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Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #648 on: March 09, 2021, 12:06:36 AM »
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Frazier was obviously a person of interest given his association to Oswald. I am trying to show that the official story timeline is inconsistent. There are hours missing from Frazier leaving the TSBD and his apprehension at the Irving hospital. The police knew Frazier had given him the ride to work....likely by 2 or so. Fritz told Senkel to round up everyone who had been on the sixth floor that day and take them to HQ for questioning. This was around the time the rifle was found and Truly told Fritz about Oswald missing. Frazier was likely already gone as he would have been included in the sixth floor roundup.

Assuming Frazier left the TSBD before the round-up of those who'd been on the 6th floor (say around 1:30 pm), it is safe to say he'd gone before the long bag was "discovered".

His sister, Linnie Mae, was telling Adamcik about Oswald's long bag around 5pm, just three and a half hours later.

Is this just some bizarre coincidence?
 

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #649 on: March 09, 2021, 12:23:51 AM »
Nice bit of speculation. How long will it be before you start calling it a "fact"?

That's right.  There are no "facts" in the contrarian world.  Only endless possibilities.  Maybe all the evidence was planted.  Maybe everyone lied.  Maybe Oswald was just a good ole boy shuffling from one disaster to another like Mr. Magoo.  Maybe.  It's possible.

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #650 on: March 09, 2021, 12:25:00 AM »
Assuming Frazier left the TSBD before the round-up of those who'd been on the 6th floor (say around 1:30 pm), it is safe to say he'd gone before the long bag was "discovered".

His sister, Linnie Mae, was telling Adamcik about Oswald's long bag around 5pm, just three and a half hours later.

Is this just some bizarre coincidence?

Dan, nail and head my friend. Who told who about a bag first?

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #650 on: March 09, 2021, 12:25:00 AM »


Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #651 on: March 09, 2021, 12:30:27 AM »
Frazier would understandably want to distance himself from any suggestion that he was involved or should have exercised better awareness based upon Oswald's varying from his normal visit schedule and carrying a long, narrow bag to work on the day the president was passing the building.  It would not have taken Nostradamus to find that somewhat suspicious.  Maybe worth mentioning to someone that morning.  So it does not defy imagination that he consulted with his much brighter sister to get his story straight after the fact when it began to dawn on him that he was in a precarious situation.  Both legally and from a public opinion perspective.

And so his story is that he didn't pay much attention to Oswald's bag that morning or discuss the President's visit (the top news story of the day) and they heard nothing about it on the radio.   Maybe the bag becomes shorter than it actually was etc.  Just a couple of good ole boys driving to work in silence.  How was he to know anything was afoot?  It's interesting that Frazier once said that he heard the name Lee Harvey Oswald on the radio on this way to the hospital in connection with the assassin but claimed he wasn't sure it was the "Lee" he had driven to work because he didn't know his last name prior to the assassination.  I think Frazier was scared and played dumb.  Which wasn't difficult for him.  He probably felt guilty for his inadvertent role in the assassination.  He not only drove Oswald to work but is also indirectly responsible for him getting a job at the TSBD.  I'm sure he would rather be remembered as the person who drove the "alleged" assassin of JFK rather than the certain assassin.

Frazier would understandably want to distance himself from any suggestion that he was involved or should have exercised better awareness based upon Oswald's varying from his normal visit schedule and carrying a long, narrow bag to work on the day the president was passing the building.  It would not have taken Nostradamus to find that somewhat suspicious. 

 :D :D :D...   Good one, Mr "Smith".......   Have you ever considered doing stand up comedy?

Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #652 on: March 09, 2021, 01:16:19 AM »
That's right.  There are no "facts" in the contrarian world.  Only endless possibilities.  Maybe all the evidence was planted.  Maybe everyone lied.  Maybe Oswald was just a good ole boy shuffling from one disaster to another like Mr. Magoo.  Maybe.  It's possible.

What is also possible is that you consider all your speculation, assumptions and whatever other nonsense you believe to be a "fact" and call anybody who does not agree with you a contrarian.

Just because you say so.... HAHAHAHAHAHA

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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #653 on: March 09, 2021, 01:38:47 AM »
Frazier would understandably want to distance himself from any suggestion that he was involved or should have exercised better awareness based upon Oswald's varying from his normal visit schedule and carrying a long, narrow bag to work on the day the president was passing the building.  It would not have taken Nostradamus to find that somewhat suspicious. 

 :D :D :D...   Good one, Mr "Smith".......   Have you ever considered doing stand up comedy?

You don't believe Frazier would want to distance himself from the assassination of the President but would want to be implicated in that crime?  Do tell. 

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #654 on: March 09, 2021, 02:06:52 AM »
Oswald was shoving it their faces, I heard... saying stuff like 'you figure it out', wasn't he? That could be expected whether he was innocent or not, though.

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #655 on: March 09, 2021, 02:12:28 AM »
You don't believe Frazier would want to distance himself from the assassination of the President but would want to be implicated in that crime?  Do tell.

The HSCA tape reveals what one would expect. He did not go to the hospital first. He went home. Likely his sister was at the hospital and he went there to work out what to do given his predicament. Did the cops go to the Randle's looking for him and talk to the mother? We have known for some time his story about the hospital visit was baloney. If his version was correct how did LMR know he was there to tell the cops. There was obvious interaction between the family members prior to his arrest at the hospital. There was interaction between family members and police as well.

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #655 on: March 09, 2021, 02:12:28 AM »