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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #256 on: April 14, 2021, 04:57:09 PM »
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My guess is the latter. He went up to the sixth to investigate. Then came down to the first.

My personal view is that Dougherty was not on the 5th floor just before the shooting.
Norman and Jarman walk from the north-west corner of the 5th to the south-east corner and do not see Dougherty.
Wiliams walks from the north-west corner to the south-east corner and does not see Dougherty.
All three men run from the east side of the building to the west and do not see Dougherty.
Dougherty must be on the 6th before Norman and Jarman arrive.
Dougherty must be on the 6th while Williams is still up there.
For me, Dougherty is the number one candidate for Rowalnd's man with a rifle on the 6th floor around 12:15

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #257 on: April 14, 2021, 04:58:32 PM »
Yes, if they had only fixated more on chicken sandwiches and measuring Oswald's arm pits we would know the truth.  What does "disassembled" mean in this context?  It appears to relate only to the rifle's length to fit the bag.  Could that be done just by removing the barrel etc?

Why disassemble the rifle?

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #258 on: April 14, 2021, 05:27:38 PM »
My personal view is that Dougherty was not on the 5th floor just before the shooting.
Norman and Jarman walk from the north-west corner of the 5th to the south-east corner and do not see Dougherty.
Wiliams walks from the north-west corner to the south-east corner and does not see Dougherty.
All three men run from the east side of the building to the west and do not see Dougherty.
Dougherty must be on the 6th before Norman and Jarman arrive.
Dougherty must be on the 6th while Williams is still up there.
For me, Dougherty is the number one candidate for Rowalnd's man with a rifle on the 6th floor around 12:15

Dougherty takes the west elevator to the sixth after Jarman and Norman take it to the fifth. They closed the gates allowing it to be called by Dougherty. He did not close the gates as he presumably was collecting books on the sixth then the fifth. Truly was unable to call the west elevator because Dougherty left the gates open.

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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #259 on: April 14, 2021, 05:29:23 PM »
Yes, if they had only fixated more on chicken sandwiches and measuring Oswald's arm pits we would know the truth.  What does "disassembled" mean in this context?  It appears to relate only to the rifle's length to fit the bag.  Could that be done just by removing the barrel etc?

Whose sandwich was it Richard? Where was it originally found? Let’s see you answer those to start.

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #260 on: April 14, 2021, 05:32:03 PM »
Yes, if they had only fixated more on chicken sandwiches and measuring Oswald's arm pits we would know the truth.  What does "disassembled" mean in this context?  It appears to relate only to the rifle's length to fit the bag.  Could that be done just by removing the barrel etc?

Why not try and do some research yourself. Much more satisfying for all of us than mere regurgitation of material of others.

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Online Dan O'meara

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« Reply #261 on: April 14, 2021, 06:14:36 PM »
Dougherty takes the west elevator to the sixth after Jarman and Norman take it to the fifth. They closed the gates allowing it to be called by Dougherty. He did not close the gates as he presumably was collecting books on the sixth then the fifth. Truly was unable to call the west elevator because Dougherty left the gates open.
A possible scenario:

Jarman and Norman take the west elevator to the 5th. They don't see Dougherty because he's still down in the Domino room having his lunch.
Williams hears Norman and Jarman down on the 5th and goes down to join them. He doesn't see Dougherty who is still on the first floor
Dougherty finishes his lunch and calls the west elevator down and takes it to the 6th while Norman, Jarman and Williams are at the south-east corner.
Dougherty finishes what he's doing on the 6th and goes down to the fifth to carry on working.
Shortly after arriving on the fifth he hears a shot coming from the floor above. He is stood near the north-west corner of the 5th floor, Williams and co. are in the south-west corner.
After Truly has seen the elevators on the 5th and before Williams and co. run across the floor Dougherty gets in the west elevator and takes it down to the first.

Problems with this scenario:

Oswald states he is in the Domino room when Norman and Jarman enter the building. He doesn't see Dougherty there and Dougherty doesn't see him.
While Williams is on the 6th, then Dougherty, the assassin has to construct the SN (and assemble the rifle?)
Rowland sees the man with the rifle on the 6th way before Norman and Jarman go up to the 5th meaning he is there at the same time as Williams (and while Oswald is still in the Domino room).
Williams is insistent no-one was up there for the 20+ minutes he was up there.


Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #262 on: April 14, 2021, 06:29:21 PM »
Indeed. It's a typo, as if you didn't understand that...

Ah, the lazy LN exposed!

Too bad that this is only your opinion which you can not explain nor back up with any evidence.

Not my bad that your reading comprehension is no better than pedestrian at best; as shown by your stubborn insistence on treating this discussion platform as a court-of-law. And then claiming you want a serious discussion. And then immediately hurling insults at anyone and everyone who would dare to disagree with you.

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #263 on: April 14, 2021, 07:05:26 PM »
Not my bad that your reading comprehension is no better than pedestrian at best; as shown by your stubborn insistence on treating this discussion platform as a court-of-law. And then claiming you want a serious discussion. And then immediately hurling insults at anyone and everyone who would dare to disagree with you.

And then claiming you want a serious discussion. And then immediately hurling insults at anyone and everyone who would dare to disagree with you.

It's impossible to have a serious discussion with you, so I gave up on that a long time ago.

And then immediately hurling insults at anyone and everyone who would dare to disagree with you.

Project much?
« Last Edit: April 14, 2021, 07:18:21 PM by Martin Weidmann »

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #263 on: April 14, 2021, 07:05:26 PM »