Users Currently Browsing This Topic:
0 Members

Author Topic: ?  (Read 50324 times)

Online Mitch Todd

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 922
Re: ?
« Reply #208 on: November 17, 2021, 12:56:10 AM »
Advertisement
Anyone can see that the transfer stub was not torn but rather cut. Nice try though.
Of course it's cut. Just as McWatters said transfer cutting was the norm.

Mr. McWATTERS - Yes, sir; I designate the time of the we have one general transfer point. In other words, Lamar Street is what we call our general transfer point in which all transfers are cut within the quarter of the hour in which you are supposed to be there.
In other words, if you was to arrive there at, say, 12:50 or in that vicinity, you always give the passenger the 15 minutes, in other words, within the hour of the transfer. In other words, is the way they have you to cut your transfers across your cutter.
In other words, it is just a little thing that you raise up and down and you can adjust them, and right here is a book of them in which you can see the time. It is one, in other words, 2:15, 3:30, and 4:45, and we set them in other words, if you wanted at 1:15, 1 o'clock would be across this direction. If you wanted it 1:15 you would cut across this direction or if you wanted it 1:45 you would cut it in this direction. In other words, 1:15, - :30 and - :45. In other words, the 15 minutes is always given at the time, at the general transfer point.
Representative FORD - It is 10:25 now. How would you cut it right now?
Mr. McWATTERS - At 10:25.
Representative FORD - Why don't you cut one?
Mr. McWATTERS - I have a regular cutter, you see; let's see if he can get something that would--in other words, 10:25, I will just cut it, in other words, cut across there, and cut it, in other words, at 10:30, in other words, it would show at 10:30.

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: ?
« Reply #208 on: November 17, 2021, 12:56:10 AM »


Offline Rick Plant

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8177
Re: ?
« Reply #209 on: November 18, 2021, 03:29:38 AM »
The bus transfer was not in Pristine condition and was folded, and the shirt pockets on Oswald's shirt show absolutely no sign of being torn or ripped, they are literally pristine!







JohnM

The bus transfer isn't exactly in "pristine condition" but still looks to be in excellent condition all around.   

Offline Alan J. Ford

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 475
    • RFK's Final Journey
Re: ?
« Reply #210 on: November 26, 2021, 05:40:40 PM »
Contrary to the hastily contrived script mired in the stench of horse manure to Frame an innocent party, the wrongly-accused was not the man on Mr. McWatters' bus, let alone asking for a bus transfer ---->

Mr. McWATTERS. I told them to the best of my knowledge, I said the man that I picked out was the same height, about the same height, weight and description. But as far as actually saying that is the man I couldn’t–
Mr. BALL. You couldn’t do it?
Mr. McWATTERS. I wouldn’t do it and I wouldn’t do it now.
(2 H 279
)

In every instance in this case, the "evidence" framing the wrongly-accused is manufactured.  A genuine investigation would have left no stone unturned, beginning with the following Freudian slip ---->

Mr. Truly. So I went back downstairs with Chief Lumpkin.
Mr. BELIN. When you got on the sixth floor, did you happen to go over to the southeast corner of the sixth floor at about that time or not?
Mr. TRULY. No, sir; I sure didn't.
Mr. BELIN. When did you get over to the southeast corner of the sixth floor?
Mr. TRULY. That I can't answer. I don't remember when I went over there. It was sometime before I learned that they had found either the rifle or the spent shell cases.


On more time for the record, M. Truly ---->

It was sometime before I learned that they had found either the rifle or the spent shell cases.[/i]

Last time, Mr. Truly ---->

It was sometime before I learned that they had found either the rifle or the spent shell cases.[/i]

With ample time to stage a sniper's nest: plant the shell casings; and rifle to Frame an innocent party.  What did they promise you, Mr. Truly, thirty pieces of shiny silver?

“Few men have virtue to withstand the highest bidder.
” ― George Washington






« Last Edit: November 26, 2021, 05:42:40 PM by Alan J. Ford »

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: ?
« Reply #210 on: November 26, 2021, 05:40:40 PM »


Offline Alan J. Ford

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 475
    • RFK's Final Journey
Re: ?
« Reply #211 on: November 26, 2021, 06:18:45 PM »
The lying rooftop tandem (Roy Truly & Marrion Baker) amid the hastily contrived script mired in the stench of horse manure--to Frame an innocent party-- share their fictitious exploits on an otherwise locked roof, claiming they were up there for 10 minutes. Yet in the following affidavit I discovered, we find access to the roof was locked from the inside on the afternoon of the shooting ---->

COUNTY OF DALLAS
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
SUPPLEMENTARY INVESTIGATION REPORT
Name of Compainant
Assassination Of President Kennedy
Offense
John Wiseman, Deputy Sheriff, Dallas County Sheriff's Department.
Date Nov 23, 1963

I was standing in front of the Sheriff's Office at 505 Main Street, Dallas when the President passed and the car went around the corner and a few more cars had passed when I heard a shot and I knew something had happened. I ran at once to the corner of Houston and Main Street and out into the street when the second and third shots ran out. I ran on across Houston Street, then across the park to where a policeman was having trouble with his motorcycle and I saw a man laying on the grass. This man laying on the grass said the shots came from the building and he was pointing to the old Sexton Building. I talked to Marilyn Sitzman, 202 S. Lancaster who said her boss, Abraham Zaprutes, RI 86071, had movies of the shooting. She said the shots came from that way and she pointed at the old Sexton Building. I ran at once to the Sexton Building and went in. I askes some woman how many doors lead out of the building and she said 4. I left the building and found some DPD patrolmen and we came back to the building. I ran up the stairs and the patrolman started trying to get more help to search the building. I went up the stairs to the 7th floor and started up into the attic and noticed that the door to the roof was locked on the inside with a gate type hook latch. I stopped and started back down the stairs.

Liars R Us, proud sponsors of imaginary "evidence", "magic bullets", manufactured bus transfer passes, etc. The lies get even worse...brb.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2021, 06:19:37 PM by Alan J. Ford »

Offline Alan J. Ford

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 475
    • RFK's Final Journey
Re: ?
« Reply #212 on: November 26, 2021, 06:38:46 PM »
The hastily contrived script mired in the stench of horse manure outs itself again and again throughout this Frame up of an innocent party. Here's yet another glaring example: note the lying rooftop tandem claimed they were up on that otherwise locked from the inside roof for 10 minutes, their words, not mine, yet Bake spills the actual truth ---->

Mr. Baker. As we descended, somewhere around--we were still talking and I was still looking over the building.
Mr. Belin. As the elevator was moving?
Mr. Baker. Yes, sir; downward.
Mr. Belin. All right.
Mr. Baker. The next thing that I noticed was Inspector Sawyer, he was on one of those floors there, he is a police inspector.
Mr. Dulles. City of Dallas Police?
Mr. Baker. Yes, sir.


The problem here for the lying rooftop tandem is they cannot be in two places all at once. Note how brief Inspector Sawyer's sojourn into the building lasted ---->

Mr. BELIN. To go up and look around and come down?
Mr. SAWPER. To look around on the floor. How long it took to go up, it
couldn’t have been over 3 minutes at the most from the time We left, got
up and back down.
Mr. BELIN. Then that would put it around no sooner than 12:37, if you heard
the call at 12 :34?
Mr. SAWYER. Yes, sir.


So, not only can the lying rooftop tandem magically teleport themselves through an otherwise locked roof from the inside, now even from atop their imaginary rooftop exploits Baker can actually encounter Inspector Sawyer who has already entered the building and left before his and Roy Truly's descent ?

The problem with their hastily contrived script mired in the stench of horse manure is its full of lies.



« Last Edit: November 26, 2021, 06:39:48 PM by Alan J. Ford »

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: ?
« Reply #212 on: November 26, 2021, 06:38:46 PM »


Offline Alan J. Ford

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 475
    • RFK's Final Journey
Re: ?
« Reply #213 on: November 26, 2021, 07:00:21 PM »
The wrongly accused did not board Mr. McWatters' bus, let alone ask for a bus transfer.

Mr. McWATTERS. I told them to the best of my knowledge, I said the man that I picked out was the same height, about the same height, weight and description. But as far as actually saying that is the man I couldn’t–
Mr. BALL. You couldn’t do it?
Mr. McWATTERS. I wouldn’t do it and I wouldn’t do it now.
(2 H 279 )


As Mr. Mentesana's home movie video demonstrates the wrongly-accused was still in Dealey Plaza, nowhere near the unfolding events at 10th & Patton. The dispatch time of Mr. Warnock's Fire Station 3's big red engine @ 1:02PM--his words, not mine confirms that.  The wrongly-accused is donning the same shirt in Mr. Mentesana's home movie; at the unfolding events at the Texas Theatre; and, once again during his midnight presser. It's not a coincidence that he wore the shirt in the same manner in all three locations/instances. It confirms it's him.

The wrongly-accused did Not shoot anybody. Anybody.

back next week the Good Lord willing. Best to all to remain safe, healthy and free of any lingering variants of COVID-19...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/new-variant-arrives-in-europe-sets-off-global-fears-of-restrictions/ar-AAR9VJk?ocid=msedgntp

« Last Edit: November 26, 2021, 07:02:37 PM by Alan J. Ford »

Offline Richard Smith

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5316
Re: ?
« Reply #214 on: November 26, 2021, 07:03:10 PM »
Contrary to the hastily contrived script mired in the stench of horse manure to Frame an innocent party, the wrongly-accused was not the man on Mr. McWatters' bus, let alone asking for a bus transfer ---->

Mr. McWATTERS. I told them to the best of my knowledge, I said the man that I picked out was the same height, about the same height, weight and description. But as far as actually saying that is the man I couldn’t–
Mr. BALL. You couldn’t do it?
Mr. McWATTERS. I wouldn’t do it and I wouldn’t do it now.
(2 H 279
)

In every instance in this case, the "evidence" framing the wrongly-accused is manufactured.  A genuine investigation would have left no stone unturned, beginning with the following Freudian slip ---->

Mr. Truly. So I went back downstairs with Chief Lumpkin.
Mr. BELIN. When you got on the sixth floor, did you happen to go over to the southeast corner of the sixth floor at about that time or not?
Mr. TRULY. No, sir; I sure didn't.
Mr. BELIN. When did you get over to the southeast corner of the sixth floor?
Mr. TRULY. That I can't answer. I don't remember when I went over there. It was sometime before I learned that they had found either the rifle or the spent shell cases.


On more time for the record, M. Truly ---->

It was sometime before I learned that they had found either the rifle or the spent shell cases.[/i]

Last time, Mr. Truly ---->

It was sometime before I learned that they had found either the rifle or the spent shell cases.[/i]

With ample time to stage a sniper's nest: plant the shell casings; and rifle to Frame an innocent party.  What did they promise you, Mr. Truly, thirty pieces of shiny silver?

“Few men have virtue to withstand the highest bidder.
” ― George Washington

What nonsense.  I thought the fantasy conspirators were all powerful in trying to frame Oswald.  Capable of all manner of feats. And for some unspecified reason left to our imagination, CTers want us to believe these powerful conspirators needed to put Oswald on the bus to nowhere.  But they couldn't get the bus driver of that bus to confirm Oswald's presence!  HA HA HA.  And you have entirely mischaracterized McWatters testimony.  He merely states that he could not identify Oswald as the man on his bus.  Not that he wasn't on the bus.   Can you understand the difference?  He is saying that Oswald was similar in appearance but he just couldn't confirm it was Oswald.  Not that it wasn't Oswald or that he excluded Oswals as that person as you falsely suggest.

Offline Alan J. Ford

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 475
    • RFK's Final Journey
Re: ?
« Reply #215 on: November 26, 2021, 07:19:21 PM »
"He merely states that he could not identify Oswald as the man on his bus.  Not that he wasn't on the bus." -- Mr. Smith

 Oh, dear

:D

At least You got the first part right, quote, he could not identify Oswald as the man on his bus. Okay, now show those of us reading along where Mr. McWatters states anywhere within his sworn testimony that the wrongly-accused was on the bus. Cannot do it, Can you? There's a reason for that.

Have to go folks. Semper Fi baby Semper Fi (Always Faithful to God, Country, and Corps) <---- The wrongly-accused did Not shoot anybody. Anybody.

 
« Last Edit: November 26, 2021, 07:21:04 PM by Alan J. Ford »

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: ?
« Reply #215 on: November 26, 2021, 07:19:21 PM »