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Offline Bill Brown

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The Operative Record on Connally
« on: November 07, 2020, 05:59:16 AM »
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Governor Connally was originally seen by Dr. Carrico.  After visiting with the Governor, Dr. Carrico left to go attend to the President.

Dr. Shaw was called in to attend to Connally.  The Governor's major (and most serious) wound fell under the area of specialty of Dr. Shaw.  The opening in Connally's chest wall caused the right lung to collapse.  Tubes were inserted into the lung through two of the ribs in order to reexpand the lung.  Once this was in place, beginning at 1:35 p.m., Dr. Shaw started surgery on Connally's chest wound.  He sutured the damaged lung and lacerated muscles.  Once this was completed, Shaw cut away the damaged skin around the wound in Connally's back and sutured the back muscle and skin.  All of this was completed at 3:20.

Then, from 4:00 p.m. to 4:50 p.m., Dr. Gregory performed surgery on Connally's wrist.  While this was going on, Dr. Shires attended to the thigh wound.

The point is, by the time Dr. Shires started surgery on Connally's thigh wound, Dr. Shaw (who performed surgery to the chest and back) had been gone for an hour.  In fact, when Dr. Shaw gave his press conference to discuss the current status of the Governor, surgery to Connally's thigh had not yet begun.  It was during this press conference (again, given at a point in time in which attention to the thigh wound had not started yet) that Dr. Shaw mentions that the bullet was in the thigh.

Dr. Shaw knew of the thigh wound (how could he not?) but he did not explore it.  Shaw's attention was on the chest and right lung.  Shaw was making an assumption that the bullet was still in the thigh.  An assumption was all he could make regarding anything to do with the thigh.

Dr. Shaw made a natural assumption (that the bullet was still in the thigh), though an incorrect one.
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The Operative Record on Connally
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Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: The Operative Record on Connally
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2020, 05:10:28 AM »

In discussion the issue of when Connally’s wounds were checked out, we should mention CE 399. It is a usual CT claim that CE 399 was planted. But this doesn’t make sense.

CE 399 was found at about 1:00 PM. About the time President Kennedy was declared dead in the operating room. Planting CE 399 works great if there are no bullets to be found in JFK’s body or within Connally’s body. Not so good if any extra bullets are found in either body. If found, how could CE 399 be explained?

•   One bullet (40% of it) found in two fragments on the floor of the limousine
•   One bullet found in either JFK’s body or in Connally’s body.
•   One bullet found on the stretcher.

How does his all fit with the SBT? At 1:00 CST, I would think the conspirators would be afraid of too many bullets being found and would not want to plant an extra one.


Of course, if Richard Gilbride is right, JFK was killed to coverup the alien treaties and the existence of UFO’s, it could make sense. It would be as simple as waiting to get the results of the autopsy on JFK’s body, waiting to get the doctor reports on Governor Connally, learning that there have not been enough or possibly as excess of bullets already found, then simply use a time machine made from Roswell alien technology to go back in time to plant CE 399 so it will be found before the bodies of JFK and Connally are checked out, making it seem illogical that anyone would plant CE 399.

Indeed, they could even use Oswald using the Carcano, no matter how bad a shot he was. They could simply go back in time over and over again until he made a lucky shot. Which would negate the need to plant CE 399.

Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: The Operative Record on Connally
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2020, 12:24:11 PM »
In discussion the issue of when Connally’s wounds were checked out, we should mention CE 399. It is a usual CT claim that CE 399 was planted. But this doesn’t make sense.

CE 399 was found at about 1:00 PM. About the time President Kennedy was declared dead in the operating room. Planting CE 399 works great if there are no bullets to be found in JFK’s body or within Connally’s body. Not so good if any extra bullets are found in either body. If found, how could CE 399 be explained?

•   One bullet (40% of it) found in two fragments on the floor of the limousine
•   One bullet found in either JFK’s body or in Connally’s body.
•   One bullet found on the stretcher.

How does his all fit with the SBT? At 1:00 CST, I would think the conspirators would be afraid of too many bullets being found and would not want to plant an extra one.


Of course, if Richard Gilbride is right, JFK was killed to coverup the alien treaties and the existence of UFO’s, it could make sense. It would be as simple as waiting to get the results of the autopsy on JFK’s body, waiting to get the doctor reports on Governor Connally, learning that there have not been enough or possibly as excess of bullets already found, then simply use a time machine made from Roswell alien technology to go back in time to plant CE 399 so it will be found before the bodies of JFK and Connally are checked out, making it seem illogical that anyone would plant CE 399.

Indeed, they could even use Oswald using the Carcano, no matter how bad a shot he was. They could simply go back in time over and over again until he made a lucky shot. Which would negate the need to plant CE 399.

In discussion the issue of when Connally’s wounds were checked out, we should mention CE 399. It is a usual CT claim that CE 399 was planted. But this doesn’t make sense.

I agree. Planting a bullet like CE399 would not have made any sense at all. Even more so because there was no guarantee that the bullet would be found where Tomlinson found it.

I don't understand why CTs would even insist that CE399 was planted at Parkland when there is zero evidence to support the conclusion that the bullet now in evidence as CE399 was ever at Parkland and there is at least some circumstantial evidence that it most likely wasn't.

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Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: The Operative Record on Connally
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2020, 03:50:55 AM »
Very inspiring post, Mr Brown.
Inspired me to actually look at Dr Crenshaw's drawings.
And read some of the Connaly docors' testimony.
 For the record, there was still a bullet fragment remaining in Connally's thigh ...long after the surgery, press conference, etc. Its in JBC's  crypt probably right now.
Does that complicate things for you, or clear them right up, like..Pepsodent?

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Re: The Operative Record on Connally
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2020, 03:50:55 AM »