Hoffman couldn't hear, White didn't hear, Murphy heard.

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

Possibly Murphy after he had been called to the TSBD.
I reckon that he looks shaken, koz he saw a bloody JFk, or praps it was koz he had nearly been flattened by a Falcon.

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

I reckon that Hoffman's Falcon passed Officer Murphy as Murphy spun to dash across the overpass.
Its like this.  A close look at the frames shows that the Falcon was going at 3.3 yd/sec for almost all of its 59 yd & 19.0 sec traject, ie from when/where the Falcon appears
until when/where it stops next to the gawker sitting on the western barrier.
The Falcon has to travel 38 yd to get to the conflict point where Murphy crosses, which takes the Falcon 11.5 sec at 3.3 yd/sec.
Meanwhile JFK has to cross the triple underpass which is 40 yd wide, & then go 147 yd to reach Murphy, totaling  187 yd, which at say 35 mph or 17.2 yd/sec takes 10.9 sec.   
And we can add say 1 sec for Murphy to have a half look at Queen Mary approaching him, which makes it 11.9 sec.
So, when Murphy spins round he sees that the Falcon is already passing, & there is no conflict with the Falcon.
Murphy dashes across 24 yd to the western side on an angle to catch a late glimpse of JFK.
The Falcon continues another 21 yd & 7.5 sec before stopping well short of the end of the stationary queue of cars, koz Mr Passenger is yelling to stop.
Mr Passenger jumps out 1 car length before the Falcon has stopped rolling, & he looks north west to see the rear of the JFK limo well up north along the on-ramp.
After passing under Murphy the JFK limo takes 3.5 sec to reach Hoffman's Lookout, which is made up of 25 yd to cross the overpass plus 45 yd to get to the Lookout totaling 70 yd at 41 mph or 20.0 yd/sec.
3.5 sec plus 10.9 sec totals 14.4 sec for the limo to get to Hoffman's Lookout (after we first see Hoffman's Falcon)(ie after the JFK limo is seen entering the triple underpass).
The limo takes another 4.0 sec to go the additional 105 yd to the rail bridge, ie a total of 18.4 sec.
Whilst the Falcon takes 19.0 sec to stop near the gawker sitting on the barrier.
Mr Passenger jumped out over 1 second before the Falcon stopped, ie at 18.0 sec, & Hoffman jumped out say 1 sec after it stopped, ie at 20.0 sec.
Either way the limo had passed the Lookout at 14.4 sec, & Mr Passenger was  3.6 sec too late & Hoffman was 5.6 sec too late.
No, Hoffman aint never saw no hole in JFK's head.
And, also, don’t forget from a previous reply that Z313 was 26 sec before the Falcon stopped,
hence even if Hoffman looked towards the paling fence carpark as soon as he got out
he would nonetheless be too late to see any paling fence sniper playing toss the rifle.
Hoffman would have looked after JFK & Co for a while, before turning his attention to the east.
Hoffman would at best have seen the early stages of the commotion on & around the triple underpass, but not the first say 30 sec.
And then his attention would return to the remnants of the motorcade straggling past.
By then there would be a crowd at the Lookout -- Hoffman, Mr Passenger, the gawker sitting on the barrier, & say 6 gawkers who had joined them from the queues of cars.
And after about 15 minutes the roadblock would be removed & Hoffman would continue to his dentist.  And Hoffman would have a tale to tell.
JFK had been shot, & Hoffman caught a glimpse of the tail of JFK's limo when it was 200 yd north of the rail bridge, ie over 300 yd from Hoffman.

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

Here is the McIntire 2 pix from Robin Unger's gallery. 
How come McIntire 2 isnt of JFK's limo?
Was he too slow winding his camera?
Or was his pix of JFK's limo confiscated?
What might a missing confiscated JFK pix show that was confiscation-worthy?
A cracked windshield?
[edit 25may2022][The jfklimo had passed McIntyre before he had rewound his camera, the jfklimo had moved well over 136 ft since his previous pix when it was 136 ft away from him, but he managed to get this pix of the Queen Mary which was about 70 ft behind the jfklimo, ie 50 ft clear behind, ie there was 50 ft of daylite tween the 2 limo's.]


Agent McIntyre is on the left running board. Different spelling.
There are 8 gawkers. And there are another say 4 gawkers nearer the triple underpass, including Jack Daniel & his grandkids filming.

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

Here is Hoffman's map of his sniper & rifle toss & cabinet.


Here is Bower's view.
As can be seen the cabinets are not exactly where Hoffman reckons.  His cabinet might be No2, near the 3 gawkers.
Why would the tossee walk past cars to get to a cabinet?
Why would a tosser run from one end of the carpark to the other end, & then walk back not far away from where he shot.
Surely the tossee could stand near the tosser & then dismantle the rifle immediately without having to look for some silly cabinet.



Here is Bower's view again. Which cabinet did Hoffman refer to?  All 3 are a long ways away from the site of the toss.
Notice that Bowers would have seen Arnold if Arnold were standing tween the fence & the pergola.
And we know from other photos that Bowers could not possibly see the 3 guys that we know were standing halfway down the steps from the pergola to Elm St.


Bowers had a good view of Murphy & Hoffman on the Stemmons Freeway overpass, if no trains.


Could Bowers see Hickey's AR15 smoke throo the hollow blocks of the pergola?  I reckon not.

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

4:55 Bowers heard 3 shots, & he tapped the table to show the timing.
The first & second were 1 sec apart, & second & third were 1/5th second apart.
I recall that Bowers said somewhere that he saw no shooters, he saw 1 shooter firing, & he saw 2 shooters firing. If he hadnt died in a traffic accident he would surely have reached 3 or 4 shooters firing.

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

Here is a pix of the railroad carparks circa 1966.
The main area ABCDEFG appears to have an entry/exit at 1 (Elm St extn) & 2 (Houston St).
On Friday 22 Nov 1963 the only entry/exit available was 1.  I saw that somewhere.
Anyhow Bowers confirms that when in the youtube footage he says that he didn’t know whether Car 3 (the dirty 1961-62 chevvy with out of state plates & political stickers) parked or whether it left the area koz he said that he couldn’t see Elm St beyond the TSBD.  This suggests that 2 was closed at that time.

If u think about it, if he wasnt sure whether Car3 had left then how can he be sure that Car1 & Car2 had left earlier.
Car1 & Car2 would have disappeared behind the TSBD same as Car3, all 3 cars could have been parked behind the TSBD (behind from Bowers' view, in front from everyone else's view).
In any case Elm St extn itself is outside the carpark, so merely driving into Elm St extn qualifies as "leaving".

Entry/exit 2 must have been closed for some reason, either temporarily koz of JFK, or praps semi-permanently koz of the roadworks on Houston.
So, all of the cars going in & out of ABCDEFG on Fri 22Nov1963 had to use Elm, ie entry/exit  No1 in my pix.
So, was there a sniper behind the paling fence, i don’t think so,
not if he/she wanted to drive away with a rifle,
& not if he/she wanted to drive away without a rifle.

Ok here's the plan. We dont fire from a hiding place, we fire from where we can be easily seen. No-one will suspect that.
We dont run away, we simply drive or walk towards the cops & trouble. No-one will suspect that.

 

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

We might as well celebrate my finding of another aerial pix by having another look at the silliness of Hoffman's tosser & tossee.
Look at how far the tosser had to run to get to the tossee (pick one of the 2 stars).
Look at how far the tossee had to walk to get to a Cabinet.  Why didn't he dismantle the rifle near a car?
The gawkers & cops on the triple underpass would not see a thing koz the tosser & tossee knew that they would be watching JFK & Co passing under. Smart.
Sitzman, standing high on the pedestal, would have seen & heard the tosser firing over the fence.

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

Holland & Lane i think near Cabinet No1.


Spot the snipers.