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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #168 on: February 25, 2021, 08:38:33 PM »
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Yeah, talk about a circular argument.  The shirt he was arrested in had similar fibers as ones we found in the rifle, therefore Oswald must have been wearing that shirt!

John, You've been dealing with Chapman too much..... That's exactly what our little chappie would say.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #169 on: February 25, 2021, 09:57:12 PM »
John, You've been dealing with Chapman too much..... That's exactly what our little chappie would say.

No, Chapman wouldn't even know there was a shirt or that there was fiber analysis done.  But he would get everybody's name wrong and then post some "clever" movie clip.

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« Reply #170 on: February 25, 2021, 10:29:57 PM »
I believe those "fibers" were later changed to blanket fibers....[for some reason] ::)

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Offline Rick Plant

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« Reply #171 on: February 25, 2021, 11:05:21 PM »
Right...after they tore a hole in the right elbow----

No hole after arrest----


Notice hole in right sleeve presented to Bledsoe and to the Warren Commission----


Mr. BELIN - I hand you Exhibit No. 150. Have you ever seen a shirt like this before? Does this look familiar to the shirt that the suspect might have been wearing when you saw him, or this man running toward the station wagon?
Mr. CRAIG - It's the same type of shirt.
Mr. BELIN - I believe you used the phrase, "light shirt". Would Exhibit 150 be darker than the shirt he was wearing?
Mr. CRAIG - Uh--it looks darker in here--yes, uh-huh.

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Re: LHO's shirt
« Reply #172 on: February 26, 2021, 05:37:01 PM »
Thanks for that Walt,

In the WC testimonies, the witnesses who claim to have met LHO immediately after his departure from the TSBD are the bus driver, the bus passenger and the taxi driver.

The bus driver was unable to provide a description of how LHO was dressed but the latter two make inconsistent claims regarding his clothing.

Both mention a brown shirt and grey pants though Whaley then muddies the water by describing a blue grey jacket, whereas Blesdoe makes no mention of a jacket as she describes the shirt with the right sleeve whole and no buttons.

Both claim that the shirt LHO wore when arrested is the same shirt he wore on the bus and in the taxi, Whaley positively identifies Exhibit 150 and Blesdoe seems to be describing the shirt after LHO had been arrested in TT and the buttons were torn off in the struggle between him and DPD).

It strikes me that it should not have been difficult for law enforcement to determine what clothes LHO was wearing on that morning as his fellow workers would have been able to provide enough details to enable law enforcement to determine what they should be looking for. Was it possible that these clothes when found could be subject to forensic investigation to determine if they had been in worn by someone who had recently used a firearm? 

Did the dirty clothes found by DPD Detective Potts undergo any forensic examination?  If they did what was the results? If they did not, then why not?

Blesdoe seems to be describing the shirt after LHO had been arrested in TT and the buttons were torn off in the struggle between him and DPD).

   The arrest shirt is the shirt that Bledsoe saw and it is the shirt she remembered , because the FBI brought that shirt out to her house and showed it to her.....    They were desperate to establish that Lee was wearing that arrest shirt at the TSBD and when he left the TSBD and boarded the bus.     They had already announced publicly that they had found a tuft of fibers from that arrest shirt on the butt of the TSBD carcano .    They had skewered themselves with their own lance ....and they were desperate.

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Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #173 on: February 27, 2021, 04:23:04 PM »
Ya Know,  Chappie is a little like a pesky mosquito ....So we can know that sooner or later the annoying little pest will get his ass slapped.

Get his ass slapped
LOL. Sorry, not on my bucket list, darling. Maybe try Grinder.

Offline Richard Smith

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« Reply #174 on: February 28, 2021, 07:42:30 PM »
Blesdoe seems to be describing the shirt after LHO had been arrested in TT and the buttons were torn off in the struggle between him and DPD).

   The arrest shirt is the shirt that Bledsoe saw and it is the shirt she remembered , because the FBI brought that shirt out to her house and showed it to her.....    They were desperate to establish that Lee was wearing that arrest shirt at the TSBD and when he left the TSBD and boarded the bus.     They had already announced publicly that they had found a tuft of fibers from that arrest shirt on the butt of the TSBD carcano .    They had skewered themselves with their own lance ....and they were desperate.

That is a ludicrous narrative.  Why would the FBI go to these lengths to link Oswald to the shirt when the best they could with that evidence is say it could have come from his shirt?  No one needed to connect Oswald to this shirt on the day of the assassination to convict him for that crime.  They had his rifle at the crime scene along with fired bullet casings.  His goose was cooked.  Combined with his flight, involvement in another murder, resisting arrest, and lie about not owning a rifle there was more than sufficient evidence to convict.  Your baseless fantasy with the shirt is unnecessary and ridiculous to convict.   And the fibers could always have gotten on the rifle from some contact with the shirt on a prior occasion.  Not necessarily on the day of the assassination.  It doesn't have to mean he was wearing the shirt that day.  It just adds another link between Oswald and this rifle.  The evidence links him to the rifle with or without the fiber evidence.  And that rifle was used to commit the crime.  But perhaps that is more than you can absorb.

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« Reply #175 on: February 28, 2021, 07:59:50 PM »
That is a ludicrous narrative.  Why would the FBI go to these lengths to link Oswald to the shirt when the best they could with that evidence is say it could have come from his shirt?  No one needed to connect Oswald to this shirt on the day of the assassination to convict him for that crime.  They had his rifle at the crime scene along with fired bullet casings.  His goose was cooked.  Combined with his flight, involvement in another murder, resisting arrest, and lie about not owning a rifle there was more than sufficient evidence to convict.

Speaking of ludicrous narratives...

You have done zero to demonstrate that any of these speculative claims are actually true: “his rifle”, “his flight”, “involvement in another murder”, resisting arrest”, “lie about not owning a rifle”.

Garbage in - garbage out.
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Re: LHO's shirt
« Reply #175 on: February 28, 2021, 07:59:50 PM »