The Shot That Missed

[Jack Nessan]

That’s probably the reason (NOT) why most witnesses heard three shots.

You were discussing Drain's testimony which is obviously a two shot scenario. Apparently now you are discussing your opinion. Drain tried to explain there was not a missed shot. In fact he explains there was only two shots.

[Jack Nessan]

The overwhelming majority of "ear-witnesses" heard three shots only.
That is a fact.

The overwhelming majority of "eye" witnesses describe two shots or second shot as being headshot. All five people just in JFK's car.

Interesting that you would place more emphasis on the opinions of witnesses who did not know what was happening as opposed to those who did.

[Charles Collins]

You were discussing Drain's testimony which is obviously a two shot scenario. Apparently now you are discussing your opinion. Drain tried to explain there was not a missed shot. In fact he explains there was only two shots.

Read it again. He most certainly does not.

[Dan O'meara]

The overwhelming majority of "eye" witnesses describe two shots or second shot as being headshot. All five people just in JFK's car.

Interesting that you would place more emphasis on the opinions of witnesses who did not know what was happening as opposed to those who did.

What are you talking about?
Are you saying the people in the limo were the only ones who knew the limo was being fired on?
Are you saying people outside the limo didn't see JFK being shot?
Are you saying more than 150 witnesses who heard 3 shots only were wrong?

[Jack Nessan]

Read it again. He most certainly does not.

He most certainly does.   Drain: "He had one cartridge in the chamber ready, so he only had two more to put in to fire"


You chose to quote Drain. How do you read it? One empty shell CE 543 on the floor prior to LHO preparing to fire, followed by two shots, one unfired cartridge by Fritz still in the chamber of LHO's rifle. Seems pretty straight forward.

[Jack Nessan]

What are you talking about?
Are you saying the people in the limo were the only ones who knew the limo was being fired on?
Are you saying people outside the limo didn't see JFK being shot?
Are you saying more than 150 witnesses who heard 3 shots only were wrong?

Once again, do you place more value on the "ear" witnesses standing in an echo chamber over the eyewitnesses who could see and also hear what had happened? It appears you do.

Are you saying the people unable to see what was happening in the limo knew more than the people who were in the limo?
Are you saying people outside the limo didn't know JFK had been shot because the could see it as well as hear it?
Are you saying more than 150 witnesses who heard  noises knew more than the people who actually witnessed the shooting?

[Dan O'meara]

Once again, do you place more value on the "ear" witnesses standing in an echo chamber over the eyewitnesses who could see and also hear what had happened? It appears you do.

I don't know what you're saying here.
Nobody was stood in an echo chamber.
All I'm saying is that the vast majority of witnesses in Dealey Plaza heard three shots. That's a fact. Why is that somehow discounted if they didn't actually see the bullets hit the target?

Are you saying the people unable to see what was happening in the limo knew more than the people who were in the limo?

No. That's a ridiculous thing to ask

Are you saying people outside the limo didn't know JFK had been shot because the could see it as well as hear it?

What??

Are you saying more than 150 witnesses who heard  noises knew more than the people who actually witnessed the shooting?

Many of the people who heard the 'noises' also witnessed the shooting. I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
The fact so many people heard three shots can lead us to conclude three audible shots were fired. That's it. What is it you think I'm saying?

[Charles Collins]

He most certainly does.   Drain: "He had one cartridge in the chamber ready, so he only had two more to put in to fire"


You chose to quote Drain. How do you read it? One empty shell CE 543 on the floor prior to LHO preparing to fire, followed by two shots, one unfired cartridge by Fritz still in the chamber of LHO's rifle. Seems pretty straight forward.

Drain goes on to describe what they believe happened with three separate shots. Therefore, he didn’t indicate that CE 543 was already empty as you contend, quite  the opposite.