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Offline Marjan Rynkiewicz

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Re: Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?
« Reply #136 on: November 21, 2023, 12:45:58 AM »
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Powers and O'Donnell both remembered seeing Clint Hill climb onto the limo and Jackie jump onto the trunk lid. they also saw the limo accelerate immediately after this. They never claimed to have been "leaning low" or hitting the floorboard at any point as far as I've ever been able to find.

One thing that people don't realize is the force of the muzzle blast, especially from a rifle. It's very noticeable if you're not directly behind the muzzle. The guys in the front seat most definitely would have felt a rifle going off in the back seat.
The muzzle of the AR15 was ahead of Powers & O'Donnell. Just behind & to the right of the right ear of driver Kinney.

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Re: Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?
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Re: Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?
« Reply #137 on: November 21, 2023, 12:53:07 AM »
       SPECIFICALLY, what makes you believe the "headshot was the last shot"?
       Your adjusting the "falling backwards" to fit your Theory is indicative of a Work-In-Progress. Get back to the drawing board and let me know when you get everything lined out.
The Bronson footage shows Hickey sitting back in his usual pozzy hi up on the 2 leather cases on the backseat soon after Z312, hence the headshot could not be the first shot of the autoburst.
My Hickey theory is now perfect.
The last piece of the puzzle was when i realized that the shot that made the dent in the chrome trim passed under the divider/rollbar.
Up untill then i had the problem that the AR15 had to be high up to shoot over the divider/rollbar.

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Re: Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?
« Reply #138 on: November 21, 2023, 01:03:31 AM »
The Bronson footage shows Hickey sitting back in his usual pozzy hi up on the 2 leather cases on the backseat soon after Z312, hence the headshot could not be the first shot of the autoburst.
My Hickey theory is now perfect.
The last piece of the puzzle was when i realized that the shot that made the dent in the chrome trim passed under the divider/rollbar.
Up untill then i had the problem that the AR15 had to be high up to shoot over the divider/rollbar.

   You're ASSUMING the head shot was from the AR-15. You have no proof of this.
    Have you stood SA Hickey up in the rear of the Limo and figured out the level the AR-15 would have to be at for a shot to pass UNDER the divider? These SS Agents are not pee-wees. You stand Hickey up inside the Limo and that rifle would have to be held LOW. Very Low to fire a shot UNDER the divider.
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Re: Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?
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Re: Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?
« Reply #139 on: November 21, 2023, 01:42:59 AM »
Hard evidence is physical evidence.
Witness statements are not hard evidence. Some are more credible than others.
Mortal Error (Donahue & Menninger)($30) & JFK The Smoking Gun (McLaren)($30) have a good analysis of witnesses re Hickey & re the AR15.
One bit of hard contra-evidence can falsify my theory.
A picture, a footage, a dent in the chrome, an exploding head, the smell of gunpowder etc etc --- hard evidence.

Provide a single piece of hard evidence that an invisible unicorn didn't take the head shot.
The fact of the matter is you can't.

You're whole theory is built on the fact that there was no picture taken that can refute it.
And that's all there is to it.
Of course you can't provide a sensible/rational/credible explanation for why nobody in the follow-up car saw or heard the AR-15 firing.
The sensible/rational/credible explanation is that no such shots were taken.
Of course you can't provide a sensible/rational/credible explanation for why over 20 witnesses on either side of the limo at the time of the head shot never saw or heard the AR-15 firing.
The sensible/rational/credible explanation is that no such shots were fired.

Remember this - you cannot provide hard evidence that an invisible unicorn didn't take the head shot.
That's the level you are working at. That's how credible your theory is.
Your theory suffers from a complete absence of Common Sense.

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Re: Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?
« Reply #140 on: November 21, 2023, 01:45:37 AM »
The muzzle of the AR15 was ahead of Powers & O'Donnell. Just behind & to the right of the right ear of driver Kinney.

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Then how come Powers and O' Donnell don't mention it?

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Re: Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?
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Re: Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?
« Reply #141 on: November 21, 2023, 01:50:52 AM »
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Then how come Powers and O' Donnell don't mention it?

    They FAIL to mention the SIREN Too! Politicos frequently go deaf, dumb, and blind when things get dicey. They talk a good game, but when it comes time to pony up, they are MIA.

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Re: Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?
« Reply #142 on: November 21, 2023, 02:13:35 AM »
   You're ASSUMING the head shot was from the AR-15. You have no proof of this.
    Have you stood SA Hickey up in the rear of the Limo and figured out the level the AR-15 would have to be at for a shot to pass UNDER the divider? These SS Agents are not pee-wees. You stand Hickey up inside the Limo and that rifle would have to be held LOW. Very Low to fire a shot UNDER the divider.
U should read the earlier bits of this thread, re the height of the AR15 (& divider).


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Re: Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?
« Reply #142 on: November 21, 2023, 02:13:35 AM »


Offline Marjan Rynkiewicz

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Re: Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?
« Reply #143 on: November 21, 2023, 02:18:10 AM »
Provide a single piece of hard evidence that an invisible unicorn didn't take the head shot.
The fact of the matter is you can't.

You're whole theory is built on the fact that there was no picture taken that can refute it.
And that's all there is to it.
Of course you can't provide a sensible/rational/credible explanation for why nobody in the follow-up car saw or heard the AR-15 firing.
The sensible/rational/credible explanation is that no such shots were taken.
Of course you can't provide a sensible/rational/credible explanation for why over 20 witnesses on either side of the limo at the time of the head shot never saw or heard the AR-15 firing.
The sensible/rational/credible explanation is that no such shots were fired.

Remember this - you cannot provide hard evidence that an invisible unicorn didn't take the head shot.
That's the level you are working at. That's how credible your theory is.
Your theory suffers from a complete absence of Common Sense.
The hard evidence is the headshot. And cracked windshield. And the dent in chrome trim. And Tague's wound. And Bronson's footage (showing Hickey rise up, & falling). And Bell's footage (showing Hickey holding AR15 all the way to the tup). Smell of gunpowder in Elm & on Stemmons & at Parkland. And AR15 taken out of service in less than a day, & no AR15 has been used by SS since (they use tommy guns only).