How the CIA would have got rid of JFK (if they wanted to)

[Walt Cakebread]

You’ve nailed it. A lot of Americans are just in denial about the dark side of our national security state.

You're so right, Mr Banks.....  And what's even more alarming is many American's are such suckers for the lying puppet masters who are pulling their strings.    I believe our nation is like the titanic....Many Americans think that we are perfect and unsinkable, But there's an iceberg looming ......

[Joe Elliott]

So sad when you find it hard to believe your nation is above such skullduggery. I almost have some sympathy for you, because you've, no doubt, been brainwashed to believe you come from an 'exceptional' nation. A place where removing leaders is only for the third world & not on your doorstep.

Even though the CIA/Industrial complex forcefully removed/assassinated many leaders of sovereign nations that didn't suit their plans. You are unable to accept the sad reality that the chaos your nation has inflicted upon other nations for many years was brought home to roost. Just keep saying it never happened.

Other nations control the United States. Like, as when other nations got control of Dominion Systems to control the 2020 election, as Steve Galbraith alluded to?

True skeptics are always going to be skeptical of Large-Secret-Enduring Conspiracy Theories. Even when these theories are clothed in the argument that their claims are merely accepting the obvious truth. So, no I don’t accept that an outside power got control of the Secret Service, of the FBI, of the Dallas Police, and others, so that they can murder and get away with the murder of the President of the United States. So, they can force the Vietnam war to occur. And control the U. S. to this day. The same rational philosophy can steer one clear of such false beliefs, whether it is the government killing President Kennedy or the U. S. Election of 2020 being controlled by some sort of Deep State.

Gerry Down is correct. The claim that Kennedy was assassinated by the CIA is not only unbelievable on the surface. It would be strange that they would choose such a route when an obvious alternative is available. Destroy Kennedy’s political career by simply revealing the truth of his many affairs. They don’t even have to manufacture a fake case for these affairs.

[Walt Cakebread]

Other nations control the United States. Like, as when other nations got control of Dominion Systems to control the 2020 election, as Steve Galbraith alluded to?

True skeptics are always going to be skeptical of Large-Secret-Enduring Conspiracy Theories. Even when these theories are clothed in the argument that their claims are merely accepting the obvious truth. So, no I don’t accept that an outside power got control of the Secret Service, of the FBI, of the Dallas Police, and others, so that they can murder and get away with the murder of the President of the United States. So, they can force the Vietnam war to occur. And control the U. S. to this day. The same rational philosophy can steer one clear of such false beliefs, whether it is the government killing President Kennedy or the U. S. Election of 2020 being controlled by some sort of Deep State.


"THE" CIA did not assassinate JFK....   But MEN who were affiliated with the CIA DID assassinate JFK.

Gerry Down is correct. The claim that Kennedy was assassinated by the CIA is not only unbelievable on the surface. It would be strange that they would choose such a route when an obvious alternative is available. Destroy Kennedy’s political career by simply revealing the truth of his many affairs. They don’t even have to manufacture a fake case for these affairs.

[Jon Banks]

Gerry Down is correct. The claim that Kennedy was assassinated by the CIA is not only unbelievable on the surface. It would be strange that they would choose such a route when an obvious alternative is available. Destroy Kennedy’s political career by simply revealing the truth of his many affairs. They don’t even have to manufacture a fake case for these affairs.

How common were political sex scandals in the early 1960s? It's well known that several US Presidents cheated on their spouses while in office. Lots of people knew but the Press rarely made a big deal about digging into the personal lives of politicians until the 1980s. The Gary Hart thing in the 1980s was arguably the first major political sex scandal. 

Given how differently the Press behaved in the 1960s, why is it assumed that the Press would've played along with the CIA's attempts to politically assassinate Kennedy by using his infidelity against him?

Plausible Deniability is a key part of Covert Ops. No Intelligence conspiracy would do something targeting a Head of State that could easily be traced back to them.

[Walt Cakebread]

How common were political sex scandals in the early 1960s? It's well known that several US Presidents cheated on their spouses while in office. Lots of people knew but the Press rarely made a big deal about digging into the personal lives of politicians until the 1980s. The Gary Hart thing in the 1980s was arguably the first major political sex scandal. 

Given how differently the Press behaved in the 1960s, why is it assumed that the Press would've played along with the CIA's attempts to politically assassinate Kennedy by using his infidelity against him?

 why is it assumed that the Press would've played along with the CIA's attempts to politically assassinate Kennedy by using his infidelity against him?

Many main stream reporters and journalists were (and are)  on the CIA payroll...... But trying to remove JFK by using his sex capades against him, most certainly was no guarantee  that the very popular president would be defeated by Goldwater.

And J Edgar Hoover most certainly did not want Goldwater in the Whitehouse......  The only way to achieve their goal was the ballot of the bullet....

[Jon Banks]

why is it assumed that the Press would've played along with the CIA's attempts to politically assassinate Kennedy by using his infidelity against him?

Many main stream reporters and journalists were (and are)  on the CIA payroll...... But trying to remove JFK by using his sex capades against him, most certainly was no guarantee  that the very popular president would be defeated by Goldwater.

And J Edgar Hoover most certainly did not want Goldwater in the Whitehouse......  The only way to achieve their goal was the ballot of the bullet....

Most of the political blackmail in those days targeted homosexuals (even J Edgar Hoover).

I understand that Sen. Joe McCarthy had some issues in his personal life (alcoholism, womanizing) but those stories only came up when he turned everyone in DC against him. In contrast, the DC Press loved JFK and didn't report on his infidelity. 

"The only way I can lose this election is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy" - Edwin Edwards

[Joe Elliott]

How common were political sex scandals in the early 1960s? It's well known that several US Presidents cheated on their spouses while in office. Lots of people knew but the Press rarely made a big deal about digging into the personal lives of politicians until the 1980s. The Gary Hart thing in the 1980s was arguably the first major political sex scandal. 

Hardly. I don’t know a lot about U. S. History but there was a scandal in the 1880’s about Grover Cleveland fathering an illegitimate child. Even though this happened many years before and long before he became married, it was still a scandal. Republicans used to chant "Ha, ha. Where's your pa?”. After Cleveland won election despite this, Democrats answered with: "Ha, ha. Where's your pa? In the White House. Ha, ha, ha.”

Also, Thomas Jefferson being the father of illegitimate children, with a slave woman as the mother, was a scandal, although one that was never accepted by the population at large at the time.

These sorts of scandals have always been an issue and could have been used in the 1960’s.

Given how differently the Press behaved in the 1960s, why is it assumed that the Press would've played along with the CIA's attempts to politically assassinate Kennedy by using his infidelity against him?

Don’t some CTers claim that some of the press is controlled by the CIA? Wasn’t James Phelan supposedly working for the CIA, even though he appeared to be a legitimate reporter?



And you don’t answer my main point. If I accept a Large-Secret-Enduring Conspiracy theory like the JFK assassination theory, why shouldn’t I accept others? If I go that far, why not believe that many programmers, volunteer election workers and Republican politicians like governors and secretary of state were all involved in stealing the 2020 election from Trump?

[Jerry Freeman]

These sorts of scandals have always been an issue and could have been used in the 1960’s.

What about the scandals of today? Hunter Biden's escapades.....swept under the rug.
Eric Swalwell and Miss Fang Fang? Etc.

Don’t some CTers claim that some of the press is controlled by the CIA? 

I don't know about the CIA but the lame slime main stream media is controlled by something.