch has been described by Scott (who was probably unaware of his T&C connection) as the General Counsel of Standard Fruit and as “Jim Garrison’s former law partner and political mentor.” (35)
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Re: Civility Among Researchers - My reply to James DiEugenio
« Reply #103 on: April 22, 2021, 06:46:25 PM »
Joe,
DiEugenio is a retired school teacher. You do not quote him saying, "from work".

Do not mistake this post as a defense of Jim DiEugenio. It should be obvious we are in deep disagreement about Garrison. DiEugenio and now Mr. Litwin, are victims of Garrison's deception, but not in the way Mr. Litwin believes.

And Fred, a search of your blog posts indicates no mention of the funding of the Garrison Investigation, beyond one mention of the funding organization, "Truth or Consequences". You did mention David Baldwin in one of your posts, referencing a document similar to this, but not including Jesse Core, a close friend of Baldwin's who succeeded Baldwin as the Trade Mart's PR director and later was PR director of Garrison's NODA political campaign. Jesse Core, "won over" Harold, to say the least!

From the Weisberg archive, the beginning of a long friendship :




....





And Fred, wasn't Garrison's mentor, Eberhard Deutsch, and wasn't Dorothy Brandao one of three longtime CIA staff in the NOLA domestic contacts office?


Dorothy Brandao's brother-in-law was inside counsel for Standard Fruit, and outside counsel was...
  Thanks, Tom.  Your turn, Fred?

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