Then went inside with the curtain rods

[Dan O'meara]

Wow.  I couldn't conjure up a better example of the application of the impossible standard of proof to suggest false doubt than this one.  It is a real keeper.  Klein's received an order for a rifle from someone using an alias associated with Oswald.  The form also references a PO Box that belongs to Oswald.  Handwriting experts confirm that Oswald filled this form in.  Klein's processed payment for this rifle and documented that it had a specific serial number.  The same serial number that is on the rifle found at the TSBD.  Oswald's place of employment.  There are photos of Oswald holding his rifle.  See any theme?  And you are suggesting there is doubt because the specific person who shipped the rifle wasn't asked to testify?  A person whose job it would be to ship rifles all day long.  Instead Klein's relied upon its own documentation to support the fact.  It's incredible rabbit hole nonsense to suggest there is doubt because the documents were used.  Imagine that legal standard in any criminal investigation.  It would be deemed insufficient to link a suspect to a firearm based on documentation that they bought the weapon.  Instead we need the person who sold it to them to remember months or years later what happened or there would be "doubt." HA HA HA.  There is no doubt that Klein's sent this rifle to Oswald's PO Box.  None.   

Mr. BELIN. Mr. Waldman, you have just put the microfilm which we call D-77 into your viewer which is marked a Microfilm Reader-Printer, and you have identified this as No. 270502, according to your records. Is this just a record number of yours on this particular shipment?
Mr. WALDMAN. That's a number which we assign for identification purposes.
Mr. BELIN. And on the microfilm record, would you please state who it shows this particular rifle was shipped
Mr. WALDMAN. Shipped to a Mr. A.--last name H-i-d-e-l-l, Post Office Box 2915, Dallas, Tex.
Mr. BELIN. And does it show arts' serial number or control number?
Mr. WALDMAN. It shows shipment of a rifle bearing our control number VC-836 and serial number C-2766.

A perfect example of what I was talking about  - many threads of evidence woven together into a seamless narrative.
The counter-narrative being - all the evidence was faked and all the witnesses manipulated.

Put those two narratives before a jury and see what happens.

To abuse a Frank Zappa quote - I'm not a LNer but there's a whole lotta times I wish I could say I'm not a CTer

[Martin Weidmann]

A perfect example of what I was talking about  - many threads of evidence woven together into a seamless narrative.
The counter-narrative being - all the evidence was faked and all the witnesses manipulated.

Put those two narratives before a jury and see what happens.

To abuse a Frank Zappa quote - I'm not a LNer but there's a whole lotta times I wish I could say I'm not a CTer

You are looking at the house. Try looking at the foundations!

[Dan O'meara]

Just because Frazier is out by his estimation of its length by a few inches doesn't mean anything as he's not really paying attention to it.

Pay attention Mr O....  Not only did Mr Frazier and his sister swear that the paper sack that Lee carried was no longer than 28 inches.... Mr Frazier has always maintained that the sack that he saw on the seat of his 53 Chevy, was constructed from LIGHT WEIGHT "FLIMSY" brown paper ...  The bag in evidence is constructed from HEAVY WEIGHT paper.

You've missed the point of the post Walt...
...but if I was a LNer I'd say the following:

" Mr Frazier and his sister swear that the paper sack that Lee carried was no longer than 28 inches."


What did they measure it with?
Was it just a guess?

"Mr Frazier has always maintained that the sack that he saw on the seat of his 53 Chevy, was constructed from LIGHT WEIGHT "FLIMSY" brown paper ...  The bag in evidence is constructed from HEAVY WEIGHT paper."

Then how do you explain this quote:

Mr. BALL - The paper, was the color of the paper, that you would get in a grocery store, is that it, a bag in a grocery store?
Mr. FRAZIER - Right. You have seen, not a real light color but you know normally, the normal color about the same color, you have seen these kinds of heavy duty bags you know like you obtain from the grocery store, something like that, about the same color of that, paper sack you get there.

And round and round we would go.

[Martin Weidmann]

A perfect example of what I was talking about  - many threads of evidence woven together into a seamless narrative.
The counter-narrative being - all the evidence was faked and all the witnesses manipulated.

Put those two narratives before a jury and see what happens.

To abuse a Frank Zappa quote - I'm not a LNer but there's a whole lotta times I wish I could say I'm not a CTer

A perfect example of what I was talking about  - many threads of evidence woven together into a seamless narrative.

A "seamless narrative" full of assumptions, speculation and witnesses being ignored and/or called "mistaken".

The counter-narrative being - all the evidence was faked and all the witnesses manipulated.

That's not the real counter-narrative. It's what the LNs claim the counter-narrative is. But maybe some people do not understand the difference between faked evidence and manipulated evidence....

[Walt Cakebread]

Ah, but witness after witness said the sixth floor shooter was wearing either a reddish shirt or a white (or white-ish) t-shirt with a collar. You can't seriously be suggesting that the uncanny match here with Mr Oswald's attire is a coincidence? Come on...........

witness after witness said the sixth floor shooter was wearing either a reddish shirt or a white (or white-ish) t-shirt with a collar.

OK Mr F....Present a single witness who described the sixth floor man's shirt as being "reddish"  Just One...

[Alan Ford]

witness after witness said the sixth floor shooter was wearing either a reddish shirt or a white (or white-ish) t-shirt with a collar.

OK Mr F....Present a single witness who described the sixth floor man's shirt as being "reddish"  Just One...

Good grief!

[Martin Weidmann]

Good grief!

What kind of a name is that?   

[Walt Cakebread]

What kind of a name is that?   

Good Grief---- is what is experienced when an uncle who was a pervert, who molested children,  passes away