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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #192 on: February 02, 2021, 08:22:30 PM »
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Note the date-----------March 16..........
-----------the day AFTER two curtain rods are submitted to the DPD lab for testing for Mr Oswald's prints
-----------a week BEFORE two curtain rods are formally taken from the Paine garage


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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
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Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #193 on: February 02, 2021, 08:37:09 PM »



Manipulation of this document alone should be enough to implicate Day and the DPD. They controlled all the evidence from sheep-dipping Oswald with the BYPs to the curtain rods and planting and discovering the MC in the TSBD.

What I find the most interesting, however, is the apparent closing of the gap between Day's signature and the word "Oswald". That gap is not the result of simply photocopying the document, but rather a sophisticated modification of the document that went beyond whiting out and changing the date. The modified document was pieced together and for some reason Day's comment and signature were re-positioned relative to one another. Certainly not on purpose, but it shows the effort that went into modifying the document to deceive. And why was a photocopy submitted into evidence instead of the original document? This is a very damning document that confirms the DPD's involvement as conspirators.

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #194 on: February 02, 2021, 08:53:38 PM »


Manipulation of this document alone should be enough to implicate Day and the DPD. They controlled all the evidence from sheep-dipping Oswald with the BYPs to the curtain rods and planting and discovering the MC in the TSBD.

What I find the most interesting, however, is the apparent closing of the gap between Day's signature and the word "Oswald". That gap is not the result of simply photocopying the document, but rather a sophisticated modification of the document that went beyond whiting out and changing the date. The modified document was pieced together and for some reason Day's comment and signature were re-positioned relative to one another. Certainly not on purpose, but it shows the effort that went into modifying the document to deceive. And why was a photocopy submitted into evidence instead of the original document? This is a very damning document that confirms the DPD's involvement as conspirators.

Manipulation of this document alone should be enough to implicate Day and the DPD. They controlled all the evidence from sheep-dipping Oswald with the BYPs to the curtain rods and planting and discovering the MC in the TSBD.

There is ample evidence that the DPD railroaded Lee Oswald, and lynched him before he could expose them.   This document is a little icing on the cake.....

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
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Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #195 on: February 02, 2021, 08:58:25 PM »
Note the date-----------March 16..........
-----------the day AFTER two curtain rods are submitted to the DPD lab for testing for Mr Oswald's prints
-----------a week BEFORE two curtain rods are formally taken from the Paine garage



Yet another damning document that implicates the WC, Hoover and the FBI into the mix. Hoover had already recruited the DPD to manage all the evidence, including the curtain rod BS. Otherwise, the WC (Dulles), Hoover and Johnson knew way too much about Oswald and the evidence mere hours after the assassination.


Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #196 on: February 02, 2021, 09:02:38 PM »
Do you think Tony Fratini will thank you for sharing his private information on a public forum?

Feel free to point out that which would cause a person shame or embarrassment in regards Tony.
He felt free to reveal it to me; and Waldo showed genuine concern so I passed it along at his request.

I personally worry about those hereabouts who are absent for long periods.
BTW I asked Jerry Organ about Waldo's lengthy absence a few weeks ago.
Ask Jerry if you don't believe me.

As for you, you are here 24/7/365 it seems.
So how can we miss you if you won't go away?
 :D

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #197 on: February 02, 2021, 09:09:14 PM »
Feel free to point out that which would cause a person shame or embarrassment in regards Tony.
He felt free to reveal it to me; and Waldo showed genuine concern so I passed it along at his request.

I personally worry about those hereabouts who are absent for long periods.
BTW I asked Jerry Organ about Waldo's lengthy absence a few weeks ago.
Ask Jerry if you don't believe me.

As for you, you are here 24/7/365 it seems.
So how can we miss you if you won't go away?
 :D

Feel free to point out that which would cause a person shame or embarrassment in regards Tony.
He felt free to reveal it to me; and Waldo showed genuine concern so I passed it along at his request.


Bla bla bla... Tony apparently told you in a private message. If he wanted to have it all over the forum, he would have posted it himself.

I personally worry about those hereabouts who are absent for long periods.
BTW I asked Jerry Organ about Waldo's lengthy absence a few weeks ago.
Ask Jerry if you don't believe me.

As for you, you are here 24/7/365 it seems.
So how can we miss you if you won't go away?


Nice pivot...as to the latter part; If true - which it isn't - wouldn't you also need to be here 24/7 to notice? Ever thought about that before you made that pathetic comment, genius?

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #198 on: February 02, 2021, 09:25:20 PM »
I would be very surprised indeed if the DPD felt it had to justify itself to some member of the public. I would imagine anyone finding the rods would be taken in and grilled about every single detail of the discovery. The DPD didn't need to make a fake copy to impress someone off the street.

Well, we're not talking about some member of the public/someone off the street but a Depository employee. Tricky business.
 
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I totally agree that the testimony regarding the taking of the rods from the Paine house has an air of pantomime about it. Really over the top. And the thing that makes the least sense would be for the DPD to take the rods on the 23rd then pretend they had been found elsewhere over a week earlier.

Agreed on all counts!

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But a lot of things don't make sense:
Why the change of sign-out date?

My working hypothesis is that there were two sets of curtain rods, one set found in the Depository, the other taken from the Paine garage. The latter set were tested on 11/25-----------



The original document (with release date 3/24) was not made public (and only came to light in the 1990s!)

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If the rods were discovered elsewhere why go to the trouble of putting them back in the Paine house then do the "pantomime of discovery"?

Again, they weren't put back for Ms Paine's in situ deposition (the release date of 3/24 is too late for that). The rods found at the Depository (which were marked with the digits 275 & 276) were 'disappeared' into the rods taken from the Paine garage (which--------in a blatant contrivance--------were 'marked' as Exhibits 275 & 276). Those numbers are a real giveaway.

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If they were first discovered in the Paine house, why pretend they were discovered earlier?

Again, I believe we are dealing two different sets of rods.
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #199 on: February 02, 2021, 09:28:47 PM »
What I find the most interesting, however, is the apparent closing of the gap between Day's signature and the word "Oswald". That gap is not the result of simply photocopying the document, but rather a sophisticated modification of the document that went beyond whiting out and changing the date.

I thought that too until Mr Colin Crow offered a smart explanation: the placement of the carbon paper underneath the original was not perfect

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #199 on: February 02, 2021, 09:28:47 PM »