Where oh where?

[Walt Cakebread]

The wallet in the footage most likely belonged to one of the police officers at the Tippit scene.

Yeah, right... That's why Officer Croy confirmed that he found Oswald's wallet at the Tippit scene and why FBI agent Bob Barrett is saying, until this day, that he saw Oswald's wallet at the Tippit scene, being held by Captain Westbrook, who actually asked him if knew the names Oswald and Hidell.

Perhaps you should rely a little less on what Dale Myers is saying. He has a book to sell and a website to promote.

Psssst... Martin... Bob Barret was one of the conspirators.

[Joffrey van de Wiel]

Which wallet held the Hidell identity card?

[Martin Weidmann]

Which wallet held the Hidell identity card?

That's the million dollar question. Bentley allegedly took a wallet from Oswald in the car after his arrest. During a tv interview the next day he said there were normal things in the wallet, like a credit card and a drivers license. No report by anybody involved in the arrest of Oswald that was ever filed mentions the Hidell I.D. or the wallet itself.

On the other hand, FBI agent Barrett has always maintained that Captain Westbrook held a wallet, found at the Tippit scene by Officer Croy, and asked him (Barrett) if he had ever heard of Oswald or Hidell.

Now, this is where it gets tricky. There is no chain of custody for either wallet. All we know is that Detective Rose started his shift about the same time as Oswald was brought in. Rose was given, by an unidentified officer, a wallet that contained the Oswald and Hidell I.D.'s. It is anybody's guess which wallet that actually was.

So, it would seem there were two wallets in play, and for neither one there was a chain of custody. One of those wallets simply disappeared, or shall we say it was denied that it existed, despite the fact that Westbrook was captured on video holding what looks like a wallet.

It's just another anomaly in a long list of anomalies concerning the physical evidence in the Tippit murder case.

[Martin Weidmann]

Dale Myers shows both wallets in his book With Malice. The shape of the small fold down section looks different on Oswalds wallet than one seen at the Tippit site.

So whatever the case of the wallet in the footage, its not the wallet (Oswalds wallet) that is currently at the National Archives.

There you go again... Relying on Myers, who isn't an unbiased researcher. His comparison is worthless if the wallet now in the National Archives isn't Oswald's wallet after all.

So whatever the case of the wallet in the footage, its not the wallet (Oswalds wallet) that is currently at the National Archives.

That's true. Who knows where that wallet came from. Perhaps it's simply the wallet Bentley took from Oswald in the car, if that really happened. We will never know because there is no chain of custody for the wallet nor is there one word written about the wallet in any DPD report, which by itself is kinda strange also.

[Richard Smith]

It always struck me as odd that Oswald defenders so desperately want Oswald's wallet to be found at the Tippit murder scene.  And they presumably believe it was planted there but for some inexplicable reason that defies explanation, that means the DPD cover up finding the very person's wallet who they are otherwise going to great pains to convict for the crime according to those same CTers!  Wow.  But consistency is never a strong point in a good conspiracy narrative.   Finding Oswald's wallet at the Tippt scene would have been highly incriminating to him.  The DPD would have shouted it from the rooftop.  They would have immediately broadcast his name as a potential suspect but that didn't happen.  So, unfortunately, that wasn't Oswald's wallet.  Here is a question.  Did Tippit have some type of citation book?  It seems entirely logical that the DPD would have examined Tippit's citations to see if perhap he recorded a name or license number of a potential suspect.   Whatever it is we can rule out it being Oswald's wallet.

[Martin Weidmann]

It always struck me as odd that Oswald defenders so desperately want Oswald's wallet to be found at the Tippit murder scene.  And they presumably believe it was planted there but for some inexplicable reason that defies explanation, that means the DPD cover up finding the very person's wallet who they are otherwise going to great pains to convict for the crime according to those same CTers!  Wow.  But consistency is never a strong point in a good conspiracy narrative.   Finding Oswald's wallet at the Tippt scene would have been highly incriminating to him.  The DPD would have shouted it from the rooftop.  They would have immediately broadcast his name as a potential suspect but that didn't happen.  So, unfortunately, that wasn't Oswald's wallet.  Here is a question.  Did Tippit have some type of citation book?  It seems entirely logical that the DPD would have examined Tippit's citations to see if perhap he recorded a name or license number of a potential suspect.   Whatever it is we can rule out it being Oswald's wallet.

It always struck me as odd that Oswald defenders so desperately want Oswald's wallet to be found at the Tippit murder scene.  And they presumably believe it was planted there but for some inexplicable reason that defies explanation, that means the DPD cover up finding the very person's wallet who they are otherwise going to great pains to convict for the crime according to those same CTers!  Wow.

Is that all your limited brain capacity can process? There is one guy who seems to be a spider in this web and that's Captain Westbrook. He is the one on video who is holding the wallet found by Officer Croy at the Tippit scene and he is the one who asked FBI agent Barrett if he had ever heard of Oswald or Hidell. For it not to be a wallet linked to Oswald, Croy and Barrett must both be lying. Well, are they and why?

Westbrook is also the one who allegedly gave the white jacket found at the parking lot to an unidentified officer only to have the suddenly turned grey jacket (with initials from officers who were not even at the parking lot and/or in the chain of custody) back in his possession, some two hours later when he presents it to the evidence room. Where he got if from, nobody knows... There is no record for it.

The same goes for the wallet Westbrook had at the Tippit scene. We already know that it wasn't Tippit's and we have no idea where it went, as there is no record for it anywhere to be found. There is also no record whatsoever to be found for the wallet Bentley said he took from Oswald in the car after his arrest. What we do know is that Bentley went on TV the next day and told the world he had taken the wallet from Oswald. If Bentley presents himself on TV as the man who took Oswald's wallet from him, it's not unlikely - and this is speculation on my part - that he would have said the same thing at the police station when they brought Oswald in.

If my speculation is correct, the DPD had a problem, because now they had two wallets to deal with. The one Westbrook had, with the Oswald and Hidell ID's in it and the one Bentley took from Oswald. So, what happened next is crucial. Detective Rose started his shift around the time Oswald was brought in. He went to talk to him and some unidentified officer gave him a wallet, saying this was the wallet taken from Oswald. And low and behold it was the wallet that contained the Oswald and Hidell ID's.

You will probably not answer this, but I am going to ask anyway; What do you think could have possibly happened there?

Finding Oswald's wallet at the Tippt scene would have been highly incriminating to him.  The DPD would have shouted it from the rooftop.

Unless they couldn't do so, because Bentley had already told people he took the wallet from Oswald in the car.

So, unfortunately, that wasn't Oswald's wallet.

Pure speculation on your part, but pray tell, who did that wallet belong to? We know it wasn't Tippit's, because his widow has that one.

Here is a question.  Did Tippit have some type of citation book?  It seems entirely logical that the DPD would have examined Tippit's citations to see if perhap he recorded a name or license number of a potential suspect. 

I assume he probably had some sort of notebook, but what can be seen in the video is no notebook. And if it was, where did it go? There is no mention of a notebook anywhere. Marie Tippit got her husband's wallet back, but not a notebook. At least not that I am aware of. So, where did it go?

Whatever it is we can rule out it being Oswald's wallet.

No. That's what you want to rule out. If there is one thing we can actually rule out, it's your biased and dishonest opinion.

[Louis Earl]

So it was someone else's wallet lying in that front yard on 10th street, on that day and at that time. Too bad that when Marina took the hyper incriminating back yard photos of LHO he was not holding his wallet so we could get a good look at it.  Of course his hands were full of murder weapons at the time. 

[Bill Chapman]

So it was someone else's wallet lying in that front yard on 10th street, on that day and at that time. Too bad that when Marina took the hyper incriminating back yard photos of LHO he was not holding his wallet so we could get a good look at it.  Of course his hands were full of murder weapons at the time.

One was for assassination purposes
 
The other was for doing 'what boys do'
Poor dumb cop..