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Offline Alan J. Ford

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« Reply #120 on: August 20, 2021, 09:00:11 PM »
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Still batting .000 eh, Mr. Mytton, total failure trying to produce any actual, credible evidence at all in the wrongly-accused's own voice about that phantom bus & cab ride. A month later into my simple challenge posed to you, and the best you got is to continue to sidestep the question and cower away from it altogether. You can't do it, Can you?  There's a reason for that.

Making matters even worse, you actually believe Mr. Craig (Roger) refutes my 12:48PM timeline...my, my, my...let's take his testimony into account rather than your wishful thinking ---->

Mr. BELIN - Fourteen or 15 minutes?
Mr. CRAIG - Yes.
Mr. BELIN - Was this, you mean, after the shooting?
Mr. CRAIG - After the---from the time I heard the first shot.
Mr. BELIN - All right. Your heard someone whistle?
Mr. CRAIG - Yes. So I turned and--uh-saw a man start to run down the hill on the north side of Elm Street, running down toward Elm Street.
Mr. BELIN - And, about where was he with relation to the School Book Depository Building?
Mr. CRAIG - Uh--directly across that little side street that runs in front of it, He was on the south side of it.
Mr. BELIN - And he was on the south side of what would be an extension of Elm Street, if Elm Street didn't curve down into the underpass?
Mr. CRAIG - Eight; right,
Mr. BELIN - And where was he with relation to the west side of the School Book Depository Building?
Mr. CRAIG - Right by the--uh--well, actually, directly in line with the west corner--the southwest corner,
Mr. BELIN - He was directly in line with the southwest corner of the building?
Mr. CRAIG - Yes,
Mr. BELIN - And he was on the south curve of that street that runs right in front of the building there?
Mr. CRAIG - Yes,
Mr. BELIN - And he started to run toward Elm Street as it curves under the underpass?
Mr. CRAIG - Yes ; directly down the grassy portion of the park,
Mr. BELIN - All right. And then what did you see happen?
Mr. CRAIG - I saw a light-colored station wagon, driving real slow, coming west on Elm Street from Houston. Uh-- actually, it was nearly in line with him. And the driver was leaning to his right looking up the hill at the man running down.
Mr. BELIN - Uh-huh.
Mr. CRAIG - And the station wagon stopped almost directly across from me. And--uh--the man continued down the hill and got in the station wagon. And I attempted to cross the street. I wanted to talk to both of them. But the---uh--traffic was so heavy I couldn't get across the street. And--uh--they were gone before I could---


Now, Do you care to explain to the rest of us how Mr. Craig (Roger) refutes my 12:48 timeline given the fourteen or 15 minutes (his words, not mine) post assassination observation of that light coloured station wagon driving real slow (his words, not mine) while also attempting to pull up alongside the running gentleman Mr. Craig is describing, who, has come from the southwest corner adjacent to the TSBD from a side street (Elm Street extension), through a park-bench area, finally onto the top of a hill, and then running down the incline without tumbling head over heels, suggesting he wasn't sprinting...   

then continued to run further down south Elm, towards Mr. Craig's position (Mr. Craig's words not mine), while he and Officer Lewis stood looking for a ricochet bullet way down south Elm, his words, not mine. Go ahead, Mr. Mytton, set the stage for us how Mr. Craig's testimony refutes a 12:48PM timeline. Perhaps you will fair much better w/this challenge than the previous month long one you are still struggling with.   


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Offline Alan J. Ford

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« Reply #121 on: August 20, 2021, 09:17:56 PM »
While Mr. Mytton reinvents the sprinting prowess of the wrongly-accused as the original Flash, and removes all other busy, slow moving traffic blocking that light coloured Rambler station wagon on lower Elm Street that afternoon akin to Moses' actions at the Red Sea, let's get back to Mr. Mentesana's home video footage, where he records the wrongly-accused still in Dealey Plaza looooong after the fictitious script about a phantom public transportation "escape". 

Brief Recap:

*Special agent Bookhout reveals to us that in spite of the hastily contrived script mired in the stench of horse manure about a bus, a bus-transfer yada, yada yada,, the wrongly-accused actually stood outside with his supervisor for, quote, 5-10 minutes, unquote. 

*Mr. Mentesana's home video footage records this.

It's him. 
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« Reply #122 on: August 22, 2021, 05:24:27 AM »
Still batting .000 eh, Mr. Mytton,

Hang on, you still haven't reached first base, heck, you're still on the starting blocks waiting for the starters gun because before your attempts to derail this thread with loaded questions and thus delay the inevitable, I and another member asked you a very simple question "Why invent a bus trip to nowhere?" this is the very foundation of why we are here and more than a month later you still have no answers.
And btw as I previously alluded to, admitting the public bus ride and the cab ride instead of Oswald's prearranged getaway vehicle would somewhat go towards supporting your claims of Oswald's innocence but I guess you can't put brains in a statue.

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Offline Alan J. Ford

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« Reply #123 on: August 23, 2021, 07:24:07 PM »
"Why invent a bus trip to nowhere?" this is the very foundation of why we are here and more than a month later you still have no answers.

On the contrary, Mr. Mytton, you just choose to ignore my reply to the question. Now, once more, on the chance you dare to choose to read it, are able to comprehend it and honest enough to admit their mistake while introducing even more horse manure (a phantom cab ride) ---->

The reason why the bus trip to nowhere was invented was for the following reason: to plant  manufactured "evidence", a bus-transfer to imply the wrongly-accused left Dealey Plaza via public-transportation.

What part of that answer don't you understand, Mr. Mytton?

Now, Over to you, IF you dare...When if ever are you going to produce any actual, credible evidence in the wrongly-accused's own voice about that phantom bus & cab ride? Cannot do it, Mr. Mytton, Can you? There's a reason for that.

He didn't say it...they said he did this; he did that; he said this, he said that...so, once again, all you got is manufactured "evidence" planted well after that intense physical altercation at the Texas Theatre; and what is being claimed he said and he did well after drawing his last breath. Anybody can Frame someone after they've drawn their last breath.

What part of that don't you understand, Mr. Mytton? Do you have any actual, credible evidence in the wrongly-accused's own voice about that phantom bus ride?

Cannot hear you? Cat got your tongue? Or it's simply a matter of you rather choosing to cower as far away from this simple question as you continue to do so ? That's your prerogative, but genuine evidence matters to some researchers, not manufactured "evidence" planted to embellish a hastily contrived script mired in the stench of horse manure.

The wrongly-accused did not shoot anybody. Anybody.






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« Reply #124 on: August 24, 2021, 12:07:22 AM »

The reason why the bus trip to nowhere was invented was for the following reason: to plant  manufactured "evidence", a bus-transfer to imply the wrongly-accused left Dealey Plaza via public-transportation.


So you believe that Oswald didn't use public transport to leave Dallas, interesting, then the only other alternatives that I see are that Oswald walked/jogged/ran/sprinted which is all highly unlikely or Oswald drove himself and without owning a car that's pretty difficult, or the point I raised which you haven't yet had the courage to confront because you must realize it's devastating significance, is that Oswald used an accomplice's getaway car to get himself and this unidentified accomplice away from the scene of the crime, an accomplice who just dumped Oswald off at the Texas Theatre, are you sure you want to pursue this particular narrative because it flies in the face of your claim that Oswald was wrongly accused?

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« Reply #125 on: August 24, 2021, 09:34:13 PM »
"to get away from the scene of the crime".  LOL.

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« Reply #126 on: August 25, 2021, 02:26:15 AM »
"The wrongly-accused did not shoot anybody. Anybody."

What goes around comes around: Oswald got what he deserved --- to be ambushed and gunned down in cold blood. What goes around comes around: Oswald got what he deserved --- to be ambushed and gunned down in cold blood. What goes around comes around: Oswald got what he deserved --- to be ambushed and gunned down in cold blood...

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The Wrongly Accused
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Clay Shaw
Clay Bertrand
David Ferrie
E. Howard Hunt
George Joannides
James Files
Chauncey Holt
Marita Lorenz
David Atlee Phillips
William Harvey
David Sanchez Morales
Frank Sturgis
Clint Murchison, Dallas oil magnate
H. L. Hunt, Dallas oil magnate
Syd Richardson
William Greer
Roy Kellerman
Gerald Behn
Floyd Boring
Emory Roberts
John Roselli
Charles Nicoletti
Lucien Sarti
Louis Posada Carriles
Felix Rodriguez
Orlando Bosch
Freddy Lugo
Rip Roberson
Charles Harrelson
Lucien Conein
General Ed Landsdale
Mac Wallace
Carlos Marcello
Santo Trafficante
Sam Giancana
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« Reply #127 on: August 25, 2021, 07:02:10 PM »
"to get away from the scene of the crime".  LOL.

 Good one!, Mr. Iacoletti, good one!

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« Reply #127 on: August 25, 2021, 07:02:10 PM »