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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Hoffman couldn't hear, White didn't hear, Murphy did hear.
« Reply #48 on: June 10, 2023, 12:00:36 AM »
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I don't derive anything from it. Both are approximations that indicate a general area.

You don't expect an eye-witness to be 100% correct every time, right?

Thanks, that explains a lot.

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #49 on: June 10, 2023, 12:04:28 AM »
Thanks, that explains a lot.

JohnhM

Explains what?

Offline Marjan Rynkiewicz

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Re: Hoffman couldn't hear, White didn't hear, Murphy did hear.
« Reply #50 on: June 10, 2023, 12:56:36 AM »
Hoffman Also Appears To Indicate That His Alleged Fence Shooter Was Left Handed: From Video Time 1.00
Notice that Hoffman seems to indicate [0:35] that he parked his Falcon next to his Lookout (his Lookout is where he is sitting on the concrete barricade). Whereas at other times Hoffman says he parked his Falcon on the onramp near the railbridge. But praps Hoffman had been misquoted here, praps he had actually gesticulated that he parked his bum (not Falcon) on the barricade.
Anyhow, Hoffman's Lookout was not visible to Bell, & therefor we karnt see in Bell's footage whether there was a car parked at or near  Hoffman's Lookout.  Hoffman's Lookout was obscured by the trees on the grassy knoll. The trees obscured Hoffman's Lookout plus at least 30 ft south of Hoffman's Lookout (see Bell frame below).

Also, notice that in this youtube Hoffman duznt say anything about the motorcade halting below him -- he says it passed below him [2:05]. Whereas at other times he had mentioned that the motorcade halted, or at least that Queen Mary halted (& turned its signals off). But praps Hoffman considered that passing includes halting – which it kind of duz.

At [1:40]. Hoffman regurgitates his silly story re a shooter throwing a rifle to a railroad worker who takes the rifle apart & puts it in a toolbox. The shooter & the railroad worker would have been seen by about 14 guys standing about 30 ft to 100 ft away on the triple underpass. Hoffman duznt mention the 14 guys.
Hoffman saw the shooter standing in the shade of the trees near the far end of the paling fence, all obscured by parked cars – but Hoffman did not see the 14 guys standing much closer to Hoffman, in the bright sunshine.
And Hoffman saw a puff of smoke (a shot), even tho the puff would have been going downish below the level of the top of the fence, & it would have been going away from Hoffman (towards JFK), & the puff would have been in shade.

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Offline Marjan Rynkiewicz

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Re: Hoffman couldn't hear, White didn't hear, Murphy did hear.
« Reply #51 on: June 10, 2023, 03:48:19 AM »
Another view.

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Re: Hoffman couldn't hear, White didn't hear, Murphy did hear.
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Offline Paul J Cummings

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« Reply #53 on: June 11, 2023, 09:20:17 PM »
Ed Hoffman is left-handed. He's just demonstrating what he saw not that the shooter was a lefty.

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Re: Hoffman couldn't hear, White didn't hear, Murphy did hear.
« Reply #54 on: June 12, 2023, 10:56:49 AM »
Ed Hoffman is left-handed. He's just demonstrating what he saw not that the shooter was a lefty.
It doesn't matter if Hoffman is left or right handed, or even if he is ambidextrous.
If "he's just demonstrating what he saw" then he is clearly demonstrating visually to the Camera for all to see, the actions of a left hand trigger pulling Shooter. Fact!  :)


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« Reply #55 on: June 12, 2023, 12:11:53 PM »
It becomes a "fact" that a left handed Hoffman demonstrating to a TV camera what he saw means the shooter was left-handed. Great logic.

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