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Offline Andrew Mason

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Re: Oswald's shot-1 was at Z113.
« Reply #88 on: September 03, 2021, 07:26:01 PM »
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I know we look at things differently but some of your graphics are off the charts - this is one of them.
There could hardly be a more clear demonstration of the fallacy of Andrew's position.
You are comparing a photo of a twisted turned torso with shoulders skewed to a photo of him standing upright.  Here is a better comparison:


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Re: Oswald's shot-1 was at Z113.
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Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Oswald's shot-1 was at Z113.
« Reply #89 on: September 03, 2021, 09:12:39 PM »
You are comparing a photo of a twisted turned torso with shoulders skewed to a photo of him standing upright.  Here is a better comparison:



I'm not getting any of the images you are posting.
I don't know if it's just me.
Photoimage seems to be the best way to upload images (IMO)

LATER EDIT:

Not Photoimage
Postimages (https://postimages.org/)
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Online Marjan Rynkiewicz

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Re: Oswald's shot-1 was at Z113.
« Reply #90 on: September 03, 2021, 11:47:12 PM »
Could be just a temporary sharing or permissions issue. Or your might have to add "http://dufourlaw.com" in the setting for "Exceptions" (if there is such a setting) of your browser and virus checker. The "http" might be the problem; it lacks the "s" for a secure site. Images were off for me for awhile yesterday but today is fine. So the "s" may not be the problem.

Eventually it works. Mason would email images to you if you were to PM (Personal Message) him here at the Forum. But then he might be off the Forum and not know about your message.

Mason posts every thing using his law firm's site in Saskatchewan. His documents describing his Pet Theory are also posted from there, in PDF form..

Andrew would need an image-hoster that's free, allows direct-linking to the image, has unlimited transfers and supports animated GIFs.
I use postimage for pix & pdf & gif.

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Re: Oswald's shot-1 was at Z113.
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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Oswald's shot-1 was at Z113.
« Reply #91 on: September 04, 2021, 01:34:27 AM »


 :D :D :D

That's so funny, the kid can't fit a square peg into a round hole so just cheats, an excellent analogy of CT thinking.

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Re: Oswald's shot-1 was at Z113.
« Reply #92 on: September 04, 2021, 07:28:42 PM »
But nothing wrong with you using a medical illustration of a person not twisted and who's standing upright.
??The point about using the medical illustration is to show the location on the body.  When you compare it the the twisted and leaning torso of JBC you have to allow for changes such as a dropped right shoulder. I have shown how it is certainly not impossible for the bullet exiting the chest at the level of the 5th rib as JBC is positioned in z268 to have struck him in the wrist where it did.

So Dan's response to the abundant evidence that tells us a shot around z271 striking JBC occurred, which was that it is impossible for the bullet exiting the chest to strike the wrist where it did, is not correct. So we are left with all that evidence that tells us the second shot occurred there.

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Re: Oswald's shot-1 was at Z113.
« Reply #93 on: September 04, 2021, 07:42:25 PM »
:D :D :D

That's so funny, the kid can't fit a square peg into a round hole so just cheats, an excellent analogy of CT thinking.

JohnM
Yeah. I agree.  But it is also like the SBT cheats about
1. the trajectory through JFK's neck to JBC's right armpit working
2. that the jagged tears on the french cuff, the jagged edges of the chest exit and wrist entrance wounds are consistent with CE399
3. ignoring the fact that the bullet through JBC's back made a round tunneling path
4. Ignoring the problems with a bullet exiting JBC's chest striking the right wrist changing direction and then striking the left thigh on an oblique angle in the direction of the femur at z225.
5. Ignoring Nellie Connally and all the others who said that JFK reacted to the first shot
6. Ignoring the 1... ....2....3 shot pattern
Etc.
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Re: Oswald's shot-1 was at Z113.
« Reply #94 on: September 05, 2021, 04:30:04 AM »


Mason's
"Confirmation Bias"
Alignment
 


Non-Bias Alignment
(Top of sternum at base of necktie knot)
Are you serious, Jerry? You have the right shoulder 4 inches below the shoulder in the zfilm! Do you really think that the red square is where his right nipple is?
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Connally is basically presenting most of his front chest area to Zapruder.
More or less.  But his shoulders are turned almost 90 degrees to the car direction.  His hips are still likely not turned more than 20 degrees. So the torso from hips to shoulders ranges from 20 to 90 degrees to the car direction.

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His left torso and left shoulder are closer in space to Zapruder than the right side.
. The difference is miniscule.  It is made even less because of the telephoto zoom lens..
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Re: Oswald's shot-1 was at Z113.
« Reply #95 on: September 05, 2021, 07:04:14 AM »
The sternum is less mobile than the shoulders. And it's the chest and ribs we're most concerned with.

Leaving the sternum match in place, one could tilt the medical illustration a little to raise Connally's left shoulder, but it would not improve the elevation of the right nipple.

Maybe try it in 3D. The medical illustration is 2D and won't match up fully with a life image taken at an oblique angle.
You can't be serious! And you accuse me of confirmation bias!

How can you say you are matching the sternum location when the part where the neck connects to the shoulder is at least 4 inches higher in the zframe?

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« Reply #95 on: September 05, 2021, 07:04:14 AM »